August 25, 2012 · 66 Comments
DATE: 25 AUGUST 2012 IMMEDIATE
SOMALILAND DIASPORA GROUPS “AUGUST 2012 STATEMENT”
On 1 August 2012, Somalia adopted a new “Provisional Constitution” and by the end of August, a new government will be set up in Mogadishu (Xamar), Somalia. We are, however, yet again saddened by the fact that Somalians are still busy crafting constitutions and governments that claim to include Somaliland, when it is clear to everyone that since 1991, Somalilanders have not only established peace, but have adopted, a long time ago, their own Constitution and have their own democratically elected president and parliament. Whilst we hope that Somalians achieve the peace and stability that has evaded them so far, we urge them and the international community to accept and respect the irreversible decision of the Somaliland people to re-gain their sovereignty in May 1991. We state unequivocally once again, “We have our own constitution and elected representatives, good luck with yours”.
Constitutions crafted in Mogadishu (Xamar) – 1961 and 1979
In our desire for a union of all the five Somali inhabited territories of the Horn in 1960, we, in Somaliland, gave up our own independence and our own first (1960) constitution and accepted, without any previous involvement whatsoever, a constitution drafted, in Mogadishu (Xamar) by Somalians. By the time, the vast majority of Somalilanders voted overwhelming against that constitution in the referendum held on 20 June 1961, our regrets over our precipitate union with Somalia were already abundantly clear. That first constitution was abrogated by the military regime in 1969 and its place was taken by another one drawn up in Mogadishu in 1979 by the Siyad Barre Dictatorship, which was endorsed at another national referendum held on 25 August 1979.
The road to the second constitution of an independent Somaliland 1991 to 2001
Long before the military dictatorship ended in 1991, the dream of a union of all the five Somali inhabited territories turned into a delusion. After the brutal and costly war of the 1980s waged by the Military dictatorship against the Somaliland people and the collapse of the state in 1991, the Somaliland communities met at a Grand Conference in May 1991 and decided to re-gain their sovereignty, as an independent nation. The Somaliland people and their traditional leaders then embarked on a long process of re-building the peace between its communities and on establishing the necessary institutions of governance. Drafting a constitution came after those initial peace-making processes were laboriously undertaken. This involved three incremental stages: the adoption, through constituent assemblies, of a National Charter in 1993, followed by an Interim Constitution in 1997, and then finally the adoption of a Constitution in 2000 which was endorsed at a national referendum held on 31 May 2001.
Somaliland also set up democratic institutions and held successfully since 2002 two national presidential elections and parliamentary and local elections, which were all adjudged fair and free by international obersvors. Nine political parties/associations are now busy getting ready for the nation-wide local elections to be held in November 2012.
Old habits die hard: new Somalian Charters/Constitutions 2001 – 2012
In the last 20 years, numerous peace-making and government building conferences (and initiatives) had been held for Somalia. Somaliland has never attended any of them. And yet, old habits die hard and in two of the peace conferences held for Somalia abroad (in Djibouti in 2000 and in Kenya in 2004) where Transitional Charters for “Somalia” were adopted, the wishes of the painstakingly crafted Somaliland democratic national institutions (which included political parties, elected president and parliament) were deliberately disregarded. The Somalian organisers of the conferences and their international sponsors decided that the Somaliland territory was henceforth inhabited by a newly invented clan called the “DIR North” which covered the majority of the Somaliland people and that the rest of the population shall be counted as part of the “DAROD” Greater Somalia Clan. So with this fictitious identity, individuals (mainly from abroad or from Somaliland) were enticed to participate in the conferences in order to maintain the charade of Somaliland’s involvement in these processes. These individuals represented no one but themselves and are and have been considered criminals under Somaliland law.
The Somalia “Roadmap” and the August 2012 Constitution and Government
After two decades, and with Somaliland having held another peaceful presidential election and a smooth transfer of power from a defeated sitting president to a new one in 2010, who is ruling with an elected House of Representatives, one would have expected that the international community would no longer remain blind to the presence of a genuine democratic representation in Somaliland that can speak authoritatively for the Somaliland people. The international community was aware of and accepted Somaliland’s non-involvement in the “Roadmap” to end the “transition in Somalia” and so the Roadmap process including the adoption of the Constitution was driven by a group of signatories consisting of the Transitional Government (TFG), UN Representative, and Puntland, Galmudug and the ASWJ representing the Northern and Central regions of Somalia.
At the London Conference in February 2012, the international community also agreed “to support any dialogue that Somaliland and the TFG or its replacement may agree to establish in order to clarify their future relations” and a couple of preliminary meetings between Somaliland and the Somalian TFG have already taken place.
But, yet again, the whole new process of the adoption of the a new Somalian constitution and the selection (not election, as originally envisaged) of the new Somalia Assembly members was based on the same formula of denying the existence of Somaliland’s elected representatives and seeking to attract the participation of individuals from the same fictitious clan. Worse still, the emphasis on clan representation has already led to numerous Diaspora based individuals declaring “virtual clan states” even in the territories of Somaliland and neighbouring Puntland region of Somalia. Attempting to break up Somaliland into various clan areas will neither bring back a new united “Somali Republic”, nor will it leave unaffected the patchwork of clan based disparate regions in Somalia as can already be seen in the numerous declarations of “virtual mini-states”.
Somaliland was never involved in the making of Somalia’s new constitution, or in the selection of its new Assembly or government in Mogadishu. The vast majority of the real traditional leaders of Somaliland remained in Somaliland and met in Hargeisa and Erigavo a few weeks ago when they denounced the invitations extended to them. Attracting, therefore, a few mainly self-appointed elders from Somaliland who, in turn, picked “hasbeens” and “wannabes” from abroad neither co-opts Somaliland into this process, nor does it give the process any legitimacy in Somaliland. It simply reinforces the Somaliland people’s belief that the prevailing attitude in Somalia is still the desire to run Somaliland from Mogadishu (Xamar). This casts serious doubts on the future of the planned talks between Somaliland and the Somalia government agreed at the London Conference only six months ago and will pose a new threat to the fragile peace and stability in the Horn of Africa if the new Somalia government starts interfering in Somaliland’s affairs.
As the Somali sayings go, only a blind person can fall into the same hole more than once, and that losing your way on a road makes you learn it well. We lost our way once in 1960 when we gave up our sovereignty and have since counted the cost of that mistake in loss of liberty, limb and life, specially throughout the 1980s. We shall never do that again and will guard and defend our precious sovereignty.
In short, our message is:
SOMALILAND DIASPORA ORGANISATION:
[We urge any other Somaliland Diaspora Group that wishes to endorse this Somaliland August 2012 Statement to do so publicly and to contact us at the e-mail below)
NOTES:
For any further information about this Statement, please contact us at:
somalilandconstitution@gmail.com
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By goth Mohamed
Tags: Constitution, roadmap, Somaliland Diaspora
somaliland will never reunite with somalia ever again however i am open to changing the original colonial border to allow east sanag, sool and cayn join their hartis in somalia (puntland to be precise) because as historic enemies, isaaqs and daroods cannot live in the same country at all
maybe somaliland should have these boundries as a sovereign country: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Somalia_map_sta…
In your dreams! na na and no. Besides that map is false, Daroods in Somaliland don't reside all that area which your fake map shows. Riyadda ka bax oo runta u noqo.
Exactly Barwaaqo, that false map is made by daroods. They only reside half of sool and little corner of sanaag iyo buhodle village, they even trying to claim sarar caynaba iyo Erigabo.There is no free lunch iga deh and SL is ready to protect its sovereignty in every possible way
Amal why you always say half of sool when you are from w/galbeed and don't know much
about the W/bari. Dhuloz of Sool Lascanod and beyond is less than 1/4. The majority is Jecloz
settlements. Get smarter Amal and stop undermining the Sool big majority of the Jecloz.
Cheers.
mohamed cheers you are funny You think I'm deliberately undermining Sool because of HJ or something maybe you are not right in the head walahi. I've done research on SL regions and the disputed territories and I though half of sool was dhulos. Are you telling me dhulos is only less than 25% in sool woooow thanks for the information that is good news that means they are minorities in sool and begging for land. Ps how do you know I'm from w/galbeed? Our region is Togdheer. But I could not care less who lives where so long as they are all under SL and that colonial borders are secured.
Dreamers, this map is fake because Khaatumo State is bigger than this, it goes all the way to Garoowe, beyong Erigavo, jiidali city between Maidh and Lasqoray, Cayn or buuhodle district, whole Sool region expect two villages Caynaba and oog which contain less than 0.1% of sool population. we share borders with Ogadenia, Habr Gus Jecel in Togdher, HY and War@ngeli in Sanaag and M@jeerteen in Nugaal. anyway i don't want boring you with this since you already know unless you are all in denial so let me just say somali unity is untouchable.
Here we have mohamed cheers who thinks sool is 3/4 Jecloz and Dheere who extremely think everywhere is Khatumo loool The only way to proof is to do a head count on how many dhulos and how many HJs in Sool and general head count
hahahaha Amal calm down, soo kaa dhiigii kugu kacay, this map is made by non-somalis, Somalis know each other well Qabil kastana dhulkiisuu leeyahay, and buuhodle is not a village but the second capital of Togdheer . apparently Mohamed Cheers thinks 75% of Banadir are Habr Jecloz loool never seen someone so deluded in my life. I mean you can't possibility think 75% of Sool population live in Caynaba, I'm not from Sool but I have seen Caynaba it's really small city.
khaatumo citizen looooool inabti adiga iga daran who is leading the anti-Somaliland campaign lol I thought that map was created by daroods to cut and divide Somaliland on dhul balaadhis. I guess both of us got two extremely different opinions. But one thing I'm gonna do is leave Sool region out for dhulos and HJ to fight over it otherwise they'll both eat me kkkk But I could not care less who lives where so long as they are all under SL
Amal I doubt this map was made by Daroods, D@rood would've claimed whole Sanaag, half of Togdheer, Soolna meeshaba hakeenin.looool well yh I do support one Somalia but if my reer Abtis want to have their own country that's fine but thing is they can't force other qabils into somaliland same they don't like to be forced into Somaliwayn and they well aware that we don't give a damn about British colonial borders but if Dhulos elders decide to be part of somaliland that's fine too. but right now we have people like mohamed cheers who thinks every inch of former British somaliland is Habr jeclo's hahahaha
insh'allah khayr though
anyway I'm from Sanaag we don't usually get involved rest of Dhulbahantss and Habr jeclos business
khaatumo citizen, I know daroods would claim big junks (half of SL) as usual. But mohamed cheers is deluded to him the whole of SL is habar jeclo. I won't be surprised if he changes the name to Republic of Habar jeclia loool
amal, loooool waa iga qoslisay wallahi, I wouldn't be surprised either. anabti these people are crazy I don't know the last time you went back home,but dhulkaa Allah baladhiyay you'll see two islamo fighting over Barkad or tuulo lol
anyway I wish the best for all somalis whichever region they from.
khaatumo citizen, I went to hargeisa only and back so I don't know anywhere else except what I know from the map and research. InshAllah next time I'm going to travel everywhere. Looks like you've traveled around and been to many places. Yeah it's true they fight over everything walahi worse than the camel looting lol but I hope all the best for Somalis too wherever they from . I'm sure once the political side is sorted then they'll just move on and learn to coexist like they did all their lives
I don't know much about Hargeisa and Borama I only been there for few weeks.. loool don't believe these stuff every habr made her own map see for yourself.. insha'allah next time i'm gona go everywhere too even to south I have cousins from Bosaso i'll tag along with them all the way to Xamar but too scared though loool
next time i'm gonna first go to burco and sheikh where majority of my are at then cruise around the whole of Somaliland. Then maybe go down south to see Mogadishu, I heard xamar is beautiful but I'm too scared too.. at least you got your cousins to tag along, What if they call me qaldan separatist and chase me away
hahaha amal don't worry inabti you can tag along with us too. I do have pretty strong reer waqooyi dialect as well so we are on the same boat lool i'm not going to xamar untill is fully peace though, too risky
To be fair, my uncles (Abtiyaday Dhul*s) are the majority in Sool region, there's no doubt of that. They make up 65-70% of the population, but in Sanaag they are 10-12% in population wise. Apart from Dhul*s and HJ, there are also Fiqi-Shini and portion of Sa'ad Younis inhabit in Sool Region. Buhodle is a different story. The Buhodle town is divided by Somaliland-Ethiopia border so as the people. The Buhodle district of Somaliland part has no major towns with the exception of Widh-Widh and Qorulugud villages. All others has no permanent populations but nomads come usually for water.
Anyways, we have a problem here. There are lots of youngsters including M. cheers who come here and argue always something which they don't know much about it. In facts, these youngsters badly need a proper guidance.
Dhuguse, you sound more realistic to me
But leave my little nephew alone kkkk
loool I'm only teasing him sir. But your nephew is obsessed kkk lets hope he learns from his uncle Dhuguse who is more informed :-)
Don't worry about him! I will take him to Garadagland for further orientations kkkk
Don't worry about him! I will take him to Garadagland for further orientations kkkk
good idea
Abdisalan, you are very naive. May be Darod & Isaqs are arch ernemies but once they have gone their seperate ways as you suggested, what guarantee have you got that HJ & HY wouldn't turn to each other that the outside threat that united them is gone? Remember, we know very well how HJ & HY don't trust one another and had a long history of animosity.
What about the Samaroon & Isse? They don't want to be part of S_Land.
I give you a credit for recognising that it is better to leave the Harti in Northern Somalia from Isaqs Somaliland.
Darods need to accept Isaaq grievances which they do not. Because if they have did so, their Khatumolaan or Maakhirlaan would have obviously be negotiated between them and SL. However, they are just adamant that they want to make SL plans fail.
How to make SL fail; by always going through Muqdisho. During the Siyadist regime, they use to take all contracts to kill and spy SL people for Muqdisho because "They knew them well". Now they still go to Muqdisho so they can falsely misrepresent SL ppls hopes.
mohamed,get some help mate The sooner The better becuase you don’t sound good you keep having back”relapse”.
TO:ALL DELUSIONIST.
No need to worried The rest of somalia we (somalis) decided to stay together.fix your economy,sanitation and OTHER major issue such as development in your little region.
The international community or somalia will never recognice somaliland,so stop craying and realize that.
get lost faqash anagu xamar dooni mayno
why can't you let me speak my mind like you let some people do, hmm i guess i know why.
Bashir,
Simply put, you have no brains to start with.
Viva The Federal Republic of Somali
As a matter of facts, this statement released by the Somaliland Constitution Group is what we have been waiting for some time. No empty rhetoric but let us move together forward and fight in all fronts for the purpose of safeguarding the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Somaliland. We all know the restoration of Somaliland didn't come as a soft gift but with very high price.
Somaliland should also make it clear to our brothers in Somalia if they don't cease their dirty and unwarranted meddling of Somaliland's affairs with immediate effect, then there will be no other alternatives but to prepare for another long and bloody war in the Horn which is,of course, not our best interest or choice but obliged to do so. A saying goes: "If you want peace, prepare for a war".
lol you threatening war to all of Somalia or sub-clan of Dhulkahante? dont worry somalis will never agree to attack somaliland nor can somaliland force independance by war so calm down and wait for mogadishu
Dhuguse walaal, these people think we are clowns and not serious wallahi bal kawaran SL rag baa uso dagalamay and they think they can fiddle with us like that. I hope for a peaceful solution thou.
daigu rag miyaa taha maxaad rabtaa maad meel joogtid
Wanlaweyn what do you mean. I want my country Somaliland dee our people fought and died for our peace and independence, do you think it was handed to us on a silver plate. Somalia think we are a joke and they own us or can force us into unwanted union with Mogadishu. I was excited before and I though Somalis was starting to understand each-other or reconcile especially when I saw both president shaking hands and smiling but I guess we are far from that. SL will rebel far far away from Somalia and we don't want xamar and union and we'll protect our country till the end.
what i mean is fighting and misery in Somalia is the making of us men. you as a somali lady should not encourage more war and division. i personally believe somali women should rule Somalia because they are better than us having said that i am not against woman discussing contemporary political issues what saddens me is some of our ladies going so far as to siding with somali crazy men. come on look how pathetic they all are when they crying for Melez Zenawi
wanlaweyn walaal I will never encourage war but peace will depend on Somalia's attitude. If they come and try to fiddle with us it can possibly trigger a war and this is not a joke nor are we playing around. Sl belongs to none other than us and we decide what to do with it. Unity depends on both parties coming to agreement and if they do than that is fine by me. ''come on look how pathetic they all are when they crying for Melez Zenawi'' That's nothing but just political interest mate. Because of Somalia's dirty tactics and enmity towards SL we are forced to make friendship with our enemy aka Ethiopia. If you are serious about unity than you would respect and negotiate with us. How do expect us to just run back to Mogadishu like 1960 without earning our trust.
no way somalia is federal we r 1 people
We have problems with so many useless articles keep repeating on the same stupid infos,
already known by the IC and well documented of what happened before and after the Somaliland
and Somalia united in 1960s. Unfortunately, singing the same songs 24/7 are indeed a tedious
garbage. Let's concentrate on the realities on the ground and quit the monotonous bizaare lacking progressions going forward. I hate seeing articles of this sort 24/7. The Somaliland websites
should improve and match the progressions/regressions made by the realities of the de jure of the two entities, regardless of their integrated union which didn't work and went out of the window into beyond local repairs oblivion.
Cheers.
WE NEED JUSTICE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE
SOMALILAND CIVIL WAR = MURDERERS = MUSE BIXI = AHMED MIRE = INA-KAAHIN = c/RAHMAN TOLWAA = DHAGAWEYNE = JAMA YARE = SALEEBAAN GAAL
THEY WILL DO IT AGAIN IF JUSTICE IS NOT SERVED
The world communities and anti Somaliland thugs, have to realize one thing. Never again, will Somaliland reunite with a failed unity.
In my personal opinion, there are two choices IC and anti Somaliland elements have. 1) accept Somaliland as a sovereign state and maybe request a popular referendum from Somaliland people or 2) expect all out war between Somaliland people and anti Somaliland thugs. There will never be a negotiation where Somaliland will accept to be part of Somalia. Those of you who expect this day will come again, keep on dreaming.
Somaliland
Well said bro, And that's the truth whether they like it or not.
Come high water or hell fire, Somaliland is for ever and here to stay. I wouldn't waste time responding to ignorant warlords, terrorists, sea pirates and corrupt AlQaeda affiliated so-called Shariifs. The IC community is aware of the facts on the ground and Somaliland recognition is indisputable and is coming very soon no matter what the little brains in Mogadishu ignorantly say or do.
Well done Dhugtame, Just imagine an Illiterate President who can not read english or french and others are still the warlord Somalia is going back to square One of intimidation and dictatorship and more poisonous is a tribalism with their selected parliamentarians without constituent representation and also they have no mandate of the people as they did not elect no body that why the world body is surprise that Somalia what sort of Government will be..
as far as i am aware North west Somalia (former British somaliland) is official territory of Somali republic aka Somalia since 1960 however, a major tribe in that area are/were not happy with their share in the governance of then new created Somali republic. this led to low level gorilla war that intensified in the late 1980s that the late Barre mercilessly put down. after the collapse of Barre rule a major tribe in north west declared independence from the rest of Somalia however, other clans in the area especialy the daro or Derod remain firmly opposed and with to lesser extent the Der clan.
Antonio Shivo,
Your comment is overridden by the former British Somaliland Colonial demarcation borders.
North West Somaliland was de jure by legit modus operandi post Independence of 26 June 1960,
by Great Britain. The amalgamated Union between the two de jure entities failed to take off and
finally collapsed in 1991. The causes of the Union failure is all well known by the IC and well
documented. With or without, former British Somaliland was always a seperate de jure Sovereignty outside the scope of former Italian Somalia. Therefore, I find your comment is somewhat confusing
and prejudicially over-burdened, one-sided, and even handed.
Cheers.
so basically Somalia is a Federal state now, I wonders whose idea was this?? properly Augustine Mahiga
Every sate and regional government in Somalia has its constitution and self declared president. There is nothing special or unique in the tall claims of the separatists. As Kayse always says, all you base your arguments is that "this part of Somaliland was colonized by Great Britain". What else is there to support you claim for distinction?
Let us unite our country and people because as Somalis, we''ve become the laughingstock of the world.
Allemegan AKA Keyse AKA Afweyne excrement,
There is no more chance for Darood getting back to power either in Somalia or Somaliland. Therefore, you must get used to the facts on the ground and get rid of your delusions. Hatred will take you no where, try to repent from Allah for the heinous crimes you have committed through the decades and ask for the forgiveness of the Somali people. You are not in position to open your big dirty mouth, that is if you have common sense and an atom of moral integrity left in you. Just shut it up and go to hell!
Allemagan AKA Allemagarte
In addition to what Dhugtame said to you, put your sti*ky head into sand as ostriches do and never come back on this site, you fil*hy big Fa*ash!
@Allemagan.
good small comment you wrote here makes big sense to a normal human being, but diluted creatures They can’t underatand.
Allemegan AKA Keyse AKA Afweyne excrement,
There is no more chance for Darood getting back to power either in Somalia or Somaliland. Therefore, you must get used to the facts on the ground and get rid of your delusions. Hatred will take you no where, try to repent from Allah for the heinous crimes you have committed through the decades and ask for the forgiveness of the Somali people. You are not in position to open your big dirty mouth, that is if you have common sense and an atom of moral integrity left in you. Just shut it up and go to hell!
you must be taking something,without Dar@@d it’s like a car without gearbox.every somali tribe committed crimes currently silanyo is doing.
Dhugtame Darood don't want power but somalinimo cuqdada iska saar awoowe. I really don't care who rules the country as long as we have peace and stay in One country..it's all about forgive and forget.
Khatumo seeg and affiliates,
Daarood will never be trusted, you are shame to the Somali race and rest assured you will be treated as such forever.
who wants your trust stupid idiote id@@r.
Somaliland = grieving widow and saw the first British colonial officer and thinks those two are regions to claim a country.
They claim Siad Bare, a dictator protecting his rule like al Assad of Syria, targeted them which is not true, he attacked everyone but used his tribe to influence loyalties.
Witnessing the first British in the Horn is no reason to claim a country either, its like a man getting a telescope and seeing a star in the sky and saying it thats now his…
No argument. All my Isaaq friends no longer believe in SL after I explained to them things. My comments do work because I see so many of my Isaaqis quote me.
your right kayse,it is time to liberate our poeple from dilusionest no more hostage.
why are theses traitors barking on the wrong tree? somalia doesn't need your used ass, go and have your stupid independent within ur tribal borders. khaatumo iz our land & we will liberate our land from those Ethiopian occupiers by force.
Who ever wrote this has to be stupid, literally. No such thing as Somalian. Its Somali. It shows that the ghettos in the UK got the best of you. Please don't embarrass me and the people of Northern Somalia
You are ignorant of the fact that Somalians are people from Somalia. Somalilanders are people from Somaliland. Somalis are who speaks the Somali language and live in Djibouti, Ethiopia, Somaliland, Somalia and Kenya.
Now we all know who is the ignorant pigeon.
The word”somalian” it does not exist at all.somali yes it does exists.There no such Thing call somaliland in The world calender.
ANYONE WITH SOMALI ETHNICITY IS SOMALI IT DOES NOT MATTER WHERE THEY LIVE.
Keyse boy,
How can you ignorantly explain anything to Isaaq, when you can not clean the sh*t on both cheeks of your butt.
My mission is working, look the way you even comment mohahahaha. Can't control your frustrations any more because I put your little argument of secessionism to shame.
I understand my friend. I don't hate you, I want better things for you…not isolation.