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The partition of Somalia and the politics of destruction

December 28, 2011   ·   62 Comments

There have been some thought-provoking pieces recently on the balkanization or partitioning of Somalia. The best of these pieces, in my opinion, have been Professor Michael Weinstein’s “Kenya’s Premature Invasions of Southern Somalia Stalls Balkanization” published on Garowe Online and Abdishakur Jowhar’s “The End of Somalia: Scenario of Partition” published on Somalilandpress. Professor Weinstein’s piece is a methodical analysis of the realpolitik motivations underlying the efforts of Ethiopia and Kenya to establish statelets beholden to, and dependant upon, them within Somalia and the political trends within, and outside, Somalia supporting or opposed to such efforts. Mr. Jowhar’s piece, on the other hand, is the anguished and visceral cry of opposition to these efforts, and the Somali political actors that are, wittingly or unwittingly, supporting them, that can only come from a Somali patriot who feels the dismemberment of his country as deeply as wounds on his body.

This is an important topic that needs to be addressed seriously and both Professor Weinstein and Mr. Jowhar are to be commended for raising it in their inimitable ways. However, it is necessary to define our terms in order to bring clarity and transparency to the discussion or debate. In this context, we have to ask which “Somalia” is in imminent danger of being partitioned or balkanized? Professor Weinstein’s article is specifically concerned with the potential partition of south and central Somalia into fiefdoms and spheres of influence controlled by Kenya and Ethiopia respectively, thereby excluding Somaliland and Puntland from the central thrust of its discourse (in the interest of full disclosure, I should add that Professor Weinstein and I have exchanged correspondence on his piece). Mr. Jowhar’s piece also seems to have south and central Somalia as its principal focus, in view of its exposition of what it terms “state-lets” in that territory and its concentration upon Kenya, Ethiopia, IGAD and UNPOS as the external actors militating and scheming to effect partition.

The second term that needs to be examined and defined is “partition”. We all know that, in this context, partition means political division, however the fact is that the Somali people have been partitioned since the 1884/85 Berlin Conference at which the European Powers divided Africa between themselves. In the modern era, the Allied victory in World War II set the parameters of this division which has resulted in the partition of the Somali people between independent Djibouti, a resurgent Somaliland, the Somali state in Ethiopia (5th Province), the Northern Frontier District (NFD) of Kenya, and south/central Somalia, within which the autonomous region of Puntland has managed to avoid the anarchy and state collapse prevalent in the rest of the erstwhile UN Trust Territory administered by Italy. Thus, partition is not new to the Somali people; indeed it has been a feature of their political existence and reality since their first contact with European imperialism at the end of the 19th century. It’s not even new that it is Ethiopia and Kenya that are scheming to partition Somali people since both of these countries insisted upon sovereignty over some of their Somali neighbours in 1959 and 1962 respectively. In both instances, Britain acceded to the wishes of the Ethiopian and Kenyan governments, and granted Haile Selassie’s Ethiopia what is now termed the 5th Province in the first and Kenyatta’s Kenya the NFD in 1962, in both cases against the express wishes of the people of those regions and contrary to the promises made by Britain to them.

Since the “Somalia” which is the focus of this discussion is but one part of the territories occupied by the Somali people and which forms the residual rump of the erstwhile Somali Republic established in 1960 by the un-ratified union between ex-British Somaliland and the ex-UN Trust Territory, and since partition has formed the political reality of the Somali people since the late 19th century, we are forced to ask, why is the present prospect of the partition of south/central Somalia so noteworthy and different? Both Professor Weinstein and Mr. Shakur come to the same answer but through different routes. The danger, as Professor Weinstein sees it, is that “The Somali people would be deprived of a political community and their political self-determination.”, while Mr. Shakur sees Somalia reduced from nation to “a group of desperate wild tribes each entirely focused in a life and death struggle against the neighbouring tribe.” Thus, both writers see the dangers of the current potential partition of south/central Somalia in terms of the eradication of Somali nationalism and political self-determination.

Now we have reached the crux of the matter. As with all analysis of Somali politics, we have to address the issue of Somali nationalism and the fission-fusion paradox that defines its very nature and essence. It is not necessary to go into a lengthy analysis of Somali nationalism (which I have undertaken under separate cover), but suffice it to say that since their first experience of European colonialism, the Somali people have responded with nationalist, religious and cultural resistance. Modern Somali nationalism dating back to the end of World War II was characterised by its pan-Somali and irredentist focus with the goal of uniting all the Somali people in one state – the Greater Somalia vision that was endorsed and championed unsuccessfully by Aneurin Bevan (Deputy Leader of the British Labour Party) prior to his death in 1960. This dream of Greater Somalia developed in the heady days of anti-colonial nationalism and the agitation it spawned, marks the zenith of the fusion strand of Somali nationalist ethos. Indeed, the creation of the Somali Republic in 1960 through the ill-fated union of British Somaliland and Italian-administered Somalia was but the first step in the realisation of this dream.

Unfortunately, there was a nightmare lurking within the pregnant promises of the dream of Somali unity, and this evil first surfaced in the unequal and oppressive terms of union exacted by the leaders of Italian-administered Somalia from their less experienced and more naive brethren of British Somaliland. When the union constitution was put to them for ratification in 1961 in a national referendum, more than two thirds of the voting public in the ex-British Protectorate rejected it, while a similar majority in the ex-UN Trust Territory ratified it. Thus, did Somali nationalism and politics begin to swing from the fusion pole at one end of the spectrum towards the fission pole at the other. This manifestation of fission in Somali politics and nationalism reached its zenith during the final decade of the Siyad Barre dictatorship when political power became concentrated in the hands of only one sub-clan, with the inevitable result that the country fractured along clan lines and descended into the anarchic madness that continues to persist in south/central Somalia to this day.

The only part of the erstwhile Somali Republic that has managed to fashion a new model of politics, peaceful co-existence and underlying rationale for allegiance to a state across clan divisions is Somaliland, which has developed a functioning, democratic system of government rooted in local culture and traditions with a free and robust press. This system can be used as a useful and effective model by the people of south/central Somalia to establish a state, but it cannot be imposed upon them by any external actors, whether their intentions are benign or malign. The simple and inescapable fact is that the persistence of the fission tendency of Somali politics in south/central Somalia, and the attendant atomisation of society into vicious inter and intra-clan rivalries, is a legacy of the Siyad Barre dictatorship that has been co-opted and exacerbated by warlords, self-appointed ‘civil society leaders’, Islamist militias and Diaspora carpet-baggers in search of easy money and self aggrandisement. It is the ugly and venal tribalism of this politics, and its manipulations by external actors, that Mr. Jowhar decries so emphatically and eloquently, and which Professor Weinstein de-constructs so emphatically.

The fact that the people of south/central Somalia have reached the end of their patience with the anarchy that has blighted their lives for so long, and the self serving straw men masquerading as leaders that are maintaining it, is evidenced by the repeated, but unpublicised, missions of tribal leaders from this territory to Somaliland requesting its assistance in facilitating genuine, Somali-sponsored and Somali-driven, national reconciliation. Supporting and facilitating genuine, grass-root efforts at national reconciliation among its brothers to the south is a moral, religious, humanitarian and fraternal duty that Somaliland must and will discharge. It has always been the conviction of many, including this author, that national reconciliation in south/central Somalia can be best achieved with the active support, sponsorship and mediation of Somaliland. The proposals of successive governments in Somaliland to play such role have been repeatedly rebuffed by both the international community and the self-appointed and self-serving leaders of south/central Somalia, the very architects of its misery! Quelle surprise, as the French would say!

The fact remains, however, that the evil which grips south/central Somalia is not partition, nor is it the designs of Kenya and Ethiopia to carve out spheres of influence within this territory. Rather, it is the inability and unwillingness of the social, religious and political leadership of the people of this territory to voice a vision of politics beyond narrow clan allegiance and partisanship, i.e. to transcend the fission principle of Somali politics. Neither Kenya nor Ethiopia is evil in pursuing its national interest vis-à-vis the anarchy and violence across its borders – this is called diplomacy and foreign policy. It is up to the people of south/central Somalia to pursue their own enlightened self interest and develop a modus operandi for peaceful co-existence, representative government rooted in their own culture and effective institutions. Unfortunately, the long suffering people of this territory are afflicted by the twin, linked plagues of a venal and self-serving leadership and a disinterested international community which has delegated responsibility for them to the best harbinger of inertia known to man – a bloated and equally self-serving bureaucracy.

In conclusion, I cannot but agree with Professor Weinstein and Mr. Jowhar that partition of south/central Somalia into ‘spheres of influence’ between Ethiopia and Kenya, and that this process has not only commenced, but is already quite advanced. However, I believe that this fact is not the disease, but rather one symptom of an underlying malaise which is destroying this territory politically, economically and socially. The disease is a corrupted polity characterised by venal politics and the introverted, fissile nationalism that breeds and sustains it. The root causes of the threat and reality of partition lies within. I can only conclude with a co-opting a line from Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar “the fault dear Messrs Weinstein and Jowhar lies not in Kenya and Ethiopia but in ourselves”. Until the politics of destruction is eradicated from Somalia, its continued misery is assured as is the potential and danger of partition.

Ahmed M.I. Egal

Written: 26 December 2011

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Readers Comments (62)

  1. Kayse says:

    Great article Mr Egal and the partition of Somalia is good for Somaliland and the region. Those Somalis in Somalia would alienate each others unless intervened. The only way to intervene them is by balknizing them and each neighboring state taking a piece to govern, manage or shape.

    Somaliland should have Puntland and the south should be equally divided between Somaliland, Ethiopia and Kenya. That is the only hope for the Horn of Africa community before these violent race in the south infects the rest with their disease of violence.

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    • Abraham says:

      You are a comedian.

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      • Kayse says:

        I am been realistic sxb and today I see Kenya executing an idea I proposed like 5-6 years ago but of course for Ethiopia but the Ethiopian government is not strategist. I will not get too much into detail as it is and can be a very dangerous idea but I see Kenya trying to execute perhaps 10% of my vision in the south.

        Nonetheless, Somalilanders are very slow people. All they do is complain and expect everything handed to them on a silver plate. What is wrong with us sharing the Somalia cake with our neighbors since they refuse to resolve their differences and south Somalia is danger to us all (Somaliland, Kenya and Ethiopia)?

        You guys have to make up your mind, your either Somaliland and completely cut all ties with Southern Somalis including emotional attachments or you go join your brothers and share the dark times with them. Make up your mind…or forever be in limbo!

        Southern Somalis laugh at your lack of recognition, if we (neighbors) divide them why should you care?

        Balkanization of South Somalia is inevitable.

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  2. PuntlandGeezer says:

    @ ethiopian stooge aka kayse
    yep definitely agree with you some tho. first al shabaab is a massive threat to our way of live, to our beautiful somali culture & especially to ours somali woman. used to believe in somaliwayne but not anymore, it died out the day wen al shabaab engaged the somali troops stationed in Baidoa in 2006.
    i do support a fragile and divided somalia, WHY? cuz majority of southern somalis are different from the northerns somalis. the southerns ave been living decades of war & now under the extremely al shbaaab wahhabi islamic law, they ave change BIG TIME since 1991, they dnt speak af somali anymore, they speak in fluent arabic, the woman dnt were direh anymore but instead prefer to wear burqa & veil & the faarahs were the afghan clothes. somalia has become a dangers to itself, as well as to northern peaceful regions of puntland, somaliland & neighbouring countries.
    divided somalia into mini state within somalia will suit as all, puntland, somalilland, kenya, ethiopian etc.
    south central somalis should govern themselves into mini state without the interference of the regime in mogadishu, al shabaab, ahlu Sunna Waljama'a, kenya or ethiopian.

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  3. Kayse says:

    Hahahahahahah Piratelander walee you made me laugh, if they changed their clothe of choice does that mean pirateland is providing them with the veils, afghan garments thru all those ships your hijacking. Now you exposed yourself.

    Walahi wa iga qosliisay….thumbs up man first time you on the same page as me plus let me ask, is Pirateland happy to be under Hargeisa or do your prefer Nairobi or Addis Ababa?

    This is the new Lander-Ethio-Bantu treaty over the failed state that was once Somalia. Under these terms spearheaded by Kayse, if a "nation(s)" fail(s) to instate, form, establish or exercise any effective government within its territorial borders in a period of 20 years, it has legally lost all sovereignty, independence and UN recognition thus neighboring states have right to claim, shape or add to their country or countries as an integral part for the purpose of establishing long-lasting peace, stability and functioning government where the previous government of the country couldn't. Thus this will promote the best interest for the region. Under this treaty, The Kayse Protocol, Somalia is a good example, for 20 odd years it has failed to exercise any form of functioning government thus it has lost its Sovereignty.

    Sovereignty is the quality of having supreme, independent authority over a geographic area, such as a territory. Thus clearly Somalia does not have no authority over any geographical area apart from few blocks in Mogadishu with the help of AU troops (foreign) nor does the TFG operate as an independent authority…therefore Somalia (south) is open for all to redraw its border, its upto neighboring states whether they will impose an authority, take-over, or split the country.

    Peace

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  4. Jabuuti_Hanolaato says:

    Someone explain to me how the recognition of "Somaliland" would bring peace and prosperity to Somalia and the Horn of Africa region as claimed by the author and some far-fetched but equally delusional commentators? I do not subscribe to the notion of a recognized "Somaliland" ushering in a new dawn for the entire region.

    A more plausible scenario (to my dismay) is the balkanization of Somali lands can in principle bring stability and prosperity to the region absent of "Somaliland" as the only defacto and (future?) dejure state. If Somalis cannot coexist in one land, perhaps having separate entities enforces the belief of ones ability to run their lives as they see it fit. What this entails is the further carving of "Somaliland" between the clans that call it home today. I envision 4 or 5 new states within north Somalia as the best and lasting legacy amongst the clans of north Somalia-this eliminates the unintended consequences of blaming the "other" tribes when things inevitably go wrong in your newly formed state. What I have just outlined is practical,,ensures continuity and stability in the region.

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    • Somalilander4life says:

      Mr Jabuuti_Hanolaato

      First and foremost YOU ARE AN IDIOT WHO HAS SOMETHING AGAINST THE GREAT COUNTRY OF SOMALILAND. you are jelaous because dijoubti is a small insignificant country ruled by the france. i live in london and nobody has even heard of dijoubi. please stop crying. somaliland will be Recognised and there's nothing u can do about just hope we don't wipe your small tiny irrelvant country of the map.

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      • Jabuuti_Hanolaato says:

        What country? "Great" country? That is debatable but what country are you talking about? Phantom country, make-belief country, Disneyland country, I can accept all of that. True legitimate and UN member country? Nah, that aint gonna happen anytime soon.

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        • Xarago says:

          Jabuuti_Hanolaato, Walaal you are funny ask them what country are they talking about, are they dreaming.

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    • Abraham says:

      @Baking Oven hakululaato,

      According to your formula, the good Afar people will get their rightful homeland of Jabuuti and you guys will be knocking our door.

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      • amal says:

        Abraham,

        loool now you realised the true colour of the tiny baking oven in east africa, bravo! hehe

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        • amal says:

          Astagfurullah, I take my words back. I think enough is enough walahi. Peaceful Somali states of jabuti, Somaliland and northern region of Somalia should work together to help southern Somalis instead of all these fadhi ku dirir internet war. I feel sorry for the Somali race even other African countries have moved on. I don't know why any Somali is willing to promote disunity, break down, and destruction of the only functioning Somali state i.e Somaliland which has so many different clans (I see that as evil). Somaliland has so many different clans who may not even have the same political ideas yet is functioning well despite all the challenges and that's quite amazing in this Somali era. This is a prime example that we can actually co-exist. I think I really hate politics now and I just wish peace, prosperity, understanding and co-operation for all Somali people.

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          • Jabuuti_Hanolaato says:

            So far I can only muster 499 camels, the one elusive camel is hard to locate. Are you ok with 499 camels in exchange for your hand? I will be a good husband in return I want you to give me 10 Ciise sons and not teach them about their mother's side of history. Think about it, I'll get back to you soon.

            Au revoir ma cherie.

             
          • amal says:

            No thanks, I don't want a midget husband and worst of all 10 midget sons lol

             
          • Kayse says:

            hahahahahah Baking Oven Hanolaato.

            Walee ma naxdiin why isolate the midget like that he is so mad and spitting venom at all directions, but what harm can a midget python do? He can only spit the venom in the same size as his body…**takes few steps closer…I can see a bigger python behind him in BLUE, WHITE AND RED STRIPS and he is saying "marche arrière" Damn its the Paris python…

            Djibout is Afar land.

             
          • Jabuuti_Hanolaato says:

            OK, I see you have a sense of humor. I like that. I want my future wife to be funny and freaky all the same time.

             
          • mohamed cheers says:

            Amal who's this sizzling Dj amigo knocking your doors throwing passes. What does he want and why is he so sizzling!. That other mad cap Puntlandgeezer is also spying on this
            new sizzlinggeezer. Take good care Amal in the centre of two many redneck sharks
            on the loose looking out for a good kill of fiesta!.lol.
            Cheers.

             
          • amal says:

            @ mohamed cheers
            lol

            @ jabuti_haoolato

            phew i think u cooled down now lol but jokes aside brother;
            first of all by Allah I have nothing against ciise or jabuti (i mean why should i)
            secondly to be honest I was quite shocked by some of your comments recently,
            You've been repeating the same very words that some crazy people were contaminating the website with. I don't know what issue you got against issaq, maybe you were treated bad by some issaqs in the past. Whatever the case it seems you have developed some hatred in your heart—-> that's not right for a Muslim
            You've been a regular SLPess blogger so chill out mate, what's this we will squeeze you together all about. ciise is our brothers and sisters and issaqs are you brothers and sisters and Somali people need each-other more than we can ever imagine at this time of need.
            I have recently found SLPress and I have learn a lot in the somali politics but realised that it is very very unhealthy. I never actually knew somalis were that devided.
            Anyways I don't want sexiest jokes please.

             
      • Jabuuti_Hanolaato says:

        No need to knock at your thorny bush doors. We can take care of ourselves. The Afars already have a region in Ethio plus live in northern Djibouti, I am ok with that. We also live in Djibouti in greater numbers and Ethio in greater numbers as well.

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        • mohamed cheers says:

          Let me steer you to a fact; The Ciise Al-Ahmedi AL-Hashimites and the Isaaq Al-Ahmedi
          AL-Hashimites are cousins of the highest order Kingdoms of the big picture Worldwide Al-Adnan
          Al-quraisi dynasties from the Prophet/Messenger Ishmael S/O Prophet Abraham. The other Arab main streamCousins being from AL-Qahtan tribes all the way to Prophet Lot(LUD) in Arabic) .
          So buddy respect your Isaaq cousins.
          Cheers.

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  5. warsame says:

    No one expected Shabaab to rise out of Somali crises. The international interference and tribalist agendas will definitely create nationalism.

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  6. Kayse says:

    In my vision, after the decline of Western forces such as France in the next century as they are replaced by China, India, Brazil and Turkey.

    Somaliland and Ethiopia should also divide Djibouti between themselves. All ethnic Somalis (Essa warabe) should be forced to join Somaliland while all Afar should join their brothers in Ethiopia, this also means the Afar in Eritrea should follow suit.

    Thus the dividing of Djibouti (French Camp) between Somaliland and Ethiopia is inevitable. Ethiopia will gain a port and its Afar population and Somaliland will free a midget Somali race from French exploitation and its corrupted culture.

    The Horn of Africa must not be left as the colonial powers have left more than half a century ago, its own indigenous elites (Isaaq, Amhara and Kikuyus) must reshape it and return it the way it was before colonial rule.

    With West gone, so should their fake borders.

    Somaliland and Ethiopia no longer recognize the French camp (if France needs military camp, it has land big enough, it should vacate), Somalia is not capable of governing itself—-rule of law must be taken to them.

    New east Africa begins here.

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    • isse says:

      Who gives you thumbs up?o.0

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    • farhaan says:

      in my opinion,there will no longer be such intity as somaliland in the near future,but isaakland. they will annexed by ethopia and thus called gallinka 6aad,or 6 province.what u r is somali hater, so go start baglicking to senawe,

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  7. Ahmed says:

    Somaliland (the land for Somalis) if you want to separate please create a new name for yourselves.
    I just came back from Hargeysa each Habar (yonis etc) has its own territory within what is now called Somaliland. Don’t tell me you don't practice tribalism.

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  8. Hargeisawi-In-London says:

    @Ahmed,

    How about Deutschland (English:Germany) and Österreich (English:Austria)? I understand Deutschland means the German lands!

    As for your other silly comment, yes: there are different clans in Somaliland, not tribes. But what is your point?

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    • Mohamd says:

      Hargeisawi, you will be surprised to know that Deutscher means "worker" and was a nickname given to the Germanic tribes for their endless capacity to produce and produce.

      Don't worry about SL haters, if SL went through a door with the full knowledge that such door leads to heaven, our haters will choose other doors even if it means going to hell.

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  9. HMOBsiye says:

    As I have stated previously in some of my comments, the Somali state as we all know before is finish. For Somalis as people to survive, is to accept Somaliland as a sovereign state that can be a voice for all Somali speaking race.
    For those of you who are unti-Somaliland, you either accept Somaliland as a nation, or you all will parish without any voices to speak for your race or your tribe.

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    • isse says:

      I doubt! Somali Republic was the voice of all somali people (especially the first two decades after independence) because simply it was built or founded on somali nationalism. Somaliland on the other hand bases it's legitimacy on colonial legacy so to link Somaliland and somali people interests is a joke. I have nothing against Somaliland though.

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      • I Jama says:

        Ha ha ha… Somali nationalism. Where was it when the civil war ended? Let me tell you I have nothing against Somalia either but it is evident when Somalilanders exited Somalia and so did the real nationalists with them.

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    • Xarago says:

      Who is Somaliland??? Warsanagli they don't want be part of Somaliland they they told them stay way, Dhulbahante and Isaaq they fought, and Samaroon they set up their own administration. So who is Somaliland walaal you dreaming oen tribe can't be a country remember that.

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  10. isse says:

    Mr.Egal has mentioned some good points and i agree with him in some areas like when he says the roots and origins of Somalia's problems is somalis themselves not Ethiopia or/and Kenya. I also definitely agree that Somaliland can play a big role in somali reconciliation but the question here is on what basis? Somaliland is neither a sovereign somali state (like Djibouti) nor consider itself as part of somali crisis so on what basis they offered to mediate (supposing such offers were made)?

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  11. PuntlandGeezer says:

    @ ethiopian stooge aka keyse
    i just want to clarify somethin cuz i feel lyk somehow the ethiopian stooge aka keyse misunderstood really bad. the soz called ghost country of somaliland will never be recognized, soz lets not get excited there. wuz i meant was the Republic of somalia will stay how it is, but we will reintroduce a federal states in every corner in somalia including the ghost country of somaliland. each state will ave its governor, army etc. PS just be curious ave you be reading the news lately? its looks you havent… what i really suggest for you is go to Garow online & the read garow road map. it will give a little bit of headroom regarding the future of somalia. quotes
    my quote for the new year iz we will do everythin in our capacity to severely weaken somaliland. we will stretch each day just to expand the great puntland influence in to las anod, erigavo & boorama.

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    • I Jama says:

      Somalia is deemed the most failed country ever. It has suffered invasions and embarrasments again and again. SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK FEDERALISM WILL SUCCEED? You can't run your own what makes you think you should tell others what to do? Get a life

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    • mohamed cheers says:

      Puntlandgeezer from Somaliageezer is always there and known in history.
      BTW the M'jenia TFG nay TGS PM is in Bosasso after Garowe. Somaliland is always conscious
      of Puntlandgeezer next door. No denial Garowe is already screwing Somaliageezer and trying
      to screw SLD as well. But the fact remains Small Puntlandgeezer like Small Djiboutigeezer
      to screw two big elephants Somaliland and Somalia by Puntlandgeezer is too much to digest!.
      c.mon buddy you make me sick to read your trash speech. Also kayse and Jabuuti_hanolaato
      are other two mad caps!. lol. Let me say this, Somaliland will be recognized soon and this will bring
      a U-turn peaceful solutions to the Somalia problems. Puntlandgeezer will never be allowed to get
      loose from Somalia proper when Somaliland proper sits on the UN Seat and becomes new member
      of Igad fold and AL/OIC just like Somalia and Djibouti. How about that buddy!. Good for all yeah?
      Cheers.

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  12. Mahamed Ciise says:

    Somaliland = Peaceful land

    Puntland = Pirate land

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  13. Jabuuti_Hanolaato says:

    Once again the stooges running this site are censoring my comments. If they want to be fair and balance , they need to allow other viewpoints heard.

    My specific rebuttals to Goboyee Abraham and Habashi Lover/Crusader @$$ Kisser are being deleted.

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  14. Jabuuti_Hanolaato says:

    It just goes to show you the Ethiopian sympathizer, aka Habashi Lover, aka crusader @$$ kisser has no capacity to debate me but resort to name calling.

    Well this 6'4" Ciise "midget" has the right and functioning formula for north Somalia. By the way, how can you take over Djibouti when your weak @$$ military can't defend one square mile of the little triangle. My original assessment of Djibouti having the stronger military over rag-tag SNM stands. Be thankful we have not already occupied Hargesa and put fat SNM leader on war crimes trial. You will be running back to your Habashi region, which you do realize we live in greater numbers than in Djibouti? We will squeeze you tight all around like an African Rock Python squeezes its meal to death.

    Why is it the most fervent supporters of this pseudo land are none other than the Habar people?Where are the other voices, the good people of Ciise, Gadabursi, Dhulbahante, Warsangeli and Goboyee of Abraham's people demanding independence.? If you are talking about diversity, the Djibouti Cabinet is more diverse than the "government" of "Somaliland." Someone reminded me 16 out of 20 portfolio heads in your little triangle belong to one of the Habars. Just aint right!

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    • HMObsiye says:

      Who is more Habashi? Where was your dictator Mr. Gelle born? Is he not from DireDawa? Who is running the current affairs of Djibouti? is it not 80% of them born in Ethiopia? Please, think twice before calling others Habashi or Habashi lovers. 90% of Djiboutian were all born in Ethiopia except for few Somalilanders who are running your day today business. So , stop writing these nonsense.

      Now, I know why this website blocks your garbage.

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  15. Jabuuti_Hanolaato says:

    The Gestapo runs this site.

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  16. Kayse says:

    French_Camp_Hanolaato

    Is all emotional as usual and blaming everyone for his dislike. Maybe he wouldn't get so many negative votes and the site censoring him as he claims if he fixes his childish language.

    I would send him some ice to cool him down but we all know the French camp, it will melt as soon as you step out side.

    I guess he needs an insulin and some ice. Sorry midget.

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  17. Kayse says:

    The tiny French camp called Djibouti has been ruled by one family since the French downgraded its military presence. The Afar have never held any key position nor have services reached them, they will soon take over Djibouti and unite it with Ethiopian Afar and Eritrean Afar family.

    The little Essa Warabe midgets are breathing and staying alive on few oxygen tanks from Paris known as French Soldiers. This of course is gonna come to an end because West is declining and after Greece, Italy and Spain, France will be next while nations like Ethiopia continue to record positive growth…Afar in Ethiopia will become financially and militarily strong and will rescue their brothers in the French camp.

    That's why the Essa midgets cant even get their land back from Eritrea because the Afar refused to die for nothing and serve the Essa Warabes and their French masters.

    We all know Ethiopia will take Djibouti, before its too late Somaliland has to grape some.

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    • Ogadeniya says:

      You Suffer an incurable disease called Qabyaalad… How dare you insult a whole qabiil and called them midgets????? Dont you have manners Warya??? Miyaadan Aqlaaq iyo Imaan la heyn??

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      • Kayse says:

        Funny you call yourself "Ogadeniya" and accusing me of tribalism…look at yourself in the mirror while the camel is resting.

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  18. PuntlandGeezer says:

    @Jabuuti_Hanolaato

    sxb no matter what somalia and djibouti we are connected in so many ways, the relationship between somalia & djibouti is symbiotic. back in the day somalia has always been a force to be reckoned with . we used to protect djibouti, its enemies were our enemies. today djibouti is paying back its debt, first by not recognizing the secessionist issaq enclave & then deploying troops in mogadishu.
    its difficult for the ethiopian stooge SNM & its followers to understand the concept that somalia iz here to stay for gud that somalia iz one nation and can't be divided, they can fool the ignorant white man with their fake election & democracy etc but they will never fool us cuz we too smart for them.
    after al shabaab is wiped out from the the southern portion of somalia, we be happy to see djibouti under the beautiful blue somali flag.

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    • I Jama says:

      The real Ethiopian stooges are Djibouti and Puntland. Djibouti can't even run a proper airline. Who by the way was intially facilitating entry of Alshabab? Djibouti was destabilizing Somalia due to their fear of the Eritreans that were helping Somalis.

      How dumb are you to support Eritrea and expect Djibouti to be your allies? Please Djibouti is keeping Ethiopia close bussom friend not Somalia or Eritrea.

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  19. ahmed ahmed says:

    Some members of the ISAAQ,who think they are not even Africans let alone somali are the ones who are turncoats and quislings who do not see beyond qaat ,money and the pursuit of the same.

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  20. Kayse says:

    French_Camp_Hanolaato

    You claim Baking Oven Camp/French camp has the strongest army of all "Somalis" so you see Djibouti as a Somali territory? I didn't know Afar were also Somali.

    If the few Essa had army they would take over Zeila after all when your inaugurating a new Sultan for the midgets, where do you inaugurate him? Diredawa then Zeila right? Djibouti is Afar land.

    You need reality check, your sultan has to get permit to pass from Somaliland (Zeila) and Ethiopia (Diredawa).

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  21. Allemagan says:

    Hi all

    It seems that we only have 5 guys and one lady who are posting all the comments in every page of every article in SomalilandPress and liking each other. Most of you are not having a civilized debate and are trying very hard to be funny. It's obvious that all your comments are not representatice of any Somali people anywhere. Please stop insulting each other this way everyday and demeaning each other. If you continue this non-sense, you make every Somali a "midget". You bring shame to the "Somali" race and name.

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  22. ComeAgain says:

    First of all I have nothing against the people of Jabouti considering Isse and Isaaq were related, however, what in the world does jabouti mean? And for god sake why would you name a nation something that sounds like booty? Moving along!

    Like Someone else said the real Somali Nationalists left "Somalia" as soon as Somaliland declared its independence. We started it and we took it back, if you need evidence just look at Somalia its full of people that call themselves Somalis but are willing to time and again kill each other over tumble weeds!

    Jaboutiiiiiiiiiiii bahahahahaha its sooo funny ok I am calm but really wtf horta!

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  23. PuntlandGeezer says:

    hehehehhehe the ethiopian stooges SNM & they followers are jealous of the tiny state of Jabuuti. Jabuuti may be small but it's a recognized country flying its flag at the UN Headquarter, along with the beautiful blue somali flag.
    the issaq enclave has no chance of success, they dnt even exists, it's proxy state created by ethiopian to weaken somalia & dismember it from the international society

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  24. PuntlandGeezer says:

    PS the Transitional government of somalia has issue bio- metric Somali Passports and i urge the ethiopians stooges to get its hands on theses new somali passports, cuz it will do you gud & if you dnt god help as, you will banned from traveling to hargeisa.

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  25. abdid says:

    10 naked cisseh warabeh. now days even the isse aka zulu are talking,,,,my friend darod and issack are talking please keep your mouth shut…please don't bit your tongue remember your teeth sharpe sharp

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    • amal says:

      listen this evil is CLOSED i don't know why you want to open it again; that's enough
      ciise, issaq, darood are all the same people who share blood and tol iyo xidid

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  26. abdid says:

    kkkkkkk bio- metric passport for the donkeys

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  27. abdid says:

    hamar got this bio- metric passport about 5 yrs now. they need to eat firts before a bio metric paper.
    1 and 2 and 3

    logic ian foohleh

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    • Jabuuti_Hanolaato says:

      I strongly recommend English 101 if you want to be taken seriously.

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  28. Jabuuti_Hanolaato says:

    @Amal, you are an honest broker. Sister no need to defend me from your boys. I can handle whatever they throw at me. There is an American expression. All these insults from your boys do not stick to me. Few bad apples indeed won't dampen my spirit. Here is the expression: All these insults is "like water off a duck's back." What's said here is immaterial and inconsequential to my daily life.

    Also @ Amal I would refrain using sexist jokes on your behalf. I thought I was not being sexist but an admirer of the Somali girl, which you represent.

    @Abid above: Yeah, you'll need a Somalian passport to move around, lest you think a donkey ride from Hargesa to any other destination is an alternative mode of transportation.

    I want to point out jealousy/xasidnimo is not exclusive to one clan. Look at the "Thumbs up" received by perpetual haters like the Ethiopian stooge and this Abid.

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  29. amal says:

    They are not my boys but just individuals like you and most people went against you after you threw even bigger bullets kkk and generalised much and all these thumbs up business was to wind you up even more because they were angry somalilanders who have seen enough insults and attacks just because they refused to be part of the anarchy in the south and your way of retaliation and generalisation to address individual(s) made it worse thus why you got so many negative votes. And yes few bad apples don't represent all

    I know for fact issaqs don't hate isse people, most of them think isse are the closest to them. In fact no Somali from Somaliland or Somalia have anything against the peaceful isse people or Djibouti. Djibouti is pretty much there for all Somalis like a second home (there are lots of issaqs and gadabursis there and many more) Sometimes khalad khalad ku sax makes things worse and that's the mentality of Somalis and obviously shaytan spices things up but you seem an educated Somali bloke so you should know better instead of repeating the same words of those desperate lowly people. I know Djibouti is precious to you and Somaliland is also precious to us and trust me we had a long struggle to get it back and still stand firm for it no matter what. The two sisterly states co-operate peacefully and hopefully our other sister aka Somalia will come out of its long anarchy to further strengthen the Somalis in general.
    Oh and I'm sure you are not sexist but I just felt a lil comfortable, thanks for refraining from it. And if I said anything offensive I definitely didn't mean it brother.long lousy reply I know kkk

    I can only say nabad iyo caano for all :)

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    • amal says:

      Sorry that suppose to sit on the reply space

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      • amal says:

        correction: I meant i felt little bit uncomfortable

        p.s I know you didn't start this whole internet war business in the first place. Peace

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  30. Abdullah says:

    Dear readers

    I know this might sound silly but why fight over spilt milk, if 'Jabuuti_hanoolata' has a problem it is her PROBLEm, not ours.

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