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Op-Ed: The UN Somalia Support Center in Kenya Advocates War between somaliland and Puntland
August 23, 2011 · 65 Comments
(Nairobi) The UN Somalia Support Centre in Nairobi attempts to establish conflict between Somaliland and Puntland as the UN organizations operated in Puntland tries to instigate a border conflict between the two administrations by taking advantage of the disputed regions of Sool and the Eastern parts of Sanaag which are territorially attached to Somaliland but ethnically belong to Puntland. Knowing the sensitivity of the disputed areas, the UN offices in Garowe with permission of their officers in Nairobi usually paid visits to areas across the border without the consent of the administration in Hargeisa.
The current tensions in Taleh district of Sool is the result of the recent visit by the United Nations with the Putland admistration in Garowe to Taleh followed by the ambush of the Somaliland officials from Lasanod by the presidential security from Garowe which had caused death and kidnapping of the Somaliland delegates that are now prosecuted in Garowe under the nose of the UN. That visit by the UN officials from Garowe and the followed incident, had not only created a fresh hostility between the two administrations, but fired a new animosity and bloodshed between the two brethren clans of Taleh District.
Now, UNICEF plans to ignite a similar disaster in eastern districts of Sanaag region by hauling aid from Garowe as a pretext for urgent Humanitarian aid to drought affected areas in the region with a mere notification of their intentions to the administration in Hargeisa. The Somaliland administration has not yet come in terms with the recent bold attack and denigration of its officials by the Garowe administration that are still in their hands despite asking immediate release of the held captives.
As a matter of fact, the UNICEF logistics depots are located in Mombasa and Djibouti and it would be quite easy for UNICEF to set up a relief operation centre in the Regional HQ, Erigavo, to distribute aid to various drought affected village in all Sanaag districts. In this centre, the staff could be delegated from both offices in Hargeisa and Bossaso as a relief operation with additional temporary local staff who hail from supply destinations. Thus, the locals (people and transport) of various districts could equally benefit this operation if UNICEF intention is a conflict free. The logical scenario is to negotiate with the officials of Somaliland administration to allow shipments to came from Bossaso Port but under the management of UNICEF Hargeisa who also may conduct some shipments from Berbera.
It is unfortunate, after 20 years, that all UN and other organizations that operate in Somaliland to concentrate their offices in Hargeisa with all benefits (both employment and projects) going unbalanced to the general public. And that might have resulted some ill-feeling to certain parts of the population. The local staff in the organizations have a role to that inequalities of resources distribution to the Somaliland regions. The front desk local staffs dictate to their senior officers (non-locals) to annual planning of the organizations programme while they make their jobs and other benefits secure and that is one of the reasons that UN organization and others kept locked in Hargeisa. The other side that worth to blame is the successive Somaliland Authorities over the years that had dealt with the organizations with beggar’s attitude and failed to disperse the organizations over the regions accordingly where the security at least permits.
Finally, insecurity or the notion of hostility in their areas of operation is always favorable to all UN and other agencies as funds, per deems and hostile allowance to field and HQ staffs and well as programmes increase and sustain to long period. Therefore, let the Somaliland and Puntland administrations not create to that favorable situation for the UN Somalia Support Centre in Nairobi and their respective field offices. I would rather suggest to sort out peacefully those issues under the humanitarian activities such critical time and kept aside the other geopolitical issues. We are now as Somalilanders helping the needy and starving Southern and how come we could not be able provide a logical solution to the distribution of aid to those areas in Somaliland.
M Arrale
Arrale3@yahoo.com
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Puntland is responsible for its natural resources in SSC and has the right to safeguard its sovereignty from Ethiopian stooge SNM. Sool,Sanaag & Cayn iz technically part of Puntland. No one has the right or ability to interfere with Puntland regions. Puntland is moving forward in greater strides to the dismay of its enemies.
Sir,
It's the idiot like you that the writer tried to explain right from wrong. You see the UN agencies wants to make sure that all Somali speaking regions to be unstable and people like you they are using for their longevities in this region. Please, try to read the message the writer is passing to you instead of writing nonsense.
go home faqash darood
"… Puntland is moving forward in greater strides to the dismay of its enemies." Piracyland, bring it on. If you terrible, you will get it. Neither Sool, Sanaag, or cayn is part of Piracyland. We will defend our territorial integrity and citizens vigorously from infiltraters, pirate infested, human traffickers, babies body part sellers, land-grabbing mafia like you. You are not getting an inch of our land.
SSC is not for sale for ethiopian stooge SNM who destroyed somalia. You will never see SSC even in ur dreams. do as favour & defend your fake territorial aka the triangle Hargeisa, Burco, Berbera
No doubt, just wait and see.
looool see wuz? puntland has just sentenced four dhulbahants traitors to 10 years behind bars, hehehh
go home Faqash darood!
SSC is part of sovereign Somali Republic and it belongs to no other than Dhulbahante. Any one who wants war is welcome to have war with Dhulbahante. Remember Kashaale and we will teach Puntlan a good lessons in the near future.
Dhulbahante are better off where they are. Why don't you take your buulcaws and take a heck if you are not happy. Yaa hal alfitna wa tafaruq!
go home Faqash darood!
You cheap you sold your land to Ethiopia don't try mine.
First of all Somalis have always been war, fighting for petty reasons and qabiil and all we need to do is sort out our issues peacefully with negotiations, involving our clan leaders, having mutual agreements and wisely without following our emotion or being blinded by qabiil.
Secondly STOP offending or insulting each-other and control your anger. This goes to Somalilanders too. When somebody is angry the shaytan plays with them like a toy thus leading to many unpleasant actions; bad words in this case
The UN does not care about peace for any Somali, be it in Somaliland, Puntland or in South Somalia and they would simply laugh at our suffering and eventually we would be known for our stupidity. How many countries had war and solved their differences
Finally, SSC belongs to DULBAHANTE and their territory is in Somaliland so we have nothing to do with Puntland. And NO, this is not about ethnically they belong here and there and blah blah, how many countries share ethnicity and clans with their neighbors. I believe there is a sub sub clan of Habar Younis who are in Xamar in which I regard them as xamaries more like issaq xamaries (erm that sounds funny thou)
Our goverment need to address SSC members. Why are they fighting? Do they really believe in puntland because of being Harti? Are they not being treated fairly? What is it that they feel and think? This is down to our president and I believe he should meet them and their leaders officially in Las Anod and find a way they can cater for their needs and wants and demands and involve them more. They are not just rebels
The UN should not heat the situation that already exist between Somaliland and Puntland.
May Allah bring understandings to Somalis Ameen
SSC is Somalia and Somalia is SSC.
Somalia fulanimo ayaad ugu gabanaysaa. Ethiopia haddii ay cidi stooge u tahay dib isugu fiirsada. Who brought Ethioipia to kill thousands of Somalis in Mogadishu? Certainly, not SNM.
Keep crying your eyes out.
We don't respect Ethiopians.
They don't care as long as you stay in your place and don't cross into their country.
ur scare of ethiopians cause dhulbahante is minority in Ethiopia Somaliland Puntland Somalia everywhere he goes lil old dhulbahante is minority same gabooye. So chill out lil old minority.
May be we should let our women lead us, thanks Amal for your nice comments whats the madness? we are fighting even the last days of Ramadan, qabiil will take us nowhere and only midnimo and understanding will shield us from destruction and bloodshed. I consider myself to have come from a minority clan and therefore i remain neutral having said that i think the writer is correct for saying UN agencies are out there to cause problems, In the case of SSC i think the president is doing his best to sit with them and see if they want come to the negotiating table and give fighting, Dhulbahante and Isaaq has always been close and so i am sure some kind of understanding is possible. Puntland should not interfere with Sool and Sanag, they should be a refrundum and if the people of Sool and Sanag want to be part of Puntland then so be it, but i honestly doubt it since 60% of the inhabitants in Sool and Sanag do not trust Puntland.
In the grand scheme of things it really does not matter, but what minority clan are you from? Minority clans I know are the Tuumal, Midgan, Bantus of the South. In all honesty this is more of educating myself.
Thanx walalo, and you are right qabiil will not take us nowhere. I don't know when we will understand that enough is enough and that we are the same people after all. Look at Zambia they have estimated 72 tripe and each tripe have their own language (erm literally like 72 languages) and we cant even live together yet we are like the same people and those clan names are just father names. Trust me the dulbahante and issaq are mixed like madness so they should be able to live in peace together and understand each-other, puntland can't just claim them in the name of darood.
Brother we are backward people, the whole world moved on despite their differences and many countries have economical development and peace but we are stuck, glad Somaliland is doing its best at least. Somalis need to come out from their little box of my clan my clan and look into the future what they can do now that their children can enjoy later.
Anways brother are you from somaliland or Somalia? like reer waqooye or reer xamar :)
I don't want to have anything to due with Issaq, it is easy as that, I will continue the armed rebel as long as SNM troops are existing in Sool, Go back to dusty Burco. You guys dont want Walaweyn/Somalia we dont want you.
looooool your wer a somalilander last tym, soz wuz happen sxb? heheh you just remind me of those dhulbahants
bk home who constantly change sides from puntland to somaliland.
They stopped paying me.
Las Anod Boy = Somali Hero = Borama Girl = Puntland
Talk about split personality kkkk
“Sool,Sanaag & Cayn iz technically part of Puntland” What are you smoking? Technically, Puntland is some nonsense with borders drawn with Abdullahi Yusuf’s crayons, no one takes its claims to SSC seriously.
I love how just because there is some thugs in Las Anod that somehow undermines Somaliland’s control over ALL of Sool, Sanaag and Cayn. And this claim that everyone in these regions is anti-Somaliland and feel occupied is a load of b.s. My family is from Sanaag and if anyone tried to tell them that is not Somaliland but occupied territory they’d laugh in your face!
Triangle my foot! We control the entire country, but if it makes you feel better you can keep up the lie that we only reside in Hargeisa, Berbera and “dusty Burco”.
@ Amal and the others
You should all please go check your facts, because we people here a lie long enough they start to believe its actually true. For example
1. Sanaag with its regional capital has the largest Issaq population after the other cities (Hargeisa, burco etc). Dhulbhante and Warsengali also live there, but the Isaaq are the majority. My family is from Ceerigabo ( Habar Younis)
2. The only area Puntland likes to talk about is Bari or las quory; which is mostly warsengali. That is why no one see any fighting in Ceerigabo or the SSC militia talking about it. The locals are tight, but if push came to shove. The majority Isaaq have the final say.
3. In Sool, its the opposite. The Dhulbhante are the majority and the Isaaq are minority. The Las Anod is like Ceerigabo, but for the Dhulbhante and everyone respects that. In Caynabo (second largest city after Las Anod), the Issaq are about 55-60% of the population, but again the locals are tight. That is why you never hear of fighting in Caynabo.
4. Cayn does not exist and it in fact a part of the Togdheer region of Somaliland. Simply look at any old Somalia map and you will see the truth regardless of politics. Abdullahi Yusuf, the moral man that he is, realized that Togdheer, with its regional capital of Burco, would be a difficult place to sell the idea of Dhulbhante land, since the Isaaq were the majority. So he cleverly decided to make up a new region called CAYN and said Buhoodle is the new regional capital.
5. Now let us dissect Puntland's land claims.
a) No Majeertan actually live in Sool or Sanaag.
b) Somaliland always existed even as far back as 1888.
c) Puntland was created in 1998 prior to that it was united with the south and referred to as Italian Somaliland with NO claims over anything.
What is puntland's argument?
The Dhulbhante and Warsengali are Darood and so their land belongs to us! Okay, well the Marehan live in the deep south and there are also Darood living in Ethiopia, why isn't Puntland claiming those lands as well? They are also Darood right!
The Truth:
1. Abdullahi Yusuf was a power hungry opportunist during the Barre days and he hasn't changed till this day.
2. Puntland was created for the same reason as the CAYN region was, to sabotage Somaliland's chances of seceding. i.e. false land claims, regional strife etc.
Finally, Puntland has always portrayed itself as the defender of Somali unity and yet surprisingly enough they ARE ALSO CLAIMING LAND BASED ON TRIBALISM. Wouldn't make more sense to say Somaliland as a whole shouldn't secede rather than preaching the same message that has destroyed the nation?
In conclusion, I believe the Somaliland government should stop tip toeing around this whole Puntland situation. We continue to respect them for the sake of our Dhulbhante and Warsengali brothers, but we are repaid with attacks, killings and assassinations of our citizens. I think we should hold a meeting with the Puntland elders to discuss the situation and the possible repercussions. Is Faroole the only one that's crazy? Are they all crazy? Do they really want to go to war and exchange bullets or could just exchange women (inter-marry) and be done with it :)
Laid out in spectacular fashion as usual, brother! I'm worried people might start believing the lies of these land claims too. I'll give Puntland one thing, they have a fantastic PR team who are great at spreading the seeds of doubt far and wide!
Warya is knowledgeable about the history and the Somaliland's territory and its population's settlments. I like how he dissected the map and spread the population on their true area of residency. I think this will silence lots of people who claims that Somaliland is Hargeisa, Berbera, and Burco which is exclusively and solely inhibitated by Issaq but we are also the majority in all other areas except Sool.
Warya
First you hiding the truth walaal, would you except habar jacalo to joint with Puntland? I dont think you willl accept that, so why would dhulbahante joint isaaq administration. let me tell you little bit Dhulbahante, Warsangali Majareteen they all came from Harti Father, so why you dividing them. Walaal Harti is the same tribe as Isaaq tribes okay learn that first.
Secondly you don't know the region maybe you grow up in the west, Sool belongs to dhulbahante and that is very body knows, Sanaag majority belongs to Warsangali and Dhulbahante. Somaliland can't claim they control beyond carigaavo. Sanaag control by Warsangali tribe. Dhulbahante and Warsangali they see Somaliland a Isaaq region, can't claim land that is not belong to you dont force people that don't want you, walaal face the fact and learn before you say some thing.
Issaq are my reer Abti
Majetein are my fellow clansmen
what one should I choose?
If I join Issaq I will get nationhood!
If I join Majetein I will rule Somalia!
If you join Somailand you will get nationhood, peace and development. If you join Majeertania you could potentially rule Somalia for WHILE. Then the Hawiya will eventually wake up from their deep sleep and take charge of their own destiny. When this happens they will remind you that they are NOT your reer Abti :)
You shouldn't also forget that the Marehan (Said Barre's clan) also believe like the Majeertan that Somalia belongs to them. There is too much lust for power, money and disregard for life for our nation to EVER rise again.
Warya Abti
What if Walaweyn unites and beats us all?:)
You are rigth unpatriotic/Tribalistic corrupt people are leading Somalia,- agents of foreign powers who are thinking about power while their people are dieing of hunger! When will nationalism return to Somalia?
Somaliland sounds as a great place to live in the future:)
sxb, the puntland politicans are dirty, but Majetein are as people very patriotic and friendly, visit Garowe and you will feel the brothehood from your fellow somalis, what I like about Majetein is that they don't care about the past unlike other bitter people they have moved on…. poor majetein women sold their gold in the 1950s so the liberation struggle aganist the italian colonists could be finanied masallah! SYL the nationalists who liberated Southern Somalia was for the most Majetein.
I think that the great majority of somalis are good people who wants peace, government and unity but we have the worst and most un-patriotic leaders in this world, they have sold us. But as people we can control our destiny…. by wadanimo and hard work.
You absolutely correct brother there are definitely many good Majeertan and I am not preaching widespread tribal hate. However, since the old unity of Somalia patriotism has died and transformed into something disgusting. After the north and south United, for many, the job of securing Somalia's future was done. Now, every tribe started thinking how they could get ahead. This translated into a deep drive by some groups to establish themselves as the ROMAN GODS of Somalia. They did this by trying their utmost to place one of their own clansmen in a position of power – president, VP, head of military, Treasury, head of intelligence etc. And once this goal was achieved, presto, it was then time to bring in brothers, wives, brother's in-laws, as well as other potentially powerful allies. The third step to this process was to identify potential threats to the status-quo and marginalize them. This was the recipe that destroyed our nation and not much has changed. A few groups and individuals believing and raising their children to believe that an entire nation is theirs! These aren't my words, but the words of Somalia historians.
Now take these words and apply them to today's Somalia.
1. Why did Farmajo lose his job when the majority of the locals loved him? The TFG and speaker of the house found his popularity to be a potential threat and so fired him.
2. Why is it that we went from warlords, to UIC, to Ethiopian invasion, to Hezbollah Islam vs Al shabab vs Ahul sunnah wa jammah, and now potentially to back to warlord-ism? Competing interests!
3. Why is it that whenever the prime minister of the TFG is Majeertan, puntland is all happy and plays nice, but they aren't included all their Somali unity talk goes out the window? Fake patriotism!
4. Why is Somaliland so keen to separate and how is their tragic history any different than that of the Rwandan peoples? It's not, but for them separation is their only hope of a truly lasting peace with the south in turmoil for 20 plus years.
I could go on and on, but there is no point! I am believe in Somali and Muslim unity, but I am also a realist. We are a backward peoples who neither understand ethnic nor Islamic brotherhood. For example, name one Muslim society that's been at war with itself for over 20 years? Not even the Afghans are as hostile to each other as we are! That's why I believe Somalia's division is necessary for our people to survive.
It is sad how those anti Somaliland people have a one-sided brain. Some body tries to educate them about facts that may cause greater destructions to their people and the environment, but they do not read these lines and instead pour out their hate for Somaliland; a country that is trying to wade off the enemies (presumably the Sheytaans that flew from outside the whole region or those got possessed while roaming on seas for robbery). Either ways, Puntlanders are thieves hungry for more robbery. The West is guiding their own sea territory from them, and now they looking on Somaliland’s rapid and successful development and progress with such envy.
By the way there is no such thing as Ceyn, it is Sool, Sanaag, and Togdheer. Both Sool and Sanaag are very beautiful districts of Somaliland. The people who live there are most nomads and care about their environment and people so much, but few thugs that has been brainwashed by the See thieves of Puntland and influencing them to stir things, as they cannot take advantage of stable and more together communities of these regions.
Somalilanders beware of the hungry wolves, they will snatch anything including babies.
Preach, sister!
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The ethiopians stooge aka SNM militias can bark all they lyk on th net cuz Puntland doesnt & will never recognise a colony white border, a fake british border which was meant to divide somalis & separate two brotherhoods. dhulbahante & majerteen are inseparable not only we share daroods links but we are Pan-Somalism. technically Puntland iz at war with the illegal incursion in Laascaanood by the Ethiopians stooge SNM militias.
Well Said! Awal state is next!
You guys and your women need help you talk too much and do very little. Puntlanders are people in action and no African can Stop them. Watch out they came and they will kidnap your palace.
We talk a lot because that's what PEACEFUL people do! Discuss, debate, argue, agree, disagree, vote etc.
By the way, how is the killing in Galkayo and Bossaso working out for you guys? I have read that you guys are still going strong even in the holy month of Ramadan. Surprisingly, the pirating of the coast of Puntland has also risen over this past month.
Perhaps you guys should TALK and discuss your issues more often. I have heard things like PEACEFUL SOLUTIONS come out of talks.
@ Warya
Not only your comments are my favorites in this whole website but I find them both very informative and BEAUTIFUL. You have explained the reality of this disputed areas. However, the SSC I was referring to is Sool since sanaag doesn't come in the argument anymore and cayn doesn't exist and SSC became a group name, and title that's why people say SSC dulbahante . This Sool belongs to dulbahante therefore that issue is between Somaliland and its harti memebers i.e. dulbhante and wasangali and NOT puntland. Therefore, the Somaliland government should be sensitive to these voices of dulbahante, acknowledge and address them, I mean what is it they feel and want? erm we don't want anything to do with issaqs is not a good reason. The issaqs and the dulbahante have been mixing for very long time and there needs to be UNDERSTANDINGS between the two and somaliland as whole.
Puntland's argument 'because they are darood' is NOT a valid one and they can ask that the AU. How may countries share tribes with their neighbors. And like you said the darood live in many Somali regions south Somalia, Puntland, Somaliland, Ethiopia so it's weird they are only claiming Somaliland territory.
I believe the Somaliland government is tip toeing with puntlalnd and that is to avoid escalating the problem and the UN should not make it worse. It is IMPORTANT for the two regions to live peacefully side by side and trade in business. But if Puntland continues provoking Somaliland, breaking rules and the peace and causing more problems, kidnapping or killing government officials then Somaliland Government need to take ACTIONS and address Puntland otherwise no agreements and peace will be reached and breaches will continue. Fighting and gun is the last thing we need anywhere
That's my opinion
Can somebody explain to me what is Walawayn …are they hawiye? is it an offensive name or their real name like reer xamar, I mean like Somali Southerners.
Amal
Walaweyn is a small town in Southern Somalia, in the 1960s there was a election in which the southern somalis claimed that the village walaweyn had more votes than, Issaq, Dulbahante, Gadabursi, Isse, Warsengeli, voters together!!!!! aka the nothern voters from british somaliland. From that point the name " Walaweyn" was used by the northern somalis as a example of the injustice and discrimnation they faced. We the nothern somalis use the name " Walaweyn" about every body living South of Sool. Walaweyn is a offensive name for southern somalis. Walaweyn is meaning " criminial" " stupid"
It was the Somali constitutional referendum, in 1961.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_constitutiona…
the people of Somaliland voted "NO" but it was passed because the southerners they made electoral fraud in cities like Walaweyn…..
"Walaweyn is meaning " criminial" " stupid"
That is not true Walaweyn is just the name of a city, but that name represent that they are people who cheat and deceive and you can't trust them, and that's why we call them Walaweyn.
Thank you guys for your clarification and enlightening me :)
I simply didn't want to use that term and offend without meaning to. Whether is a place in south or a group of people if it is link with criminal and stupid or represent people who cheat and deceive then I guess it is something to avoid using
I like u, can I be your friend….
Walawayn is a "derogatory" word which means that southern are dishonest and back stabbers and they are known to falsely swear a lot in the name of God.
Awdal, SSC, Togdheer, Gabily etc are all part of Somaliland. Before and now. Northerners and civilized reer waqooyi should unite
Look most Somaliland people are aware of what punt land is there for? I'm sure its not lost on any of us. However, is it really necessary to entertain them if they posses a security issue and if it does then we have to take appropriate action? Regardless of what people think. We have been talking peace and nationhood for 20 years if others don't respect that then it time take action? If UN wish to forward Aid from Puntland to Somaliland regions then take the IDP in Somaliland to Puntland and be done with. Kick them out. Kicked Somalia people out as country Why we have IDP while UN wants to intefer with our affairs. Take their IDPs out just like Kenya closed their borders just close ours. Demand better treatment or no cooperation. Simple you will not be taken seriously if you entertain games.
@amal walaweeyn is something the habar jeeclo and habar younis say to offend the hawieya claiming they are walaweyn…whilst they actually know very little about people in the south the reality is walaweyn is a little raihanwein family mixed with theses other jareer that live on the jubba river….and actually has nothing to do with haweya…..usually people like me from hargeisa dont say walaweyn…reer burco love to say walaweyn
hey that's not true, it's not only us who use it I heard many different people of northerners use that name and I was wondering if it meant to be offensive or just their name. I guess the name of that small family of rahanwayn with jareer (or maybe the name of their village or town) turn up to be an offensive name used by northerners.
It's true though many of us just use it without knowing anything about south or who is really walawayn and maybe they use that name more in burco since I think people in hargaisa are more calmer and very mixed of many different people God bless Hargaisa and Somaliland. Thank you for the information
The Center in Kenya advocating war between Somaliland and Puntland has succeeded in planting the seeds of doubt between the Somali people. Kikuyu run Kenya and Tigrey run Ethio. would like nothing more than to see the end game in Somalia becoming one of dispute, discourse, doubt and discontent between the clans. Kenya has 22+ tribes, Ethio. almost 100 tribes, yet they are functioning governments. Heck, Djibouti has 2 tribes and it is functioning just fine, thank you very much. While Somalia with ONE tribe but many clans is dysfunctional to the core.
@warya you seem to throw percentages around and since I am numbers guy, how do you base your percentages by clan in these small towns/cities? What census info. are you using.? When was the last census taken in the whole of Somalia? Brother I am just asking and not calling you out. So no need to get defensive about it. It is a matter of education.
Also, when my posts get too long the site asks me to split it up in two posts or more. But brother Warya you wrote a whole article in ONE post. Are you the site administrator? B)
Peace to all.
kkkk far enough. All good questions! Firstly, there hasn't been a census in Somalia for sometime, but there are definitely other ways to get the facts.
1. Somali History books – For example – "Failed State by Abdullahi Dool" is a fair and good book to read
2. I read any and every newspaper sites as much as possible to get the WHOLE picture and not half truths.
– I read newspapers from borama, Hargeisa, Burco, Las Anod, Las Quory, Cayanabo, Garowe, Hiraan, and even Galgala. By reading what most of the medias are saying it becomes easy to avoid large degrees of Bias
3. I read what the non-Somali (white people) are saying about situation in Somalia – blogs, history etc.
4. I also read what the kenyans and Ethiopians are saying and their views on the situation in Somalia
5. I watch debates on youtube, lectures and conferences. i.e. chatham house, Samatar brothers etc.
6. Believe it or not most clan elder meetings are now also posted online. Ie. Youtube
7. There are many decent ex-somali politicians, engineers, and military commanders and I do run into them often. But when I do, I like to ask them questions to understand why this and that happened. I discuss with them what I have read and they more often than not are willing to clarify or add to what I have read.
8. Finally, I like to understand what the various tribal biases are and understand their root causes and background. It is a complete lie or is there some truth to this generalization.
Finally, I said before that caynabo (sool) region was 55-60% Isaaq, but after double checking its actually 75% (21/28 local districts) and the Dhulbhante 25% (7/28)
Reference: Dhulbhante elder speaking at the Widh-Widh peace treaty conference
- The man in the shades starts speaking at about 30 mins in. So fastforward!
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAUc3wyY_7c
I hope this helps and let me know what you think!
Waar waa cajaa'ib.
L'absence de dialogue franc ouvre la porte à des inondations confusion et d'incompréhension. Il est venu à mon attention récemment que la régions 5 politique est toujours considéré avec un sens aigu de paranoïa, idées fausses et à travers les lentilles de la tribu. La préoccupation consentement dans la recherche pour le message caché dans toutes les choses qui sont politiques et ne pas l'accepter à leur valeur nominale plus souvent que pas nous conduire à s'égarer de l'intention du message et le droit à un chemin de nulle part. Le facteur le plus influent dans la formulation de notre objectif politique est la tribu et dans plus d'un titre l'emporte sur tout autre facteur majeur dans le débat. J'ai Siad c'est dans mes écrits précédemment et le redis ici pour plus de clarté. J'ai un profond sentiment de gratitude pour la valeur du savoir traditionnel solution politique fondée qui est pertinent pour les questions à portée de main et peut être inclus.
Above translated in English: The lack of open dialogue opens the door to flood confusion and misunderstanding. It came to my attention recently that the five region politics is still regarded with a sense of paranoia and false ideas through the lens of the tribe. The concern in the research consent for the message hidden in all things that are political and not to accept it at face value more often than not lead us astray from the intent of the message and the right to a path anywhere. The most influential factor in the formulation of our policy objective is the tribe and in more ways than one prevails over any other major factor in the debate. I Siad it in my writings before and repeat here for clarity. I have a deep sense of appreciation for the value of traditional political solution that is relevant to the issues at hand and can be included
Somalilanders stop contributing something to this web site. Because the Administrator is not fair enough. I an very glad that he is not in a position to court me………….
All the above people claiming to be from Isaaq tribes are not. You can see how some are intent in continuing their mandate against Somaliland by making wild claims. What this will achieve is unknown? Since most don't realise Somaliland is a united nation and their policy isn't against the South Somalia people but rather for the progress of its people. Ethiopia are made up of largely Muslim population as well Eritrea and Kenya. I believe East African countries do have to work out their issues in view of the larger picture to date. Why isolate one another when we are able to work out amicable solutions that doesn't necessary violate each others rights. I for one would like to see more cooperation with the Ethiopian, Eritrea, Sudanese, Kenyan and Djibouti nations to form a workable solutions for the sake of the innocent people suffering as a result of old grudges. The global world is changing and so should our policies towards one another. A more democratic fair un-baise consensus on political reform and re-look at why only a few are rich whilst millions suffer is a good start.
Habarjeclo are not the decedents of Sheikh Isaxaaq they are from somewhere else and now they are serving Ethiopian mission and interest.
hahaha half of these comments of ethopia taking over somaliland is stupid….number one somaliland was absoloutly getting no lee way in the shape of real capital investment on their natural resources….all these western countries you boast about would not give you a penny and if they seen the opportunity would say you are too risky to invest in….only the chinese would invest and fulfill every single part of the agreement. Ethopia is a country we will have to deal with people…it needs us for security and logisical reasons just like we need it for political support and recognition. while some of you are thinking our resources have been sold to the chinese, the west could have invested in our resources for the last 20 years they know very well the situation in somaliland…..but they would rather provide you with aid and ngo's not engineers and contracts to move forward in life…..in us isaaq the habar jeeclo where the ones with the amhara mother…hopefully they cut us a good deal with the aunties
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Tolow, kan yaa afyaqaan?