August 25, 2011 · 47 Comments
GAROWE (SomalilandPress)— Puntland’s Highest Court today handed 10 year prison terms to the ambushed Somaliland officials who were en route to Taleeh when they were snatched by Puntland militias armed with heavy weapons. It was on 10th August whilst this delegation was on a working visit to the small town of Taleeh located within the Somaliland borders that a Puntland militia ambushed the Somalilanders killing one official and kidnapping the remainder of the delegation. The delegation consisted of all the top officials from Sool province, ranging from the Attorney General of Sool to the Minister of Education of Sool province.
Sheikh Abdinur Jama, the Chief Magistrate of Puntland court in pronouncing sentence claimed that; “…the defendants have been found guilty of illegally crossing into the border of Puntland and have under mined the sovereignty of Puntland”. The Puntland Government has been seeking to make propaganda out of the people they are holding captive and have been parading the hostages since the first day on local television and across the media.
The families of the hostages are concerned for the health and well-being of those held hostage and critical of the fact that the Government of Somaliland has thus far chosen to remain silent concerning this ruling.
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Tags: hostages, Puntland, Somaliland, Sool, Taleeh
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I just reposted by response to your earlier question about where I get by information. I did this so you don't think I am avoiding you in any way kkkk
Firstly, there hasn't been a census in Somalia for sometime, but there are definitely other ways to get the facts.
1. Somali History books – For example – "Failed State by Abdullahi Dool" is a fair and good book to read
2. I read any and every newspaper sites as much as possible to get the WHOLE picture and not half truths.
– I read newspapers from borama, Hargeisa, Burco, Las Anod, Las Quory, Cayanabo, Garowe, Hiraan, and even Galgala. By reading what most of the medias are saying it becomes easy to avoid large degrees of Bias
3. I read what the non-Somali (white people) are saying about situation in Somalia – blogs, history etc.
4. I also read what the kenyans and Ethiopians are saying and their views on the situation in Somalia
5. I watch debates on youtube, lectures and conferences. i.e. chatham house, Samatar brothers etc.
6. Believe it or not most clan elder meetings are now also posted online. Ie. Youtube
7. There are many decent ex-somali politicians, engineers, and military commanders and I do run into them often. But when I do, I like to ask them questions to understand why this and that happened. I discuss with them what I have read and they more often than not are willing to clarify or add to what I have read.
8. Finally, I like to understand what the various tribal biases are and understand their root causes and background. It is a complete lie or is there some truth to this generalization.
Finally, I said before that caynabo (sool) region was 55-60% Isaaq, but after double checking its actually 75% (21/28 local districts) and the Dhulbhante 25% (7/28)
Reference: Dhulbhante elder speaking at the Widh-Widh peace treaty conference
- The man in the shades starts speaking at about 30 mins in. So fastforward!
Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAUc3wyY_7c
I hope this helps and let me know what you think!
PARTIE UN
What it tells me is you have a lot of free time on your hands. Just kidding! I watched the video of the two elders speak and as a Djiboutian this is all new to me. I wouldn't know where Caynabo was on a map if my life depended on it. I thought Widh-Widh was a typo…lol. Cynics would say this guy was paid off or they can't trust Silanyo because of his past. These are not my views, in fact, I do not have a view on this matter one way or another.
PARTIE DEUX
Anyhow, your people and the Dhulbahante should get along. How? I wish I knew. I think they feel a bit overwhelmed and concerned for their future. The same sentiment expressed by the Yemeni Arabs and Isaaks during Djibouti's struggle for independence. They thought we'd slaughter them, especially the Arabs who almost always sided with the French. Thankfully that did not happen. I hate to see a Muslim killing a Muslim over such matters.
Listen, we have our own challenges (malcontents) to deal with. The Afars are always a thorn on our side. I should probably say, some Afars are a thorn on our side, not all. Will there ever be an Afar president in Djibouti? In due time with multiparties. But remember Afars ran Djibouti during colonial era. Will there ever be a Gadabursi or Isaaq president in Djibouti? As soon as Sheikh Ciise's descendant becomes president of Somaliland..lol.
Puntland is playin games but its not time to fight them yet we got get elders to help release the innocent victims of puntland propaganda.
Allah(swt) help us be patient
Waar waa Saban abaar xuni ay na hayso oo dadkii, duunyaba le'atay xageena bariga idina Somaliland iyo Puntland iyo qooq ayaad hadal haysaan oo qudha. Hadaan Habaryoonis nahay wax qabad kuma qabno dawladan. Gaar ahaan reer miyigeena idina Taleex iyo dhul aan shaqo Ku lahayn Somaliland ayaad Nagy wareerinaysaan. Waar ninkii tiisa Ku filaada ayaa mid kale wax Tara.
Dhulqiyaa,
Habarawal xageeda was sidoo kale dadkii iyo xooloba waa lagu dar xunyahay. Dowladani waa hoog iyo ba' cid aan iyaga ahayn nolol uma ogola.
oo kaalaya dee hargeisa dusheedaba waxa jiraa abaar iyo dhul gariir iyo daad dad ku dhinteen ilaa iyo awdal iyo selel, adna habar yonis iyo wax bad ka hadlaysa oo dawladaba ku canbareynaysaa , please isla yaaba qabylada xun iyo jahalnimada dhafa oo qof waliba lacag dadkiisa ha'udiro
walal there are a lot of people hiding behind clan names, don't be fooled. They are people who want to start inter-issaq fittnah and undermine Somaliland
This action by Puntland is tantamount to a declaration of war against Somaliland. It is time to play now to play fire against fire and take these suckers out!
It has been on the agression so many times. Yet Somaliland has been very patient with them.
But rest assured the ptience is wearing thin.
Ethiopian stooge SNM intrusions in our territory should stop. dis wuz happens wen you illegally cross into puntland territory to stir up problems. even though im not happy cuz those who were caught were no other then my fellow harti daroods, would have been far better if they wer reer Issaq.
This iz a wake up call for any dhulbahante traitors, Get caught & You will pay the price.
Ps we puntlanders are not against any dhulbahantes, you are our dearly brothers, Puntland iz your home to enjoy as you please but we will never accept Ethiopian stooge SNM in our land.
VIVA SSC
Were you chased out of the high sea? The Dhulbahante and Warsangali people refused to join and take part in the despicable criminal activities committed daily by the immoral pirates in Pirateland. They want to be with the civilised World and remain part and parcel of democratic Somaliland.
Dhulbahante, Warsangeli and Puntland are one people and now include Habaryoonis who is disbanding from the corrupted Somaliland regime and expecting to import aid from Bosasso. Dahabshiil and kulmiye let them go to hell.
Dhabashiil ba SSC group waashay loooool.
What did Dhabashiil do to you? They feed you and give you aid, is this how you give thanks? Tut, tut.
The noble Haryonis subclan have nothing to do with haraam -eating pirates of Puntland. These are simply criminals.
Btw, even the reason why many Habar yonis have aabar is because they have too many reer miyi people who depend on land. it is not sustainable they need to change their way of living including the reer miyi of others like sacdmuse also need to leave the miyi somehow.
let me tell u something sxb if the people caught were isaaq…..lol…… really daroods would regret the day they were born i guarantee u that.
First, you label the Dhulbahante as traitors that deserve your wrath and then you turn around 360 degrees and call them dear brothers, suggesting Majeerteenia is their how to enjoy as they please. It is no secret that the Dhulbahante nor the Warsengali are represented in Majeerteenia's autocratic and authoritarian government, while also banning them from the presidency. I fail to see the logic in that. This just shows how short sighted your kind is. We will pray for you inshallah to come back to your culture and the teaching of Islam, for your heart had become diseased and corrupted.
DOn't you see your contradiction? You love Dhulbahante and then jail them for 10 years for crossing the border? You may have come to Europe or America illegally, how would you feel if your were sentenced harshly like those gentlemen for merely crossed the border?
We Dulbahante have nothing to do with Puntland. We don't agree with Somaliland too and their kulmiye
What about Somaliland do you not like or agree with? If it's Kulmiye then a new law has been passed where more political parties could be created. The Dhulbhante can create their own party or 2-3 parties, run for office and help improve the Somaliland. The next president could be Dhulbhante and no one would mind.
Secondly, is your beef with Silanyo? If it is then he is a mortal man. He is here today and will be gone tomorrow like all of us. This I would argue isn't a legitimate reason to go to war. No one in the UK thinks about going to war just because the labour party lost and David Cameron is the prime minister.
The question the Dhulbhante should be asking themselves is – what is the best and most peaceful solution for my people? Who can we work with? Who will give us our rights and respect us? etc.
Let me know what you think.
Good! Because as Dulbahanate, you must be proud of who you are. You must be proud you have a country and a nation, and you must be proud that you are not to be used as tools for the evil minds of the majertens, who on one hand champion the 'harti dream' and the other cut the Dulbahantes out of the cake by eating everything themselves They are nothing but double faced.
and as Dulbahante, you must remember who you are, the honor of your tribe, the status of your tribe, and the value of your tribe, and go take what is yours in Somaliland be it positions. Be it whatever. It is rightfully yours and no one can deny you this. Whatever you do, just dont sit around feeling sorry and pathetic and belittling yourself by complaing without any reason and playing in the hands of majertens.
You know very well you are better than them. You used to be their Garads and Sultans, and to day your slaves are poisoning you minds against your uncles, cousins, and blood relatives. Wake up! Somaliland is here to stay. Somaliland will never be broken into pieces. As people and as a nation we will be strong. But someday puntland will be no more, and a part of the sorry state of Somalia. Never sale your freedom. Never sale yourselves to those dirty minded and selfish people who misguide and misuse people.
What is wrong with "Piractland"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this for real? even the government is in this horrific crime i really think they want to start a war with Sland. Man this is unbelivable
No sir! They dont want to start war with Somaliland, because they know very well what will happen.
These people are cowards. When there was the skirmish between the SSC militia and the Somaliland army in Buhodle early this year. They sealed their border and announced that they were not with the SSC and they were never going to accept problems. They left the SSC militia whom they armed out in the cold.
They were afraid that if thei fight became intense, it would spill into Garowe and they would have problems.
Early last year when Somaliland Army crossed into Puntland to chase those they armed. The Somaliland governmentw as begged by the elders to stop the advance of the army.
No in war they would loose everything. This is a way of fueling hatred and try to turn the Dulbahante against Somalialnd.
Habar Younis are not the only people who are poor. Poverty does not discriminate. Anyone who says different is just is a qabiilist. Pirate land is loosing Somalia politics and its Piracy so they are finding Dhulbahante as their latest money maker. Poor people have been dropped and pushed around by these so called brothers several times in the past 13 yrs of its existency. Of course the Dulbahante are also playing their own little game or risky one at that. Either way Somaliland should look at the bigger picutre as Pirateland is an insecure place and its days are numbered. These are acts of desperation. They took on more then they can chew on this one.
Omar,
Your evil belly or stomach is full because you are eating the left over in the presidential kitchen but hundred of thousands are starving in eastern somaliland. I am Habaryoonis and joining Puntland instead of suffering under the leadership of the current regime.
All qabiilists and haters are wlc to go. Good riddance
Aar is just one of many names this weirdo uses
cagti joogsan waydaba marbay ceeb la kulanta
dad aan ilaahay ka baqanayn baa meeshan wax ku qora habaryoonisna is ka dhiga majeerteenoow magaciina soo qaata __
hadaanu gaajoono iyo hadaanu dheregno intanba anagaa somaliland degan kuna faraxsan jiritaankeeda
ninkii doonaya in uu magac uu wax ku caayo soo samaysto qabiilkale yaanu ku maxaafsan ilaahayna wuu idin arkaa munaafaqnimada aad ku shaqeysataan waa taad meel ku gaadhi weydeen
hadaad tihiin reer pirateland xataa rabadaanta ilaahay laga xishoon maayo cajiib
@ Aar
Aar = Somali hero = Borma Girl = Las Anod Boy = puntland
Wow its really becoming difficult to keep track of your many names. Why can't you stick with 1 name and be normal. How about Mukhtar, Mohamed, Abbas etc. Pretend to be a chick and use Aaysha for all I care. Just use 1 name.
By the way, I am Habar Younis (ceerigabo branch) and the tricks used by Puntland in Las Anod will not work on us. We are starving and suffering like all Somalis yes, but we won't change our allegiances for any tribe or any amount of money. If we have a problem we will discuss it with the authorities and other regional tribes. In Sanaag, the Habar Jeclo, Habar younis, Dhulbhante and Warsengali ALL live in peace. And inshallah this will never change.
cawo, afkaga cano lagu qabay. Good man! Waxan majeerteen layidha aya kolay iskakeen digaya habr yonis. Halkay ku arkeen nin ka mid ah Duriyada Reer Sheekh Isxaaq maamul goboleedka majeertania wax ka doontay? Ilahey ba jira.
This is purely provocative move, but Somaliland will standby its citizens and politicians and will ultimately secure their release. This just highlights the blatant belligerence of Majeerteenia and the length they will go to in instigating mischief in this beautiful month of Ramadan among muslim brothers on both side of the borders. Our people in Somaliland including Taleex are aware of their poor tactics and patience will prevail. If peace doesn't prevail and they refuse to release those good men and compensate for what they have done, Somaliland will take an action appropriate to this provocation. Ultimately thought it is gonna be difficult to have a Democratic government to coexist peacefully with an Autocratic government that relies on piracy, terrorism, tribalism and sickestism as main strategies for survival and for hanging on to power.
And I hope people with good sense will see through these nasty tactics and maintain their composure and remain patient, for God rewards those who promote peace and those who put into practice their wonderful Islamic values despite under the severe threat of hostility and warmongering.
im dhulbahante all we r puntland not in somaliland isaac look awdal state where habarjecle claiming not gotting a fair and free. Harti waa daarood waana puntland wax walba ay ahaato ma iibsanayno jinsiyadayada puntland have president and vise vice p they came majeerten and dhulbahante weather somaliland their president and vic p r isaaq clan so i hate isaaq and love harti
Puntland will defend their land and Somalia inshaallah.
puntland is like a small annoying child, forever fidgeting, won't sit still, likes attention, hates to be ignored, mischievous with a lack of self-control. Eventually, the child grows up and matures, or gets disciplined.
This is all propaganda for the local consumption, eventually, these officials will be released, and puntland will go back to being that annoying child, until the child grows up or get disciplined.
Everything that goes up must come down. Puntland/majeerteeniya will face their fate one day not far Insha'Allah. It won't be that long either. It is ironic how this small land has brought nothing but pain and devastation for all their neighbours aswell as the poor pastoral lands living as far as kenya and other areas.
Maritime Piracy is costing the international communtiy billions of money which means that this cost will be charged back to haunt the poor African business be it in the Horn or Eastern Africa nations especially the vulnerable pastoral communities who will suffer the most. This is already affecting large populations who would loose their livelihoods because of the economic downfall of the priacy in the Horn.
Majeerteeniya thinks that they are hurting Somaliland but soon they will realise that their very existence will be in question when so many livelihoods disappear from the Horn and East Africa because of their dubious crimes against humanity. They are playing with false economy and pride which will not last for long.
It is a matter of time when the global world who is already suffering from economic collapse realises that these cowboys should be dealt with once and for all. Their government should be charged with economic crimes against humanity not to mention all the human trafficking that is going in their ports. Puntland/Majeerteniya have only proved to the world that their time has come and it is time their crimes should be forwarded to Hague and let us see how they can defend themselves when they are brought under trial for the economic crimes they have committed against humanity and the international law. The time of pateince is wearing out and they are not doing themselves any favour either.
Justice and Freedom.
Viva Somaliland.
Puntland kidnapped locals from Tuleh and put them behind bars in retaliation for Somaliland's imprisonment of Puntland pirates. Basically Puntland is a mafia state ran by the Somali pirates, there is no other motive behind kidnapping locals from their homes in Tuleh and giving them this sort of prison term.
Somaliland has sentenced Puntland criminal sea pirates to 15-20 years in the past, this is how Pirateland responded.
It's about time the international community put an end to piracy and the mafia state in Garowe.
Even if their claim for "federalism" holds any water, I don't know any federal state that prisons citizens from other federal state within a common border. Pirates are getting desperate.
Prirateland Puntland too disperate!
Most of you are engaged in fadhi-ku-dirir (fighting while sitting). You want to commit murder with your words. you show off your hurted toward other clans and people who do not agree with your clan politics. You are not respecting other as much as you would like to be respectd by others. This is what has turnished the dignity of our nation for so long and I do not see a light at the end of the tunnel becouse as I assume, it is the young people who are making these web based bloody comments. I also assume most of you do not know how to use AK47 but all of you manifest the tribal harted needed to be a murderous militant.
Finally, I want to tell you something. respect yourself and respect others. respect your people and respect other people. Puntland and Somaliland should respect the people in SSC regions and the SSC peoople themselves should respect Somaliland and Puntland.
Good luck
you are all fanatics. viva Puntland . puntland wont be hurt by internet thugs.
thats not even how to spell such a great name it's "Nabeel" it's probably one of those faqash or pirates who changes their name but still is the same person sad really sad.
The criminal syndicate aka Pirates are desperate. We, Dhulbahante and Warsangeli cannot embark in your low life crimiinal piracy and human trafficking. Why should we be in a barbaric government that does not value human life? The delegates you jailed will soon be free or…..
Pirate leader Faroole is wanted in Melbourne for ethnic cleansing in Galgala and Galkacayo. I hope he rots in jail!