August 31, 2012 · 58 Comments
I’ am very certain this is not a new music to your earse, as many Slanders, have already commented privately and publicly before me inteclltual, and independent diplomate, from the diaspora community,they have expressed their grave concerned, about president Ahmed Siilanyo’s adminstration handling of its foreign policy in the wake of the London and Dubia Road map Accord.
Mr Siilanyo agreed to enter talk, with the outgoing weak, corrupt and unelected former warlords, TFG government based at Mogdishu Airport, against the wishes of the Somaliland electroate this was defintely a very bad move ill, advised misled, and misjudged by president Ahmed Siilanyo a controversial political heavy weight, the fact Mr Siilanyo signed a blank cheque for ex, warlord and current president of Somalia Sheikh Sheriff Ahmed Somaliland’s sovereignty ve’ been jeopardised.
This is why despite the flourishing democracy, that is taking place in Sl peace and stability , many european diplomate MEPs, friends of Somalilands including Uk parliamentrian group led by Alun Michael and Kerry Mcathy and Mr Tannck whom have been lobbying rigorously and tirelessly, persuading their government to put Sl ‘s case for international recognition on the forefront of the political agenda, recently these ve’ gone cold and silent, as result of president Ahmed Siilanyo’s debacle foreign policy.
What is wrong with SNM political leaders as soon as they, become head of state power corrupt them easily in short periode of time, they, do a complete u turn of Sl, constitution, and show their true colours, just like (Abdi Rahman Tuur) it is, ironic that the political wing of SNM, leaders all share the same ideology (greater Somalia) and reunification, but why though? what Hamar, got that Somaliland ve, not got in terms of natural, resources, culural deversity education, so on and so forth.
It, seems, quiet obvious that all western delegation Mps. diplomate and business people used to pay frequent visit to Hargeisa capital of somaliland have change their travel planned to Bosaaso and Mogdishu,
I, therefore urge president Ahmed Siilanyo to make a turnaround foreign policy as swiftly as possible, in order to rectified this issue once and for all, in the meantime Somaliland respresentatives, (wakiilo) in europe and north America should be dismissed they’re incomptent inexprienced, and wast of space the bottom line is that Sl Ministry of foreign affairs is unfit for purpose.
By: Ali A. Ismail Dheeg
Newport_SouthWales/Uk
Political Activist
By goth Mohamed
Well said Mr Dheeg, you re' true Somalilander through and through, you 're absoutely right that Mr Siilanyo and the late Somaliland leaders Abdiraham Tuur and Ibrahim Cigal god, rest the sol (RIP) all have share the same aspiration and ideology Somaliweyn, but why is the one million question?
As you pointed out very nicely what Koonfur have and we Sl have'nt the people of Sl re' have proved to the world that they can peace and deliver peace and democracy without outside help they re' the brain power of Somalia reer Waqooyis, and Koonfur knows that, that is why cant let them go like mother losing his child.
LOL, you make me laugh. Somalia has more intellect then you Sland, how ?, well let put this whats your population, yeah that's right the bigger the population the more intellect and more resources, we have a bigger diaspora, more world connection,simple math my dear friends.
Now with that said, the only way your going get world recognition is with negotiation with Somalia. I know you die hard Slanders are going to say, no we don't and we'll never will. My reply to that would be, Why hasn't Ethiopia recognized you even though they benefit from your ports, why does the U.K who you run to ever second tell you to talk to Somalia about your future relations, Even though you raise your nose at us and think your better, your inferior complex has led you to this position of begging the world for recognition, My bothers sister lift your heads up high and open your hearts and be proud to be Somali once again, because i swear if the people of Somalia (north and south) put the same effort in are nation as they do in insulting and hate each other, we would have a wealthy, stable, strong, proud Somalia.
True somali
brother there is no false somalis, we are all somalis but Somalism will not take us to heaven, We have tried once and brought us nothing but disaster after disaster.
well,is@@q-habashi can create Their little small Enclave or move and join habashi in GONDHA region.
Have your more intellect and let them work for you somalia and your bigger population in Somalia, and your talking about recognition recognition as if is much important to you even Taiwan is not recognised and is much developed than many countries in this globe, please let us alone and do not pull us into another disaster.
We have our peace and stabilty and good governess in our beloved Country The Republic of Somaliland
you have nothing but high unemployment no development no good shools and hospitals even The bl@@dy two hargiesa councils can’t collect garbages from The streets.
You can’t compare barren desert region flying dust To Taiwan.Taiwan population over 23 million plus one of The leading exporters in high tech and industrial manufacturing sector in The world.taiwan have compine GDP more Than twenty african countries.
Those who believe in the imaginary tribal entity called "Somaliland" always talk about few things, pay attention to their argument, choice of words and argument.
It is always "we have peace"; "we are British colony"; "June 26th"; "Siad Bare"…
Why do they always say peace? This is because they are still in a stage of grieving of what happened during Siad era…when a child is bullied at school, he/she might decide not to go outside and be always stuck at that stage. In Somaliland, the south represents the big bully and psychologically they feel safe in the three triangular towns of Burao, Berbera and Hargeisa.
They also think Somalia is Darood and Darood is Somalia but can't let go of Dhulbahante at the same time or Warsangelis. They are in a complicated world that does not even make sense to all logical people regardless where in Somalia they are from.
They think few British soldiers looting their land is a reason to break away and this June 26th no longer means anything to them as they all celebrate May 18, even though Samaroons, Hartis have nothing to do with SNM.
I don't know anyone that celebrates a day when their defeated twisted fellow countrymen as an independence day. I don't see Libyans celebrating the defeat of Gaddafi as a new Independence day nor will Syrians when Assad falls.
They think Somalia is a holocaust field for anyone that is called Isaaq but they can't face it its only some Isaaqis who want this divorce.
I am an Isaaq and this runaway game makes no sense to me. Let us rebuild our Somalia and compete with foreign nations and races. We held each others back for over 60 years if not more, time to forget all that went wrong and focus on what we can get it right.
We give so much energy to what went wrong and never what we can do right. Somaliland is just a region with no rivers, fruits/veggies that is part of Somalia. It can do well if Somalia invests in infrastructure, services and resources in that region but no other future.
This is well writen small effective comment in any standard(The truth nothing but The truth).Every point you made here is correct 100%,poeple like you can rescue isaaqs The situation They into today which is unhealthy one.
As you said 52 years of waste Accept first eight years,it’t time to build our country from The ground up with equality justice for all.no more fear mongering as some folks use to get Their own benefit.
I am very happy that youre touched then why your bothered of The Republic of Somaliland and why you do not leave them alone they have made their decision to run their own destiny and they have made it, it is a shinnig star in Africa in Democracy, good gorveness, law and stability. and your talking about high unemployment and good schools any way Republic of Somaliland is much far better than your most failed country in the whole world Somalia I really pitty you judging other country and forgeting your self..
somaliland is a REGION not a country,how do you understand Things no wonder why some isaq-habashi are mentaly not stable.in reality somaliland region does not have genuine democracy They just insulting The name DEMOCRACY.hargiesa council usualy arrest journalist, activist with impunity.
as i said before Mr Siilanyo knows there is no recognition coming and he is doing what is best interest of his people and he does not know how to break to you.
oohh wifey stop talking about things u dont know about yeah – off u go the baasto wont cook itself loool
Abdiwahab,
Lool you made my day bro!
sahra.
kkk,your right. mr silanyo he knows The fake foreign policy of s/land region it’s over long time ago no way out every door is closed. but The problem is as you mention he The silanyo does not know how to break This news to mentally diluted folks.
dheere+puntlandgeezer+kayse+sahra+Alluglyman all are the same person. why are the dar00d community soo sad. i think the dar00ds are smart and they know they will never reach anywhere without iss@q. look zoomalia has been missing iss@q leadership for 20+ years and look where they are.
Al-xawayaan kaboon,
are you out of your little mind,goddamned.
To me you sound like someone who’s diluted confuse don’t know what is reality and fake.somaliland region it’s not and will not be sovereing country you need to DISGUST That.
The union between The two sides in 1960 The whole nothern somali communities decided to join NOT(isaaq-habashi).today in somaliland region They are two types of somalis,one,Those who believe fake unexisted country and Those who realise it was fake name created by few isaaq-habashi and now want to take part of building somalia ofcourse with semi-autonomous status.
@saleebaan xaaji.
your absolute right sahra. May Allah SWT make this reunification process a peaceful insh'Allah. ameen thumma ameen
Finally someone has noticed as soon as an African leader becomes a ruler of a country he becomes greedy and corrupted. You know what hurts the most when a muslim and a somali does that do his people like we have seen in the past.
Dheeg, to answer your rhetorical questions, SNM did not fight to create a separatist enclave in northern Somalia. It did not fight to create Berbera secrett corridor for Ethiopia while ignoring the masacre of our people in occupied western Somalia.
Allemagan during this time Djibouti make a lot of money with Ethiopia but it is ok for u. Pitiful.
Allemegan,
you sick and wounded dog, you can howl as much as you want no one is listening to your crap, go on!
To Mr. Dheeg with Siilaanyo or without Siilanyo in the helm, Somaliland is here to stay forever and no power on earth will be able discourage us in pursuing our destiny in creating a Sovereign, democratic, peaceful and prosperous Somaliland.
I agree Mr. Siilanyo was too busy improving the lives of Somalilanders locally and didn’t work as hard on the foreign affairs front. I hope he will create a real Ministry of foreign affairs and get rid of the current incompetent group. Somalilanders can not afford to loose one more second with these imposter losers.
Allemagan,
You missed the point again as usual. The intent in forming SNM was to liberate Somaliland from Barre's regime and indeed it was executed as planned followed by a number of successive conventions in rallying as to how to establish an effective government system to have an everlasting peace and law and order for the born again nation. An effective leadership is to cease the opportunity as it presents itself.
During those events every Somalilander was invited to participate in and voice their opinions for a way forward. In 1991 all Somalilanders collectively agreed upon that it'd make more sense for Somaliland to be separated from the rest of Somalia, essentially to go back to pre-colonial border lines. 21 yrs later Somaliland may not recognized internationally but it still remains a peaceful and stable nation. We intended to keep it that way.
Osman Qaal
Osman5
you had hit the point that the intent of forming SNM was to liberate Somaliland from the dictatorial govt of Barres as it has lost the mandate of the union of the Somalis and they had undermine and intimidatate the people of Somaliland who loved the unity of Somalia by that time and it had lost the meaning of the union that was building the country and develop its Citizens in Education, health,Agriculture,and sheltering its people in good governess, peace and stabilty this is what the Govt of Somalia has lost and it is very hard for them to bring it back as they still harness tribelism in forming their govt. Please let Somaliland stay away from that shamble and forget totaly from that unity as it has lost it is meaning full stop.
Abdisalam Jamal,
That's right, you're just reiterating the statement was made by the president of Somaliland on Feb 23, 2012, at the London conference on Somalia which he basically said " We'll never turn back, in any attempt for reunification between Somaliland and Somalia can be considered as an insult to the injury not only the elected officials but to all Somalilanders"
Osman Qaal
@Allemagan.
what your wrote here is totaly true. good comment
To Dheeg;
Do you want Daahir Riyaale's spin doctors back? Hell no! Somaliland is doing fine without them and does not need people who do nothing with public office accept to entertain the local press & the international media by writing endless articles which got us nowhere the 8 years Riyaale was in office. Ictiraafkii ayaa soo dhow, Warshad ayaanu dhagax dhigaynaa, wax weliba si wanaagsan ayay noogu soo dhamaadeen…..Dadku miyay ilaabeen ayaad moodaysaa?
The President should reshuffle his Foreign Ministry Office, get new experienced staff, bring back the African Intellectuals and diplomats who used to advice the previous governments for example Dr Iqbal, reopen the South African relations and move on like the speed of light. Somaliland needs steady progress that is based on wisdom while moving on with the times. Once the foreign office of Somaliland stopped working with the Diaspora that is when the door closed for any new progress. The direction that this office headed to was mahiga's federal deadly plan. Let us see now where it all ends.
This somalilanders are a real joke. They remind me of 2 fellas who used to constently quibble over "is it arsenal or chelsea finishing third?" My dear somalilanders please reserve/redirect your energies for something useful to your nation/religion. Stop pursuing non-existent recognition and start to live the reality. The whole problem lies in the ethio-qat, too much marqaan = i am a somalilander, not somali
Somaliland foreign policy is the best it has been in decades. Those people who are oppose to this promising policy are ignorant of how world diplomacy operates. Somaliland has legitimate case and the direction the government has chosen to take will yeild the quickest and fastest results. It is time we work towards bettering Somaliland and stir away from meddling what is working for us. The majority of legislators, politicians, elders, intellectuals and most of the informed public all support this policy. IT is Time to get on board and stop the nonesense. Instead of muddying the water, I urge any opponent to provide any specific thing they dislike about the current policy and its disadvantage to Somaliland and provide an alternative approach. Let explore the real issues not the retoric
Its important that Somaliland does away with that useless fool we have as FM and we should be more daring in our policy making so the world takes more notice of us. How I long for the return of UDUB and pray for the removal of that old HJ warlord siilanyo.
VIVA JUMHUURIYADA SOMALILAND
Fake Kayse
Please find another name and stop using Kayse who has nothing to do with the tribal runaway bride of Siad Bare.
SNM also did not fight for the destrution and balkanization of Somalia; it did not fight to create to found a region of Somalia to become part of the Ethiopian nationalities and peoples. SNM fought to liberate every square foot of Somali territoty.
Unfortunately, our people's struggle is belittled and hijacked by misguided grown men who mourn the deathe Meles Zenawi more than Azeb Misfin — men who cultivate hate and intolerance in the hearts of our northern people toward every Somali. That is pittiful.
Death of that is..
Amiin to that brother Allemagan.
SNM fought for a cause against a regime, it did not fight for a separatist tribe against other ethnic groups as they like to claim. My family were all SNM and they believe in Greater Somalia to this day.
Some people who fear dealing with their Somalis hijacked the SNM cause but I can assure you that it is coming to an end soon.
@kayse+Allemagan,compeletely right SNM never fought chopping somalia into pieces, They fought against military regime but The whole plan was hijacked by few is@@q habashi and mentaly unfit folks.
kayse+mustafa+Allemagen= A SAD DAR00D MAN.
kaboom= qabilist.
Our culturally in tune internal policy with the aid of our Lord Allah (swt) will surely override our briefly stonewalled foreign policy by our enemy. Be patient brothers and sisters, and trust that flag of ours will continue and will forever persist and prosper, I say forever and ever Insha’Allah. Patience is virtue!
Let us Make sure our vote and our heart goes with Xaqsoor leadership next time, and see it as the next best armor for the struggle we had waged years ago to safeguard the human dignity – but before that let us do some soul searching and honest home work about the current Somaliland political organizations and Xaqsoor in particular, not in a bias, tribal or egocentric way to our regret at a later time.
Somaliland entered an unsympathetic and a complex stage brought by its resilience to the outside pressure that accustomed to a spineless Africa, therefore it needs equally drastic measure to address it logically and increasingly. Be mindful that our candid and tried internal policy is more powerful, supportive and enriching than the easily manipulative exterior one of today. Long live Somaliland.
http://www.xaqsoor.com/video/758 http://www.xaqsoor.com/news/762 http://www.xaqsoor.com/video/666 http://www.xaqsoor.com/video/662
I"ve said before and I'll say it again, there comes a time when you have to face a set of facts, facts that have occurred before and have recurred again in the same way. It is what it is. Reshuffling the same facts or the same cabinet posts and ministers won't do anything. The issue is bigger than what you think it is. The issues are greater than our individual President. The international community has decided that Somalia will not be divided. Any new government will face the same issue. My advice to you is to go the French Canadian- English Canadian route.
@sahara,
The English French C/Wealth Canada is more suitably applicable in the case of
Somaliland-Djibouti for obvious reasons, unless ofcouse your blog includes tripartite
solution viz Djibouti,Somaliland,Somalia? Bring Djibouti into the fold and maybe, I say
maybe, the trio could replace the new Somalia Roadmap.
Cheers.
Mohamed well said walalwayn Forget always french somaliland. Sheick Sharif pays visist every wk to Omar Guelleh, where he take order and Sharif even accept Djibouti troops in his country. What's shame! Walalwayn dare still to speack about ' Somali unity'. I advice them to start this time to recapture 3 others remaining somalis regions but we all know walalwayn are coward. They just run behind Somaliland which fake and unfinished Union have taken heavy toll. Pitiful.
Sahra.
well said well balaced comment.some of is@@q-habashi are not getting The massege which is as you pointed out in your comment to follow similer to canada,british system(if They can understand what you mean).it does not really matter whether changing regional foreign minister or reshuffle. The IC wants to keep somalia intact.
The run away bride aka Isaaq-Habashi aka "Somalilanders" is slowly realising the facts on the ground. Two villages by few two subclans can't be a nation. Nothing can divide the Somali race. Not Siad Bare excuses, not fake Arab heritage or British colonial rule.
You have nothing that can support you. Like al Assad and Gaddafi, the Somali people upraised against Siad Bare and his socialist regime, this is not something to claim on the grounds of tribalism.
This Isaaq-Habashi thing has already collapsed and warlord Silaanyo has no idea what to do next.
The so called foreign ministry is bankrupt. Here are somethings Dr Omar exchanged with an Indian South African by the name of Iqbal.
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:40:48 +0200
Subject: Re: URGENT Follow Up from Iqbal: Somaliland-South Africa Office
From: iqbalau@gmail.com
To: awale@somalilandforeign.net
CC: momar@hotmail.co.uk ; momar@somalilandforeign.net
URGENT COMMUNICATION 21 January 2011
Greetings Walaal Minister Mohamed,
I refer to the email below of Mr. Awale of 20th Januray 2011.
Please note the following:
1. The settlement below described by Mr Awale, covers the new allowance rate of $ 1000.00 a month from July to December, which equals $ 6000.00
2. As mentioned in your e-mail below of 18th Nov 2010, the Ministry will cover the outstanding expenses, I committed myeslf to, and paid for, such as the office contracts and related expenses. If I receive the above $6000.00, the difference of $18 000 remains outstanding, to cover the amount of $24 000 mentioned below in my e-mails.
I have explained the above in detail in my email below of 18th November 2010. May I suggest Minister that you PLEASE advance this file personally and settle it? It has created a serious inconvenience for me, as I now had to take another family loan to pay a friend, who I promised I will settle this matter in 3 weeks.
I am really sad, we both have to go through this. I hope and pray this can now be urgently settled. I spoke to President Silaanyo on the phone when I was in Juba and I avoided raising this outstanding matter, hoping it would be settled soon.
I await your urgent personal intervention and that the money can be transferred at a quicker pace via Dahabshiil.
Kind regards, Iqbal
Liar liar we all know who spells Siilanyo as Silaanyo. You wrote the letter yourself or added it on.
Somaliland will keep going forward
Nice try kayse but can't you do better then that.
We have crazy Isaaq-Habashi who will go to Addis Ababa by all means to cry with Azeb Mesfin over the death of Meles while Liyu Police hunt their relatives down in Harshin just outside of Wajale.
Instead of mourning the 10 and so victims of the Liyuu, they will go to Addis to wear white headscarfs to cry waynee all day.
This is their definition of a country and self engineered new race called "Somalilander". International anthropologists need an update…
kayse,what is The way habashi cries”wayee”kkkk.as you mention your writing The person should respect him/her self first instead of always following The real enemy and colonizers.
Watching on youtube This liyuu police force They are bl@@dy notorious,design by The meles regime and The purpose was to kill Their own impunity.
correct.That is The way habashi cries.
was to kill own people with impunity.
Fair is fair Ahmed, at least under former President Rayale, Somaliland use to lobby for international recognition. Under this government, even our allies the British have stated that they have not had a signal letter or request regarding Somaliland's de-jure recognition.
This article is right, our foreign policy has gone down the tube. As for the international community not wanting a divided Somalia, folks, if people don't want each other, what are you gonna do? More war? More misery? More refugees, starvation, terrorism? Come on.
The IC will take whatever is in their interest. Right now its about getting some kind of government in Somalia so that they can get rid of terrorims and send back all the refugees in their countries. Simple as that . For two decades Somalia was jungle, hell on earth, and no batted an eye lid, the minute pirates starting attacking ships and Al-Shabab and Al-Qaeda got together, the internation community woke. Who is kidding who here?
To start with,first s/land region never had any foreign policy.it was and it’s still to date fake policy created by few confuse individual persons for Thier own gain, They knew it will not work”They were just internaining Emotional Audience”.
If IC want to divide somalia They would done it long time ago,no They are not interested for simple reasons because somalia will become five different countries it’s not pratical”you need to put your head That”.wake up smell The coffee and go forward.
There will be no more war in somalia what you need to understand is somalia is different today compare last 25 years.somalia will become four to five SEMI-AUTONOMOUS STATES WITH IN FEDERAL SOAMLIA”not a countries but semi-autonomous states.
Rubbish, federalism doesn't exist. Come on, it is people like you who deluding yourself. First of all Somaliland and Somalia were to two sovereign nations who embarked on an ill-fated union. That union is dead. The chances of something that looks like a state emerging from Somalia is practically nil. The federalism is between Somalia, puntland, gal-mudug, and so on. Somaliland is a sovereign nation. You keep forgetting that. We don't want anything to do with Somalia, federal or not.
I can't believe that Somalia has not grasped that yet. It is over, has been for over two decades.
What is wrong with these Habashi Ismail people or the ones who now call the Ugandans their "brothers". Pls do not post here if you cannot engage positively. If SL people are sharing their opinions, it does not mean self destruction, but just a cry to resolve outstanding issues.
So pls, go back to Mahiga and be good students of the Habashis and Ugandans.
Mr Dheeg what you have to realize is that there is no point pushing for recognition from the UK or US. The key is the African Union and until the AU gives the go ahead or unless we can get the support of a number of African countries we will be chasing our own tails.
There is a need to negotiate with the Somalia Govt once it's formed as there are a number of outstanding issues that need to be agreed on eg foreign assets of the defunct Somali State a well as the foriegn debt a we still have to pay for the bullets and bombs used to kill our people by the defunct Somali state, as well a trade and free movement of Somalis, do not forget property in the South that belong to Somalilanders.
keep going this death end did some one said african union with out the usa lovely
More emails from Dr Omar, Iqbal and Awale. This just proves how much they pay an Indian man for nothing. They think South Africa recognizes them and Iqbal's bank account is an "embassy". They pay him $2000 a month while they can't even take out the trash around Hargeisa or feed the starving in north Somalia.
This Indian threatens Dr Omar that he will go to Edna, hahahaha will she deliver a baby for him? What can she do to him really?
Enjoy reading it.
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From: Prof. Iqbal Jhazbhay < iqbalau@gmail.com >
Date: 20 March 2011 10:40
Subject: Fwd: URGENT Follow Up from Iqbal: Somaliland-South Africa Office
To: uk omar < momar@hotmail.co.uk >, Mohamed Omar < momar@somalilandforeign.net >
20th March 2011
Greetings Minister Omar,
I am sorry to bother you!!!
I kindly refer to my email below of 16th February 2011. I have not received any reply at all.
May I know if you have received it? We are approaching the end of March. Its now 8 months and no payment has been received, since July 2010.
It seems Minister, if you do not follow this up personally, I doubt there will be any movement.
I am sad this reflects badly on your Ministry's work ethic.
Should I take this matter up with President Silaanyo's office or Dr. Edna's government committee?
Iqbal
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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:41:44 +0200
Subject: Fwd: URGENT Follow Up from Iqbal: Somaliland-South Africa Office
From: iqbalau@gmail.com
To: momar@hotmail.co.uk ; momar@somalilandforeign.net
Greetings Minister Omar,
May I note this is my 3rd email since, 20th March. May I know if the email below has reached you?
I am contacting you as this file is not reached the point of desperation.
Iqba
On 21 January 2011 20:11, Mohamed M. Awale < awale@somalilandforeign.net > wrote:
Greatings Dear Iqbal,
May I clarify more the rates you have mentioned in your last email. in refference to my email dated 20th Janaury, 2011. I pointed out that there is two different payments Vouchers processed by the Finance department of the Ministry of foreign Affairs, one for the allowance of November and December 2011 with the new rate, and an other one of July, August, September and October allowance which is still in the process.
Since i didn't mention the rate of the payments of July to October Allowancce which i supposed it is clear with you, our finance officer has calculated it on the privious rate of $4000 each, and therefore the Total amount of the Allowance of July to October 2010 is $16000 and it is on the process in the Ministry of Finance.
Mohamed M. Awale
The P.A of the Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation.
Tel: 002522-4240083 http://www.somalilandforeign.net