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VIDEO: Isaaq community meets with Farah Aideed in Mogadishu
August 11, 2012 · 54 Comments
Members of the Isaaq clan met and greeted the leader of the United Somali Congress (USC), General Mohamed Farah Aideed (Aidid), in the Somali capital in 1992.
This is a historical gathering between the supporters of the Somali National Movement (SNM) and USC — the two rebel groups who toppled Dictator Mohamed Siad Bare in 1991.
SNM played a key role in the formation of Somaliland following the collapse of Somalia’s central government.
USC was predominantly from the Hawiye clan, who inhabit most regions in southern Somalia, while SNM had its support among the Isaaq populous.
August 11, 2012
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Are you trying to save the legacy of Aideed, the man who left Mustahil, Ethiopia with weapons to come to Mogadishu and overthrow the government but goes wrong by destroying the whole country, starving civilians, starting a genocide, waa sheeko cajiib ah, but what can people expect from this BS “media establishment
you must be a dar00d because only dar00d scum like you hate such a good man
He was insane use to eat soap.
If it wasn't for Farah Aidid and A. Tuur none of these die hard tribalistic people would be here today. More amazingly is the fact that they not even grateful for those who rescued them. All they after is habar protest and isolation like a single mother.
I salute Farah Aided as the grandson of A. Tuur. Somalia will remain united under a free democratic government.
More Isaaq population live in Mogadishu than Garadag so I am not sure what Silaanyo is on about.
shut up you dog somaliland will never rejoin zoomaliya you faqash hargeisa is gonna be much more better than hamar so stop the hype and cry in your bedroom fool
Ahn Veterans A.Tuur and Farah Aidid were great heros and is Veteran Silaanyo.
Cheers.
These guys were the real SNM and as you can hear them, none of them believe/believed in anything called "Somaliland". "Wax kala goaya ma jiiro".
Thank you SNM, our original goal got hijacked by two crazy subclans and it has led them to 21 years of isolation, starvation, in limbo—today they have no friends or recognition. What a great disaster.
kkkkkkkkkk kayse ma afwaynaa ku dhalay. you are the most deluded troll ever. may Allah have mercy on your hideous soul.
kayse,completely right,SNM purpose was to liberate hargiesa/burco put later hijack by two sub-clan with no long term vision.
kayse and madar please use one name not 100 different names.
aideed was a hero and i salute him for doing to the darod what their regime did to us isaaqis but ten times worse
obviously this d-block clan needs to get nuked out of the face of earth
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk abdiwahab you are my brother. you and i think so much alike. zoomalia will be cevilized when the haw!yes get rid of the dar00d scum. look at every bad thing in zoomalia and tell me when a dar00d qudhun isnt involved
@Kaboon poor little thing why don't you claim another country
And leave us SOMALIAN Alone ?
It's not our fault if you feel ashame by your
origin or country.
Next time a White boy Ask you where you from, do
Us a favour and say Kenya, Ethiopia or Pluto.
you must be disappointed by your ugly dar00d people, they only bring bad news
Kaboon…if u want to condemn Darood, that's not fair. Just pick their bad leadership
criminals only and let live the good Darood People. If you reflect the post Independence
historical events of Somalia and Somaliland, you will see a handful blood suckers
warlords were and are still responsible for the devastations and destructions of the
Union between Somaliland and Somalia..anything else becomes dark history so to
speak.
Cheers.
In fact, during the most toughest years of Silaanyo's Chairman of the S.N.M, Ahn Gen.Farah
Aidid who's was the then Ambassador of the Afwayne Regime to India, was persuaded by Veteran Silaanyo and that's how Gen. Aidid became the then weak USC Chairman. Ahn A.Tuur was then
the Vice-Chairman and wasn't as powerful as Chairman Silaanyo. Let's face the facts, it was indeed
in Silaanyo's 6year period that both the S.N.M/USC became strong to make the biting victories
against the Afwayne Regime. Let us face the facts, the top credit goes to Veteran Silaanyo who
found the right USC Veteran Gen'Aidid to work together almost ousting the Afwayne Regime when
after 6year hellish years Veteran Silaanyo in a retiring bid handedover the struggle to Ahn A.Tuur. Undeniably Ahn A.Tuur and GenAidid did the finishing lines which was almost there few milestones after the Silaanyo expeditious 6year struggle of profound successes. Make no mistake Veteran Silaanyo was the brainwork to direct both the S.N.M/USC which basically established biting hard the
ill-faithed Afwayne Regime. History of Veteran Silaanyo should not be distorted.
Cheers.
Mr. Cheers, you got it wrong and your distortions of the SNM history is breathtaking and I can only correct you by noting the following points:
1. Abdirahman-Tuur was never Silanyo's Vice Chairman, as a matter of fact he had the foreign portfolio for the SNM and had his office in the UK, whichis where he met and pursuaded General Aideed to join the opposition to Siyad Barre.
2. Silanyo's Vice Chairman for two years was General Aideed's rival with in the Hawiya clan and one of the founders of the USC Ali-Wardhiigley.
3. It is true that Silanyo was the helm of the SNM as a Chairman for a period of six years but all the SNM know that it was during those years that divisions and cracks appeared among the SNM ranks and he strived to undermine commanders like Kosar and Adan-shine and had a hand in their assassinations.
4. Aideed only came to Ethiopia when Abdirahman-tuur became the leader of the SNM and it was the first time Aideed met Mengistu when Abdirahman-tuur requested and arranged the meeting so that two could meet.
5. It was only then when a unified opposition to Siyad Barre was formed and it was only then when Mengistu allowed weapons and logistics to be given to the USC to fight against Siyad Bare.
5. So get your facts right and give Abdirahman-Tuur the credit that he deserved which is unlike you what all the Hawiya and USC veterrans do and don't be belinded by your partisanship towards Silanyo.
A.Xandule
You got it all wrong. My statements are correct, and yours wrong. We shouldn't argue buddy.
Veteran Silaanyo is still alive and now the President of Somaliland Republic. To keep the
records straight, I would apprecite if more bloggers who know the real facts to say which one
of us, is wrong?
Cheers.
Warlord Silaanyo could not achieve anything when he was chairman of the SNM, he was busy making Dhiigshiil rich with Isaaq donated money for the refugees and SNM. Everyone knows he also used to take only his habar fighters to foreign hospitals for medical care. The guy is qabiliste ila xaad. Every cell in him spells tribalism and I am not sure who even elected him.
When he couldn't achieve anything, SNM and Ethiopia threw him out and to this day Ethiopia does not like him.
Tuur came and finished the job in matter of days and it was Tuur that armed Aidid.
The problem was that in the north the goal got hijacked by two habroo who are scared of other Somalis and declared illegal isolation which is killing the north until this day.
If Ali Mahdi did not attack Aidid, today we would have unified Somalia.
If Tuur was here today, he would be in Mogadishu running from presidency while Silanyo is locking himself in Morgan's house because he has no confidence to deal with bigger groups in Somalia's politics. He rather manipulate the four habroo in Hargeisa.
He knows he has no chance.
Adigu waad waalantahay oo Dahabshiil iyo Silaanyo ayaad iska dhex aragtay ee debateka ka bax.
I have no clue why is@@qs jump up and down when They hear The name Aidid.i am habergidir sacad”reer jalaf”,i remember when my uncle came to mogadishu very vividly we supported all of us everyone thought The war will be short as soon as barre/Afweyne leaves.
That did not happen because for one reason Aidid my uncle refuse any advice from haw*ye clan They told him “Dar@@d is major clan barre is gone it is time to lead he did not listen”.
1993 U.S forces came to mogadishu he confronted Them ten Thousand haw*ye dead including a lot of my freinds,They manage to unbush nineteen marines.now U.S is in mogadishu using A.U forces.
1994-1996 he started war between haw*ye clans hundred fifty Thousand dead and he never won The war.
Eventually cismaan caato who is also sacad clan told Aidid you led us in defestation and distruction. Than confrontation started between Them self’s,one afrternoon 15:00hrs one of cisman caato militia snipper took position and shot Aidid in heart one bullet.
Today as a habergidir we have nothing no Presidence/PM, no real functioning state. even IC They don’t trust us becuase of Aidid.so This man he was villain to us.
You are confused and don't understand the heroic historical USC struggles and victories of your
Uncle Ahn Veteran Gen.Aidid. What you don't understand is that, without consulting Ahn Gen.Aidid,
an underground Manifesto group Mafia headed by Ali Mahdi hi-jacked and overthrew the USC powers.
Nothing was ever since good and proper to this day and space. As a result of this, The S.N.M
joint policies between the two victorious struggle freedom fighters were shattered and caused a
disintegration which to this day and space had no chance to recover from the damages caused by the
coup de etat of the Manifesto Mafia group. Unfortunately Somalia but Somaliland also lost a great
USC hero, who if things worked well for the USC, probably all the defestation and destruction you
mentioned would never happen and probably Somaliland and Somalia would be in different better situations.
Cheers.
You telling me The history of U.S.C rebel,i guess i am in The wrong planet.
Ali mahdi never oppose Aidid The whole confrontation was let’s lead The country and Aidid said i want to continue The war which ultimately he Piad heavy price his life.
My Friend you are totally wrong. If we were to pin point the moment Somalia descended in failed state. It was the point cali Mahdi unilaterally called himself the president of the Country-the was the death blow to Somalia. Barre was toppled by the SNM+USC+SPM. Mahdi and The manifesto group did no fighting at all. Yet they decided they would make decisions for the country with consulted thoses who kicked out the Barre regime-Incredible.
If I could go back in time I could kill Cali Mahdi and Manifesto before they did this. This little event bought forth the tragedy that is Somalia- 21 + years. Yet people have the nerve to talk about Aidiid AUN
Now we are going deeper into This tragic event in somalis history.
Let me tell you something my freind ali mahdi and manifesto They did have The any guns at That time.Aidid he wasn’t good politician nor real military man,we haw*ye were blind to see That when we found out it was too late already The damage was done.
Aidid started The fight without any legitimate reason even ali mahdi group told him to lead put refused.Aidid kill more haw*ye Than anyone else That is why haw*ye are in bad shape today.
Who do Think barre regime kick out? if you Think habergidir done it your completely wrong. abgal and tribes who opposed barre/afweyne regime took The full brunt of The force.
My conclusion is if you Think Aidid is hero,you should dig out Aidid his grave and buried in hargiesa/burco so you guys could go his grave as a pilgrimage.
We haw*ye Aidid cost us a lot of suffering in terms of lives and financially.
Aideed was the military leader of the USC FACT, USC+SPM and others defeated Barres forces out of Southern Somalia. At the time Barres forces were the 3rd strongest in Africa. So please tell me who Aideed was a military failure.
If its was for Cali Mahdi been supported by is abgal mooryans. A power sharing post Barre government would have been setup uniting the country.
This is what the current Somaliland president came up with;
http://wardheernews.com/Articles_2010/October/Ahm…
Aideed was put in an imposible position. After spending years fighting the Barre dictatorship to back back to mogadhisho is someone who didn't event take part in the battle calling himself president.
Cali Mahdi, his supporters and manifesto group are responsible for everything that happened after that.
Don't bother listening to Sabriye. I wouldn't be suprised if "being reer Jalaf" and Aideed is my uncle is just a lie. That supposed account of Gen Aideed failures is so far off anything I have ever heard, and I have spent plenty of time around Sa'ad people who love and dislike Aideed.
O’ali.
keep arguin will not bring anything,if Aidid was good military man why he did not win The war?.good milaitary person usually win The war indecisive way or seek alternative solution Aidid did not do That he behave like MAD MAX.
I was There when The fight started abgal and some other somali tribes went The frontline becuase habergidir did not have The numbers put supporting behind.now you tell me who done most of The fight.
What imposible mission,Aidid had everything in his disposable put fail us as a Haw@ye fail The whole somali race.Ali Mahdi never use artilery his own Haw@ye put Aidid done it indiscriminalely shelling his own Haw@ye clan without any mercy There is proof of videos.
Ali Mahdi/manifesto They were toothless unarm.so,how They could cause problem? it’s just scapegoat.
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mahad.
You Think and wonder why This person attacking Aidid may be he is not sacad,let me tell you something i am sacad(reer jalaf)we haw@ye are not tribelist like other big somali tribes we criticize anyone who done to us any harm.
People are so foolish. The SNM declared Somaliland independent not because of clans or the politicians of SNM who hijacked it.
Rather it was the people of Somaliland who called for independence, while they were meeting in Burao, widespread people protests erupted throughout Hargeisa and Bura, it was the people calling for an independent Somaliland, the SNM then decided to relent to the people's wishes and afterwards they disbanded for a civillian government something unheard of in Africa, the winning movement disbanding in favour of a civillian government.
So if people want to blame anyone for Somaliland's independence blame the people, as they are the deciders and guardians of Somaliland!
As Iraqi and libyan love to say ( Life was better under Saddam/Khadafi ).
I believe life was much more good to everybody under Syad Barre.
No Starvation and more éducation and discipline.
He wasn't à good man but no one CAN deny that his somalia was
Going toward prospérity rather than chaos.
If it wasn't for this dumb ass unprepared Rebel group, i would be in my country
With all my relative Alive !
It seems that it's easier to be à Rebel group in Africa than to actually rule
The country. Look at the mess libya and Irak became !
To destroy and complain is much more easier
To be in charge ! What this SNM group brought
Us ? Except destruction and a divided nation !
SNM Stop the attempted Genocide of its people almost a 3rd of the somali population by a fascist regime.
I sure live was just peachy for you under Barre, but for people in the north it was a living hell, in fact the land mines that were placed by the regime are still killing people today. Its funny because most southerns thing the civil war started in 1990.
MR. Ayanle…Nay, you are as much confused as the same mentality of Sabriye Culusow.
Who knew Gen. Said Barre before the unnecessary bloodless coup de etat of 1969s, brought
up by the Civilian Govts corrupted bad governance, and you know what, even during 1960s-1969s,
there were always Manifesto groups of the same types that put the Civilian powers under the dangerous unknown Military dictator and his nomadic unknown MR in power. The same Manifesto Mafia from both sides of-like their counterparts MJ, Abgal again took after the USC power in 1991
and the Somalia stance is upto this current under the bad manipulations of manifesto mentality
warlordism. The same bad policies still rule to do the shots.
Cheers.
i hope your relatives are dead. you dar00d scumbag. i support 100% what the haw!ye people done to your scum people. a good dar00d is a dead dar00d
Hello its Ramadan SubhanAllah whats wrong with you?
Too much haters no wonder there is no success in Somalia n Somaliland.
When the dust settles on the Somali Civil war inshallah soon. There has to be an independent commission setup to looking into and prosecute the surviving members of the Manifesto group and Cali Mahdi and the Warlords that came after them.
viva isaaq and hawiye down faqash
darling meesha dameera isku rorsanahaye viva'dada mooye yey isla ka jiriin kkkkk
Cheers.
The funny thing about the above is that Muqdisho was emptying since 1980s. All Darod people automatically use to use their connections to send their children and wives to USA and Europe, Isaaq were the last beginning from 1988 when Darods and their slaves made Isaaq targets for many pogroms which led to the Jazeera massacre and many others.
So by 1990, the majority of the city was made of all Hawiye people and single old men who had nothing to loose assuming that they will be considered old and respected rather than being killed.
For young folks
This is a summary of the historical background which finally led the destruction of what was once called SOMALI REPUBLIC:
1. The cracks of what was once called Somali Republic began in 1961 when the referendum of the constitution was rigged by the Southerns. (Ref. Adanyaval and Walaweyn necknames).
2. These cracks began to get worst when President A.A. Sharmarke was killed in Lasanod and Military coup led by Siad Barre took over the power, dissolved the democratically elected government and threw the so-called constitution out of he window.
3. The cracks which began in 1991 started to fall apart when a clannish motivated group led by late Abdullahi Yusuf Yey attempted coup d'etat against the Siad Barre regime which resulted a power struggle between Majertein and Marehan sub-clans.
4. The Northern Somalis who were not happy from the beginning how the union of the entities went wrong, amazingly saw two sub-clans from Southern Somalis fighting each other over the ruling of the Somali Republic on the expense of the other Somalis which ultimately resulted the formation of SNM.
5. The complete destruction of what was called Somali Republic occurred when Siad Barre regime was ousted with devastated civil war in 26 Jan.1991 and a group called Manifesto unilaterally chose Ali Mahdi as a President without consultation or knowledge of the other armed Movements including Gen. Aideed and ignored completely the agreements between USC,SNM and SPM. I still remember Ali Mahdi's first speech at his nomination ceremony in which he said, THE USC WHICH BEGAN ITS STRUGGLE FROM CENTRAL REGIONS 3 MONTHS AGO HAS TAKEN OVER THE POWER OF THE COUNTRY. In fact, it was the moment when the clock turned back to 26 June 1960.
6. After having seen another unknown man from Mogadishu proclaimed himself as the President of the Somali Republic, the Northern Somalis gathered in Burao in which they concluded and decided the reinstatement of the Republic of Somaliland.
This is a true story from a eyewitness.
correction:The cracks which began in 1960 … not 1991
warlord Aideed was an animal his trablism is what made so many somalis beg for food and shelters and those who suffered the most was his own clan he even divided the Hawiya people. those warlords ruined our strong nation over clan power domination. I understand what SNM was fighting for (thier own rights as they claim) but hawiya were fooled to wage unnecessary war against the D-blocks.
Hello, why Isaaq hate Siad Barre and Abdullahi Yusuf but love Aideed.
1. Aideed as "Wiil Reer Baidoa ah" said, left Ethiopia, and USC was funded initially by Ethiopia, but it subsequently destroyed the country, so in fact Somalia was destroyed by USC with funding from USC.
2. Aideed assinated many USC Generals and even started fighting his own clan, so why was he good, and what did he do to Daroood people if he did that to his own folks?
3. Why do you hate Siad Barre when this guy killed many people, started genocide and destroyed the country, he is the father of Warlords?
That is very hypocritical.
funding from Ethiopia*
US hawiye and isaaqs instead of constantly fighting each other should unite again like the good old days USC/SNM and teach these daroods once and for all a lesson they would never forget because every problem in Somalia/Land if you look close enough they have got their filthy hands init.
you have been eating too much grass lately (khat) both USC and SNM only destroyed thier cities and displaced their people. if you look at it Burco, Hargeisa and Mogadishu were the cities affected the most by the civil war. apart from Kismayo which was recaptured by Gen. Mohamed Warsame Darwish and Gen. Morgan and half of Galkacayo the rest of D:blocks cities did not even see civil war. so what if they overthrew Siad Barre, he ruled the country nearly 30 years and he'd have left anyway a few years later he was died and didn't worth destroying the whole country. Goshhh you have the same mental capability of a bottle of soda the problem in Somalia is everyone's fault not just one particular tribe. we all learnt our lessons how about we work together as Somalis and for the sake of future generation.
As for Kayse, the last man who objected Somaliland didnt claim that he belonged to SNM. He refused to be associated with SNM . So where did u get the notion that he was real SNM ? . ( By the way i doubted he was even Isaaq because of his accent). However, there was only one man who is starving here for inteligence and being isolated with colossal ignorance and that is you.. What a dispicable swine!
Somaliland people are realists. Common sense-the common sense of the common people tells us that " establishment of Somaliland" was magic policy that fixed so many things that went wrong through decades. It made our people more politically aware, more productive and competitive. It was an idea that removed once prevasive self defeatist culture and dependency which plagued or people so long. God ! it was the best thing that could happen to us. Any Somalilander who is suggesting otherwise has psychological obstacle he/she needs to overcome. Where is better place than this?
GENERAL IDEED HERO OF SOMALIA/ HE IS THE ONLY SOMALI TO DEFEAT AMERICANS WHICH SHIER AIM IS TO HAND OVER SOMALIA TO ABDIRAZAK HAJI HUSSEIN WHO ADVISED USA BUSH PARTY TO KILL IDEED AND HIS TRIBE.IN ORDER MAGIRTEEN TO RULE SOMALIA .THAT IS WHY THE AMERICAN INVADERS CAME .after all general was a hero somali
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
What a HYPOCRITE they are, those people who say Aideed is a hero n Siad is a dictator. Too me they both killers.
Ahn veterans A.Tuur and Farah Aidid were great heros and so is Veteran Silaanyo.
Somaliland and Somalia have since come up a long way forward and entered into other
trends. Let's not waste energies on the freedom movements but instead deal with the current
status quo's of the two entities…Somaliland and Somalia.
Cheers.