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SOMALILAND: Former leaders awarded $3 million by the EU, local source
August 21, 2010 · 41 Comments
HARGEISA (Somalilandpress) — Earlier this week a local newspaper said the two former heads of state have cashed in a combine amount of US$3 million from the EU for their leadership.
Hargeisa Star newspaper in Somaliland’s capital, said former President Dahir Riyale Kahin and his Vice Ahmed Yusuf Yassin received $3m from the European Union for encouraging and establishing viable democratic institutions in the country and for their graceful acceptance of the election results after their party lost the June Presidential elections.
Abdi Jama, a local analyst, says if the claims are true it’s not a surprise giving the fact that stability and good leadership in Somaliland has unprecedented effect on the rest of the region. He cites that the EU understands the significance of having a democratic Islamic state in the Horn and across the red sea from the Middle East. “The region is also an important oil and gas route –and there are plans to construct oil pipelines from Ethiopia to Berbera in the next five years,” he said.
The source did not disclose how or when they were paid.
The claim comes week after a large delegation from ten EU countries arrived in Hargeisa to offer their congratulations and well wishes to the newly elected administration at first hand.
The delegation which was led by the EU representative to Somaliland and Somalia, Mr Marc-Andre Georges met with the former president, second opposition leader, Faisal Ali Warabe and the newly elected President Ahmed Mohamed Silaanyo.
During the meeting with President Silaanyo, the two sides discussed issues of common interest including piracy, terrorism, democracy and the overall security in the region.
The EU delegation promised to do more for Somaliland. They consisted of members from Austria, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hungry, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom.
The delegation congratulated the people of Somaliland for the recent elections which were hailed as free and fair by locals, regional organizations and the international community led by British-based Progressio and Washington-based International Republican Institute (IRI).
A day later, it was reported the former President Riyale left the country for France where his children reside. He told local reporters he plans to take time off from politics but will return as UDUB party leader. He urged his supporters to work with the new administration and remain united.
President with Mr. Marc-Andre Georges
A month before the election, former Vice President Ahmed Yassin was in Paris where he underwent a medical procedure. It’s unclear exactly what he was treated for but he said he was feeling well again on his return.
Somaliland maintains close relations with France ever since Nicolas Sarkozy opened new venues of cooperation with African states, shifting its focus away from its traditional west-African allies and engaging with the whole continent.
In late July, days after the NEC announced the election results; the French Ambassador to Djibouti, Dominique Decherf spearheaded a delegation to Hargeisa to congratulate the new President, NEC and the people of Somaliland. He disclosed that France was ready to invest millions of dollars into Somaliland’s healthcare system and higher education infrastructure but urged leading institutions to include the French language into their curriculums.
Some of the institutions they plan to invest include University of Hargeisa, Amoud University and Al-Hayat Hospital in Borama. A number of French firms including Bollore Africa Logistics, Alcatel-Lucent, Sagemcom and the oil giant Total, which already operates in Berbera, expressed interest to develop the region.
UK pledges 14 Toyota hilux pickups to Somaliland coastguards
In related development, the British embassy in Addis Ababa has pledged at least 14 pickup trucks to Somaliland’s coastguards in a move to help them combat piracy in the red sea. Mr Osman Hagar Jebril, commander of the coastguards, accepted 12 vehicles from British officials. He told reporters this was the first phase of number of military assistance promises by the UK government.
Two more vehicles are expected to arrive soon while other programmes including the training of coastguards by British naval officers is expected to begin soon. Mr Jebril thanked the British government and people for their generosity and support.
Somaliland’s presidential elections were held on June 26, on the day of the 50th anniversary of independence from Britain. President Silaanyo’s Kulmiye party won 49.6 per cent of the vote, beating the outgoing president Dahir Riyale Kahin in second position with 33.2 per cent, while second opposition UCID party finished third with 17.2 per cent of the vote.
Formerly known as British Somaliland, the country gained its independence in 1960 from UK and shortly unified with its southern neighbour to form what became known as the Somali Republic. However, after Somaliland’s democratic institutions were dismantled and its population marginalized by southern leaders, it took arms against the last Somali dictator, Mohamed Siad Bare.
In 1991 that totalitarian regime fell and Somaliland declared the restoration of its independence. It has not gained international recognition ever since but a growing number of Western and African states believe Somaliland deserves full recognition.
Like Kosovo, Somaliland is expected to questions as it bids to join the all exclusive club of statehood.
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I thought the self-made Sudanese billionaire, Mo Ibrahim, is the one who gives out the millions under his charitable foundation call "Mo Ibrahim Prize for Achievement in African Leadership"…. $5m USD is to precise!
A successful and good president in Africa who accepts defeat gracefully will….
"Award winners will receive $500,000 a year for 10 years after leaving power, followed by $200,000 a year, until they die"……..!!!
But the question is…..is ex-President HON Riyale eligible for this prize?
I certainly think should be entitled!!!!
Mo Ibrahim is from Egypt and Egypt wants to keep Somaliland in the shadow as much as it can. It will never reward Dahir Riyale or any other Somaliland leader.
I certainly think the NEC chair-man, Abdullahi Issa Hamari, is worth acknowledging for his work. Without the NEC competent staff and leadership all these would not be possible.
Its time US, EU and African organizations supported and lifted the profile of Somaliland NEC (national electoral commission).
If Riyale and Ahmed Yasin won this cash-prize then they are worth it but the NEC should have received its own $3m.
There is lesson in this, African leaders need to stop being greedy and understand when they do little things for their people big things can happen for them.
Mo Ibrahim is from SUDAN and not from EGYPT and is also the primary benefactor of SOAS in London.
I know Egyptians are our enemies as Somalilanders but don't confuse facts bro.
True Mo Ibrahim is from SUDAN…but egypt is NOT our Enemy…i dont like when ppl talk bad about our arab brothers and african brothers too …how do you know that they will NOT RECOGNICE US in the future? you dont know,and pls and pls guys stop this israel thing its realy a shame and it HURTS our intrest,DID you Guys Read what the Israeli Spokes Man wrote about us in POLITICO ? He dont wanna add us on FACEBOOK and you guys are talking about recognition from that JEWISH State !
I have no problem with Israeli recognition of Somaliland as far-fetched as it may seem, and I'll explain why Egypt is our enemy:
They are one of the major reasons we haven't been recognised by the AU up until now because a destabilised Somalia (yes, they lump us with the other parts of the former failed state) helps keep their nile-resource enemey Ethiopia from prospering. Were Somaliland to take a more hard-lined stance against one of our biggest trading partners then Egypt would warm up to us; but at this point it's political and economical suicide to stand up to our largest trading partner and neighbour.
I personally don't like Egyptian culture, but that's not the reason why I called them the enemies of Somaliland. The reason's I don't like them are different altogether but I would never use them to justify an international opinion.
Hey folks
First of all, Somaliland and Kosovo are two different issues, Kosovo is de facto whilst Somaliland is de jure!
Somalilandpress is fully aware of my previous comments but somehow for reasons unclear to me ignores the difference in meaning between de facto and de jure. Somaliland has neither real threat nor obstacle jeopardising her straight forward status quo for becoming a new UN-body member if whosoever in power is capable and knows which doors or channels to knock unshackling the simply dirty political abyss obstracting the somaliland lawfully mandatory solid de jure case.
My advice to you folks, this recognition you talking about is already in your country hands, so for goodness stop talking about Egypt, Israel, Saudi or this or that. Instead give good ideas that can help Somaliland without choosing sides of a dangerous world, be it Arabs or non-Arabs!!!
Cheers.
You are right the people in Egypt now are not the original Egyptians. Egypt was a African country unlike the Arab country it is today. But there is one thing you got wrong the original people werent oppressed but were thought that they shouldnt worship men like them and turn to Allah. Soon Egypt became a predominant islamic country. In East Africa, traders had spread Islam down the coast by the tenth century, and it gradually developed further in the following centuries. During the years of the Umayyad khalifahs from 661–750 CE, the overwhelming majority of non-Arab population of the Umayyad which stretched from Morocco to China were not Muslims. Toward the end of that time, the North African Berbers became the first major non-Arab group to accept Islam. In the Sudan, south of Egypt, the population of Nubia gradually became Muslim during the fourteenth century, through immigration of Muslim Arab tribesmen and preaching Islam, and because Christian rule became weak in the region. Muslim rule and influence, however, did not extend south of Khartoum, where the Blue and White Niles before 1500 CE. The spread into Egypt and North Africa was hardly "Islamification by sword" of Africa. These Arab armies were at best confined to Egypt and coastal mediterranian. The idea that they could have converted half the continent and sub-saharan parts like Nigeria, Kenya, Zanzibar and Tanzania "by force" is ridiculous. By contrast most of Spain and Portugal was occupied for hundreds of years and there was hardly a mass conversion there. As with China, India, Indonesia, Thailand, Phillipines and Bangladesh, the spread through peaceful trade and dialogue is the most likely explanation. The problem here is that some people just can't accept reality because the sense of rage and victimhood instilled in them (by mostly Western, or West-worshipping sources) is designed to perpetuate continual division and self-hatred in the region. This combined with a need to blame someone else for their problems has made these people completely delusional.
I think some of you got derailed. This was a topic about EU, Somaliland, democracy and our former leaders.
What's with this Egypt, Sudan, Mo Ibrahim, Mo Farah talk?
I personally am not sure if the former leaders received such claims perhaps they did but maybe not as much.
There is nothing wrong with them receiving it. Somaliland is important and strategic nation and whatever it takes to promote democracy and stability in that section of the world is worth it.
Our two former leaders have set the standards only if they had more financial access and capital—they would be up for a Nobel Peace Prize award. Unlike Obama who did nothing they would be worth it.
UK use to be a friend of Somaliland under the Liberals and Nationals and I am glade the people of UK got rid of the wastage Labor Party and their factions (trade unions).
Only the Liberals and Nationals understand UK interest, its role around the world and obligations to humanity, allies and these ever changing world.
France seems to be leading the way though when it comes to Somaliland, there is even talk it will deploy a French security firm in Berbera to secure the region from piracy.
These are all good indications for an environment that is worthy of foreign investment, engagement, recognition and development.
This payment to the former leaders is also an endorsement of Somaliland by the European Union and thus means Somaliland market is open for the international investors in energy, minerals, ports and other key infrastructures that could see the region linked to 90 million Ethiopians, 10 million South Sudanese and 10 million Somalis.
Well Egyptians of today are of course not the original Egyptians (ancient Egypt), those were brown and black people infact. A recent DNA study by the EU has proved that infact the Ancient Egyptians were related to the people of the Horn of Africa mainly the Somalis, Habasha (Ethiopia and Eritrea) and the Berbers in North Africa. Infact it said their DNA matches those of ancient Egypt 77%…the origins of Somalis, Ethiopians, Nubian and Berbers are north Egypt and the city of Berbera was name that because people really thought we were the Berbers.
Which of course busts the myth that “Somalis came from Arabia”, infect the Somalis and the Ethiopians are related and both came from North Egypt.
Its just that few Arabs arrived in East Africa during the Islamic occupation of Egypt (the Fatimate Dynasty/Caliphate)..Arabs also arrived in Ethiopia long before they arrived in Somalia and Somaliland. They arrived and lived in Axum Kingdom which also included Somaliland—This is exactly the real history of Sheikh Isahaq. He arrived in Axum and married Habesha woman, however he later moved to the east of the ancient kingdom and married indigenous Dir woman.
Axum was tolerant Kingdom and its leaders became Muslim long before Islam even arrived in Somaliland or Somalia.
It’s myth that Ahmed Gurey/Gran by the way an Arab who was born in Zeila converted Ethiopians to Muslims during his invasion of parts of ancient Ethiopia (Habasha). You have to first understand ancient Habasha, Axum/Aksum, Abyssinia and the present Ethiopia. When we say Abyssinia its referring to just the little Amhara kingdom which was predominately was Christian, while Habasha is what is now Somalia, Somaliland, Eritrea and Ethiopia.
Islam was already spread out throughout these regions and Axum/Aksum (north Ethiopia now and Somaliland) was practicing Islam long before many Arab states and Somalia. Read about the first Hijra. The Muslims traveled from Makkah to Aksum kingdom to seek refuge from the barbaric Quresh tribes.
When Aksum became Islamic state, it later disintegrated and civil war broke out so the once one people became two sort of like when India and Pakistan became two separate nations. The Muslims traveled east to whats now Somaliland, Somalia, and Oromia kingdom, while the Christians moved into the highlands. Sheikh Isahaq was part of this migration, he moved from North Ethiopia (Aksum city) to Harar (later war broke out) then to eastern Somaliland (Meydh where he is buried) with his first Habasha wife and later indigenous Dir wife (Magado). I’m saying he did not arrive from Arabia to Somaliland but from Arabia (KSA) to Aksum kingdom.
It was here that he would write and publish books in the Arabic language which are available in parts of Egypt and Yemen (read Al Casjad al Manduum Li-Taariikh Wal Culuum by Mohamed Hassan Al-Basri .2- Al-Dur Al Muntakhab Fi Laqab Wal-Nasab, Thamratual Mushtaaq Fi Manaaqib Sheikh Ishaaq by Sharif Mubiid Al-Nudayri Al-Bal’awi written 1825, 110 page book by Sharif Ahmed Mohamed Al-Gherbaani written in 1910)
Of course later wars will break out between them and it will eventually shape the region to what it is today, Eritrea, Somaliland, Ethiopia, Somalia, Djibouti, Yemen…
Todays Egyptians are divided into several groups of different ethnicities. Millions of Egyptians are of Turkish origin, who remained in Egypt after the collapse of the Othman Empire. The Aqbaat are the orthodox christians, who still who inhibit the southern part of Egypt. Alsaaida are the bruin skinned ones, who, like the Aqbaat, are regarded as the original Egyptians, but were converted to Islam. They form one part of the people known as Nubis. The other Nubi group look very much like our Somalis and dwell in southern Egypt as well as north Sudan. There are other minorities, mainly found in the cities such as Cairo, Alaxanderia, Al-mansuura etc. Their ancesters immigrated long ago to Egypt from countries such Greece, Italiya, and even France. These minorities have already their unique features and characteristic and even social heritage. They are lost in the crowd. Although all Arabs are described by scholars as mere vocal phenomene, yet other socalled Arabs consider the Egyptians as the most vocal with great tendencies for demonstrating what is known locally as FAHLAWA (CLAIMING WRONGLY TO POSSESS BEST KNOWLEDGE OF ANY SUBJECT JUST FOR PUSHING ONEE'S WAY THROUGH IN COMPETITONS FOR JOBS.
hahahaha Halyeey, you have shown us different side of you, from now on you are the Egyptianologist and we will require you once we want to deal with Egypt.
What you said makes sense to me and do you know at one point, long before the Ottomans and European conquest of Africa, Egypt use to rule Somaliland?
When Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Edward Lawrence helped the local Arabs upraise against the Ottomans, Egypt told Britain, it wants Somaliland back.
Somaliland is as old as the Aksumite Kingdom and Ancient Egypt. We are today again at the center of two civilizations, Egypt and Ethiopia.
Egypt is number one enemy of Somaliland. Period.
France seems to be leading the way though…when it comes to Somaliland, there is even talk it will deploy a French security firm in Berbera to secure the region from piracy.
Somehow there’s always that bitter feeling wherever the french dominates never rises above the ground! Moreover, I doubt that the Somaliland English-speaking society will switch to the French Speaking world pretty
soon.
It’s quite likely that if the British are not interested in dealing with their ex colonial protectorate which is not case, then naturally the French or other Euros will be the Wolfs around.Kasey don’t worry about President Obama he’s the Democratic leader of the world’s super power USA!
I would very much wish to see the Americans and the British working hand in hand with the rest of the world pretty much in tow for a global better world for all the human beings to live side by side under
the Universal charter justices of in God we trust.
By the way, Keyse most of your racial analysis above tend to be accurate.
Keep up the Good work.
Cheers.
cont'd
Correction:
which is not the case.
Typical good example look at the Gcc countries developed by Uk/USA and others Euros in-tow. In particular the Horn/East African countries are pretty much in need of that kind of development and so forth. I think Black Africa is the next hub for developments and pretty good catch for the industrialised West…Oh what do I know am just pretty scarred African Guerilla!
Cheers.
Somalia is getting feasted on by vulture's while others are watching it giggling because their pockets are full of money.
I feel sorry for our past heroes. To understand our issues takes our elders to sit down with each other but the generation in between thinks they have a god given right to depart from our long traditions.
I dream of a new era and an African revolution. Of all these people that commented, you can tell which one is Somali
Somalia is getting feasted on by vultures….Please say no more
because the vultures you are talking about are none other than your
tfg in the name of Govt. and the Somalia people who don't understand
how to get rid of a chronic good for nothing hybrids of warlords and
alshabaab… Can you differentiate Tfg And Alshabaab…They are all one
and the same …If one shade fades the other is up!!!
Cheers.
Egyptians never ruled themselves, let alone ruling others. Egypt and the socalled Egyptians are subjugated by fourtien different civilizations over a period of almost twenty centuries. The first real Egyptian to rule Egypt was the disgraced
president Nasser—a humble sergeant major (bekbaasha) in the Egyptian army. who staged a coup in july 23 1952 and established a backward fascist republic. He sent King Faruq and and all royality of Egypt, who were originally Albanians just like Mohammad Ali Basha before him, to exile. Egypt was ruled for centuries by the Turks until the beginning of the last century. Egypt as a whole was only a province of the Othman Empire whose capital was Istanbul (Albaab al-caali). The Turks were the masters, who governed all the Arab countries of today in the Middleast including Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen, Iraq and all the states of the Persian Gulf, and North Africa. The Turkish Empire collapsed only because the British has driven them off from these regions and substituted them as the new colonial power., until 1952, when prsident Nasser put an end to the British rule of Egypt. Egyptians are not used to ran their own affairs even today.
Good to see Somalis are rediscovering their long stolen history and heritage. Its delightful to see people finally realising that we are more than the result of a mythical one night stand between an Arab missionary and his local Habashi lover and that we have thousands of years of civilisation behind us. The evidence of our glorious past is all over our land and needs to be explored and studied. I really hope that the World's respected institutes of archaeology, anthropology, history, ethnology, and other relevant fields would come to our land and help us recover our lost identity.
That is until the primitive Arabs from from the Arab Peninsula invaded it for pure economic reasons disguised under sinster religious pretext. Those invaders were led by a savage man called Omar Binul Ass.
Oh my God! This Somali brother ‘Halyey Layaqaan’ has described Nabi Muhammad (AS) and his companions (RA) as ‘primitive’ and ‘savage.’
In continuation of my last comment, I must also mention that Egyptians exist as a nation just because their retarded way of life and backward economy are sustained by billions (yes billions) of dollars they receive yearly in foreign aid (handout) donated by USA, EU, JAPAN, CHINA, and even, guess who: ISRAEL.
Egypt is one of the few countries on this planet, where the collapse of a ten storey bulding in Cairo would automatically mean national catastrophe whose only remedy is releasing one more cry for intrenational rescue effort. Usually rescue teams arrive from tiny Switzerland and Israel. While these foreign rescue teams are engeged in their voluntary work, you will see hundreds of Egyptians sitting around watching idly, with their hands in their pockets, and remain so for hours. This is while foreign women who are members of these rescue teams areworking so hard along side their dogs in an attempt to rescue one more lousy talkative Egyptian of imminent death. It will be a cultural shok for any somaliander to hear and see Egyptian men cry more than their own women can only to be pecified like helpless babys by women of the foreign rescue groups, before they leave Egypt with a lot of contempt.
hey all somalis came from south somalia riverine area those who speak maay dialect because you can see when you say i am from Arab descent the origin somalis doesn't have the word xa and ca those who say we are arabs there have xa and ca so you know who is your mother and where you originated so dont say somalis are came from me somalis are from north africa not Arabia my be somae jew are come to somalia not Arabs. arabs are just yesterday and that shows you how isaaq clan they r small group.
Well I am not sure of the Somali history which is more deep than people think, however, we know the story of Sheikh Ishaaq Ibn Ahmed Al-Alawi who arrived in what was Aksumite Kingdom in the 560 AD from Iraq-Syria-KSA-Yemen then to Aksum city (now North Ethiopia) then he later settled in Eastern Somaliland (Meydh where he is buried).
His journey from Iraq the birth place of his father to Saudi Arabia (where he was born) and then back to Syria then to Yemen and eventually to Horn of Africa is well documented throughout Arabia and his diaries and documents are available to this day.
Not only that but what most people don't know is that, while he was in Yemen he also had a wife there and had a huge family, infact four sons, today you can find them in Yemen. In Aksum, he had four sons with the Habasha wife and finally with his Dir wife (magado) another four. These eight sons will make the Ishaaq nation we know of today.
Another thing most people know is that Somaliland is really the birth place of Daro0ds, Sheekhaal and the Ashraf people as well as the indigenous Dir.
The Dar0ods (Abdirahman sheik Ismail Ibn Ibrahim Ibn Abdisamad Al-Uqeeyli Al-Zayli) who arrived from Yemen, first settled in Zeila as did the Ashraf people who also have Arab ancestral.Theyt are the Jaberti people who also live in Eritrea who arrived in Aksumite Kingdom from Arabia. They are not alone, there are the bin Amirs, the Belen, Saho and of course the Hararian people (Adari) of Harar.
Many Arabs also arrived in Somaliland during the Ifat, Adal and the Qurayshite sultanate of Shawa ended 1280 A.D (from the house of the of Mukhsumites but later would relaunch Adal Sultanate and reconquer Habasha/Aksum and force the Abyssinian to flee to the mountains). One of these groups who came for the jihad included the Ashrafs from Morocco to Zeila. Today the Ashrafs live in eastern Ethiopia in the Somali State.
While the history of Sheekhal is he was born in the Somaliland city of Sheekh.
All the Somalis originated from Somaliland and moved to the south to find better settlements and water, this migration has a name but I dont recall it. Even the word "Somal" originated from Somaliland, the first written such is found in an island not far from Zeila.
Zeila has deep history and its time to relaunch and restore this city and its history.
During these times, the Habasha-Somali people were known simply as the "black berbers".
Aksum and Zeila, two old foes yet two inter-linked cities and civilizations are truly the birth places of the Horn of Africa nations. The Habasha and the Somal are one people, hate it or love it.
His journey from Iraq the birth place of his father to KSA (where he was born) and then back to Syria then to Yemen and eventually to Africa is well documented throughout Arabia and his diaries and documents are available to this day.
Not only that but what most people don't know is that, while he was in Yemen he also had a wife there and had a huge family, infact four sons, today you can find them in Yemen. In Aksum, he had four sons with the Habasha wife and finally with his Dir wife (magado) another four. These eight sons will make the Ishaaq nation we know of today.
Another thing most people know is that Somaliland is really the birth place of Daro0ds, Sheekhaal and the Ashraf people as well as the indigenous Dir.
The Dar0ods (Abdirahman sheik Ismail Ibn Ibrahim Ibn Abdisamad Al-Uqeeyli Al-Zayli) who arrived from Yemen, first settled in Zeila as did the Ashraf people who also have Arab ancestral. There are the Jaberti people who also live in Eritrea who arrived in Aksumite Kingdom from Arabia. They are not alone, there are the bin Amirs, the Belen, Saho and of course the Hararian people (Adari) of Harar.
Many Arabs also arrived in Somaliland during the Ifat, Adal and the Qurayshite sultanate of Shawa ended 1280 A.D (from the house of the of Mukhsumites but later would relaunch Adal Sultanate and reconquer Habasha/Aksum and force the Abyssinian to flee to the mountains). One of these groups who came for the jihad included the Ashrafs from Morocco to Zeila. Today the Ashrafs live in eastern Ethiopia in the Somali State.
While the history of Sheekhal is he was born in the Somaliland city of Sheekh.
All the Somalis originated from Somaliland and moved to the south to find better settlements and water, this migration has a name but I dont recall it. Even the word "Somal" originated from Somaliland, the first written such is found in an island not far from Zeila.
Zeila has deep history and its time to relaunch and restore this city and its history.
During these times, the Habasha-Somali people were known simply as the "black berbers".
Aksum and Zeila, two old foes yet two inter-linked cities and civilizations are truly the birth places of the Horn of Africa nations. The Habasha and the Somal are one people, hate it or love it.
Hi Kayse,
I would like to ask you if you are the one who wrote the article regarding the origins of the Sheikh you mentioned here in the website maanhadal.com?
I am very interested to learn more about our origins because I stopped buying the fiction that is Sheikh Isaaq, Darood, and others.
By the way before you suspect my roots, I am from Sanaag in Somaliland.
No idea about that article and never heard of such website.
Somalilandpress is deleting every thing I type and its all clean, Walahi cajiib.
Sheikh Isahaaq's story is well known throughout Arabia thanks to the Yemeni born Aydarus Al-Barawi.
Attn Somalilandpress.
Please pay attention to the writings of Halyey layaqaan! This guy is out of control…no brakes…preaches sensitive hateful issues full of unnecessary provocative malice which do not support Somaliland, you know what I mean. Maybe this guy like many others using your website are disguises to the true Somalilanderism spirit to show good manners and so forth. thank you.
Why are Somaliland press editors allowing this Halyey Layaqaan to write hateful material abusing our prophet (AS) and his companions (RA).
Hey Kayse
"Sheikh Ishaaq Ibn Ahmed Al-Alawi who arrived in what was Aksumite Kingdom in the 560 AD from Iraq-Syria-KSA-Yemen then to Aksum city (now North Ethiopia) then he later settled in Eastern Somaliland (Meydh where he is buried). "
Ok-
When Sheikh Isaaq arrived in Somaliland, he's welcome by Oromo people living there and I believe as Issaq we are originally Oromo but when sheikh Isaaq arrived in Somaliland he divided to his "xer" or groups to- Ayuub,Araab,Awaal,Garhajis,Muse,Ahmed Mohamed and Ibrahim and he called them Reer sheikh Isaaq.
You are might be right Mr Aussie. What you said is what I was thinking about all along. Also, the same goes for the Darood and Hawiye clans too. Basically, all the Somali people and many of their towns and villages were there in the Horn of Africa long before the advent of Islam and the spread of it through out the region. So the notion that few Arab guys ''landed on nobody's land and populated it with their mixed race offspring'' is an outrageous fantasy. DNA analysis of the Somali, Oromo, Amharic, Tigray, Afar, and others in the region found that we are all related peoples and have more or less the same origins.
Okay everybody CHILL OUT…. enough with all this Egypt and Arabta hate us… and enough with the irrelevant Shiikh Isxaaq background lecture…Ya akhy stick to the point…
Regardless of its reliablity,I actually find this piece of news very much amusing. (Former leaders awarded $3 million by the EU) sounds like a bad joke, I mean pay off the last government? Seriously! what have they accomplished for Somaliland and its people? let me see Safety and Stability we owe that to Allah Subhanu Wa Taa'laa for He is watching over us not Mr. Riyale and his former regime.
How about we us the alleged 3 M to fill the gap that he left behind and pay the debits of the country. :)
If we are all related and share the same roots, culture, religion and language, why can't we all get along? Is it because of tribalism or because of something else?
LOL…
Ask the devil he's the one to answer and address your concerns!
by the way Aussie the Sh.isaak married from the Oromo but don't make
a mistake he's a pure hashimite from the quraishi tribes the DNA of Prophet
Ishmael s/o Prophet Abraham. For anything else MR. Kayse's briefs
are good enough to follow.
Cheers.
This discussion is getting educational, with the exception of Halyey Layaqaan, whose writing are mixture of half truth, obvious hate of Egyptians/Arabs and anger. If he stick with the truth, maybe his comments would be an interesting reading. Just saying.
Can't we all get along? Well today I learn the history of Somali and SOmaliland. And still came to the conclusion of can't we all get along for Allah's sake. We worry about this dunnya when the really test is the next life and it’s trail subhnallah . “That keeping firm in worldly life is when the two angles come in the grave and ask the believer: ''who is your God?'' he answers: ''my God is Allah''. They ask: ''what is your religion?'' he answers: ''my religion is Islam''. They say: ''who is your Prophet?'', he says: ''he is Muhammad the Messenger of Allah''. The Prophet, peace be upon him said: ''the deceased is followed by three: his money, his folks and his deeds, two leave him and return and one stays with him; his money and folks leave, and his deeds stay''. [Narrated by Bukhari]
I hope it's not too rude of me to post on this forum, as I'm not Somali & indeed the closest I've been to your country is Djibouti. But I am taking a small group of archaeological tourists from the UK to Somaliland in April-May 2011, as it's high time we came to look at your undoubtedly fascinating country with its rich history. But, as you will know, recent information on your country's historical sites (other than Las Geel & associated caves) is rather hard to come by. From your site, I am sure that Zeila and Maydh are places we must visit. Can I please ask this forum for suggestions and recommendations? I very much want to learn more.
Many thanks in advance, and I hope you don't have to wait too long for recognition,
Antonia Willis http://www.desertdiscoveries.co.uk
There seems to be some people here who like to write lies about our neighbouring countries. These people do not represents anybody expect themself . If you have nothing construtive to write, why bother coming SL press.
JSL A nolaato .
Adan Farah, JSL
First of all lets get this fact straight,east africans were the first people in the planet from (adam and eve adan iyo hawa) from scienctis who discovered the first human on earth earliest somalien beings remains & bones, and it states in the quran that the last humans on earth will in abbsinaya which use to ethiopia somaliland djboubti eleteria mainly and small parts of sudan and kenya. because we were all united and had many kingdoms that use to rule the whole of africa like washington.(DC) and the ancient world we than migrated to yeman which all arabs come from. so every one came from us and we were the real pharoahs we use to rule from morocco to egypt to jeruselem to central to south west africa. that is why all the features of the phoros in egypt have all been disfigured. we were so powerfully egypt was the captial of the world what happen to us? is to understand His-story.