January 31, 2011 · 45 Comments
Kalshale (SomalilandPress)—Fighting has reputed again in the disputed village of Kalshale located in the province of Sool between two brotherly tribes that both call the area home. It was in November of last year when the two local clans fought over this village when one tribe tried to build water dams in the village area however the other tribe did not agree with it. Because of that heavy casualties were sustained from both sides and the Somaliland arm forces had to call to restore peace.
SomalilandPress reporter Abdiqani Baynah was able to speak with a local resident from the village who confirmed that a fighting began between the two clans in the afternoon when one clan attacked the village. The attacking tribe whose militia is said to be from the city of Buhoodle did not agree with the outcome of the peace agreement that was reached last month and the decision that President Ahmed Silaanyo made in the village.
Somaliland arm forces were again successful in stopping the bloodshed however the attacking tribe retaliated against the army in which two soldiers were killed and another one was wounded. An officer who spoke with reporter Baynah on the phone confirmed the casualties and said that the village is now under the control of Somaliland army and also the army has caught four militia members.
Source: SomalilandPress
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By Mo Guled
Tags: Kalshaale, Kalshale, Puntland, Somaliland, Somaliland Fighting, Somalilandpress
We really need our army forces in these region for good. And the question I is why are the Somaliland government disarming the tribes in this region…if they want to go back to old ways and don't value the peace that somaliland offers them..I think it is time for next step..disarm the militia and the gang bangers. The women and children of that region needs no practices of the South.
oops! Why aren't the somaliland government disarming this tribes or militia whatever you want to call them.
i'm sending my condolence to the families of the two brave soldiers that lost their life ,, we all so proud of our national heroes who are ready to shed their blood for the sake of their country.
i'm making a special request to the two brotherly karshala residents and that is stop..stop the fighting and solve your problems on the table or under the tree.
The Somaliland army has to go in Buhodle and disarm the trouble makers from there who are using the poor community as cover. This was from al qaeda linked ssc group.
i hope puntland is stopped as it is them who are arming the terrorist from the village of buhoodle.The somaliland army should establish a base in kalshale to counter the threat from somalia
somaliland will fail..buhoodle and kalshaale belongs 2 dhulbahante… the somali deed somaliland will be punished.
The original conflict or misunderstanding ,as I have understood it, was between Habar Jeclo and Dhulbhante residents of the region. They both live in the area, but they seem to be acting like fools over WATERING HOLES! Honestly, since when does a watering hole have to be such a HUGE topic. They should both be allowed to use it as they wish. PROBLEM SOLVED!
because of somaliland you can go to buhoodle, all dhulbahante need to understand that they are spoiled, somaliland should send to alshababe, they will not ask for peace but cut you into pieces.
The Kalshaale problems were already properly addressed by the committes peace makers and the Govt.
together.The final deliberated solutions were not fully accepted by the Buhoodle side for whatever reason.
It's very clear the Buhoodle side does not want peace. The already Govt. arrangements to use
the SL military muscles in the troubled area must remain the correct mandate to confront this
Kalshaale Buhoodle. Either side refusing to accept the already well calculated peaceful conculsions
which was based on both religious and scientific rulings must be harshly dealt with by the SL forces.
NO excuses here. It's now a national security issue for the Somaliland Govt.to take over.
Cheers.
what do u mean scientific,what the hecks science have to do with kalshaale problem.lol
Somaliland force did a great job by stopping those tribes from fighting over lands. We are all Somalis and we own the country together and we are one community in one country. I am sending a message to every citizen: please burry the hatches and forget about tribal conflict and focus on developing Somaliland and building a flourishing future. This mentality is a throw back and it is hindering us from progressing. We should set a good model for th young generation and teach them that we are one soul in one body.
i wander why Habarjelo always seeking land towards dhulbahante land – when dhulbahante panish them they say Abtiyaalo let us stop – these days they are having shelter of somaliland arm to gain Kalshale. but it is different from the past , people of Buhoodle are alert . no more land to gain you Habarjeclo.
YOU ONE GREAT STUPIDO DID YOU KNOW THAT MR.HOREEYE
I send my condolence to the two brave soldiers who sacrificed their lives for the sake of their Land (S/land) may Allah have mercy on their souls. I think Dhulbahante need to sit down together and think about their future seriously, Kalshaale is Allah's land and we (Somaliland) said any Somalilander can live wherever he/she likes but it is Dhulmahante who are against this. History will recall what they gain from this unjust quest. for those who are in the diaspora who raise funds for these terrorist groups are as guilty as those groups they are MURDERS who killed innocent people who were praying their Eid prayer. VIVA SOMALILAND and the SONS OF SNM.
@ Horeeye. You're full of poison and should not be posting anything here. And the land you mentioned is nothing more than a semi desert, it hardly rains down there and benefits no one.
The people of sool, cayn, sanaag and awdal are taking arms to fight, soon or later they will drain SL forces, and they will be in hargeisa. not that I'm hoping for that but I'm mature and realistic. remember how SNM struggle started and the effect it made in siyad barre regime and that was a full blown gov't with a real army, SL is one tribe entity, and history thought us no tribe win over the other. Lets admit and take over while we can before we go in the permanent written somali history the tribe that hated all others. Im just trying control the future damage, I work closely with international community ( UN ) not politically, I can confirm this for you there is NO recognition coming to SL period. not from US or UK or AU or EU or AL none none none none. and that's the reality leaders of SL knows to core. and close sources from SL leaders says they know that, but they are waiting for a reasonable gov't to form in south, shocking but its true, I say why wait why not take leadership permanently from Mogadishu and close the southern borders.
I see, just because you take UN money, you think you are impartial. Never talk about Somaliland's success. Well. we know who and what you are..and if you are waiting for something reasonably to come from Mogadishu, then you are dreaming. In ethnic Somali history, Somaliland deserves a golden page. Somaliland managed to stop somalis from killing each other. Somaliland is doing everything it can to make sure that its peoples progress, irrespective of clan affiliation. Unlike Barre who destroyed Somalia, and Ina Yey who we all know that he did. Give it up, the international community you work for (?), is tired of Somalia, billions and nothing to show for it but pirates, terrorists, starving women and children. Just like Egypt and Tunisia, and Southern Sudan, it is a whole new world, except for remnants of the Barre regime, like you.
Keep on dreaming, until you come to your sense. Because, Somaliland is here to stay in all regions of Somaliland, whether you like or not.
You guys are out of tough with the reality of Somaliland and it's 6 regions. True that there are
metropolitan multi-lateral indegineous tribes in all the SL regions where any tribe has the right to
settle without discrimination..but the most important overridding factor is the democratically elected
Govts. who are the oversight sovereignty charge to maintain the peace, safety, national security and
and the wellbeing standards of the nation and country as a whole. The main security problems for
Somaliland is from the W/bari 3 regions of Somaliland and the threats of Puntland/PSS.
The Somaliland armed forces must be fully mandated to confront these dangerous tribalist
threats of Parts of Sool and Sanaag. There's no other recourse except the army solution.
Cheers.
Somaliland was once treated in iron fist by a dictator, We should therefore avoid to use force at all costs, to an unarmed people of ours. Let us mediate the involved tribes through mediation and mutual understanding, instead of radicalising the situation that flares or fuels the tribal feud that already burning.
Musa
The mediation was already conducted and completed by all the means necessary islamically
as well as scientifically with the SL. Govt. as the overall oversight sovereign authority to maintain
the national peace safety and security guaranteeing the overall copyrights powers of any given
situation(s) and vice versa etc. Any defaulting side will have to pay the price facing the iron hand
of the SL Armed forces to deal with the consequences of such crisis from within and without inorder
to protect the SL National security which is seriously at stake and can not be jeopardised . In this case Buhoodle side is fully responsible for not accepting the peace accord.
Cheers.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE MR. MUSA BUT IT DOES NOT WORK OUT LIKE THAT THE THING IS THAT EVERY BODY HATES SOMALILAND BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING WELL AND BUILDING THEY LAND AND TAKING CARE OF THEY CAMELS, WE DO NOT HAVE THOS PROBLELMES THAT WE HADE FOR 2O YEARS AGO THANKS TO "SNM" THAT SL IS A GREAT NATION SL IS ONE NOT 2, OR 3 BUT ONE NATION WITH MANEY CLAN BUT ONE.
ONE LOVE SL
ONE LOVE SNM
@Musa,
I totally I agree, he who look for Peace he will be rewarded, he who snich and doesn't know what he wants in the future, will never gain anything in life. I feel sorry for the dhulbahante, their mothers or grandmothers are somalilander and their father receive money from Puntland to attack SL, the poor people will die in between.
Cont'd.
When I say Puntland/PSS..I mean the notorious mafia oriented leadership and the
handful pockets of the PSS mercenaries. I hold goodwill wishfulness for the peaceful
Majeertenia and all Harti gene framework spider website.
Cheers.
People should stop the fight, this kind of fighting won't benefit anyone. We can always take sides like this people started the fights and so on and on. Northern Somalis or Somaliland whatever we called has two hot spots, one in Kalshaale and other is Calbardale. These issues need to be solve out of politics and politicians, we can easily solve this by cultural and clans ties since people live together for centuries with or without common authority between them. This is my personal opinion either people get upset or not. Firstable, Somaliland administration won't be see as a neutral army but rather a clan army in some regions of Somaliland. Somaliland has no rights to go into other Somalis land.
I think, community leaders and clan elders who are free from Somaliland politics will do good job to end the conflicts. I don't understand how would anyone called heroes these people who are fighting for nothing, they are uncles and neighbors and this should be stop. Isha'Allaha this won't be going on for another day. This useless fighting and no need to put more fire in to the conflicts.
What happens if community leaders and clan elders fail to resolve the Kalshaale and Ceelbardale
conflicts simply because one side or the other is not fully satisfied with the final rulings???
Does that not give the Govt. the right to take charge??? In both cases the best peace accords were
already justifiably institutionalised and honestly there should not be any lingering questions to continue.
Cheers.
My heart felt condolences to the families and friends of heroic men that lost their lives while serving their country and people. In the interest of the safety and security of all the stakeholders in and around the Kalshaale-valleyI. sincerely mean, that disarming the malitia in Buuhoodle is the way forward. The young men are so poor and desperate. They need financial and economic support to buy some camels and mary to settle down. Some cinical figures are abusing them.
The government gave its best shot that it come up with: To reverse the valley in a fully grazing-sone, pay all the blood money, and deployed the army. The only thing the government hasnt done is disarming the armed tribes men.
Its really sad to hear we have lost soldiers lives to some hardnocks and ruff necks in the name of clan militias! I pray to Almighty Allah to bless their souls and may they rest in peace.
The Kalshaale /Buuhoodle issue is not new to the community elders and religious leaders as well as the Government of Somaliland.The watering holes/water pans /berkets/balleys ,the pastures/grazing lands have always been there too.Lets call a spade a spade and realize that this is purely political instigations! Let these selfish humanoids that funding ,arming and fueling interclan feuds STOP these ungodly acts that might derail the peaceful coexistence of these communities.
To the DIASPORA=please reserve your tribalistic comments and stop funding these kind of bloody wars=Where are your ethics?religious hearts? values and principles? Did you leave the country to buy guns and bullets for the ones that you left behind or you went out to send remitance for schools,hospitals,feed the nation and communities and make a better place so that your sons and daughters can be proud of their parents generations
i rest my case
Oh!! Ahmed you are dreaming, Please wake up.
The death of the soldier has deeply touched my heart, a brave soldier who sacrificed his soul to protect peace and stability in a region poverty and ignorance rooted in so many years.
i'm sending my condolence to the family of our deceased hero. may allah regard him janah.
second an advice for the somaliland government is root out the ssc terrorist from the buuhoodle region other wise they will keep recruiting youngsters from the region and put them in fire,, because they do not care or value human at all.
The beginning of the end of Northern project. You may have the power and abuse today what happens next? another stupi@ war started by Silanyo and his sub-clan we will see where it leads to? many of you will remember today!
@Ali,
again, you want killing, careful or your own dead and your family will be first, hatred that's not go far but come back to you.
SOMALILAND IS ONE AND IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE ONE NO CLAN SHOULD EVER SAY THE LAND IS THERES AND WE SHOULD ONCE AND FOR ALL GET RETH OF CLAN. IT IS THE GOV.. WHO SAY WHAT SHOULD BE DONE AND WERE, IT WAS CLAN THAT DESTROYED US ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO WE ARE NOT LIVEING IN 1600 ANY MORE ITS 2011 SO ALL YOU SOMALILANDERS SHOULD SAY NO TO CLAN AND ONE LOVE TO SOMALILAND AND SNM.
ayanle is right wallahi
This is Dhulbanate land, I dont know why isaaq want other trabes land is net right remember dhulbahante is determine and unite they will defend their land.
i agree and we all should send money to defend our land from this snm thugs.
I always find it amusing to see WESTERNIZED SOMALIS promoting tribalism and minor skirmishes. This conflict is not 1) NEW and 2) it is about WATERING HOLES. For God sake, take an anger management class or something! If the elders in the area cannot resolve this minor dispute and come up with an equitable solution then they should be put in jail regardless of tribe – habar Jeclo and Dhulbhante. What right does anyone have to take up arms against any citizen. There are laws that should be followed! The first one is locals of any town should not be armed. Buhoodle or SSC leaders need to disarm and take their issues up with the SL supreme court or at least their counter parts (isaaq elders). That is the Islamic and Somali thing to do! Their second step should be to join the SL political system as a PROUNITY PARTY. They should campaign in the SSC as well as all parts of Somaliland, since there are many isaaq who wouldn't mind a NEW approach to UNITY.
However, if their TRUE position is WE ARE DAROOD AND YOU ARE ISAAQ then they should be jailed for stupidity alone. I would also deprive them of their fuel source QAT loool
warya ur missing the point, the ssc ppl want to be part of unified somalia,not some clan based so called country.
and as far as the SL supreme court you talk about, you think their going to side with dhul against their habar jeclo tribesmen.
ssc iz part of puntland for ever & wuz ever belongs to dhulbahante belongs to majeertenia too. we will get our land bk bye any means.
I wonder how you will get back the land, let me guess, by killing women and children like you did before, poor you, you are just jealous of prosperity, or jealous of your own blood brother. it is not about land anymore it is you (ssc or putland) unable to progress, I gess you guys cannot live without SL.
BE NICE and SL will consider letting you take refuge when you run way from your own majeertenia dahhh or let your family live in SL.
PEACE
SNM USED GUNS 2 SEPRATE THEMSELF FRM SOMALIA IN 1989 ,SNM USED GUNS 2 FIGHT WITH EACHOTHERE HABAR HARBAR 1995 , SNM R STILL USING GUNS IN LASCANOOD , WELL I SAY 2 U ALL U R BENCH OF COLD BLOODED PPL WITH NO REMORSE AND U WILL BE DELT WITH THE HANDS OF SSC FREEDOM FIGHTERS .
daroods are full of hate and when their plan was to terminate all isaaq Allah devoured their plan (they are born killers)….Somaliland will always be somalliland and it belongs to all the tribes who live there and united somaliland we will succeed….let me add may Allah give peace to Somalia too
I BELEIVE FIGHTING IN KALSHASHE IS SHIME TO SOMALILAND BECOUSE KALSHASHE HAS FIGHT B/W TWO TRIPE HABER JECLO IYO DHULMAHANTE BUT SIIRAAYO SEPORTED HIS TRAPE . I TOLD YOU GUYS SOMALILAND IS NOT BECOME RECOGNIZED COUNTRY WITH OUT DULAMANTE.WARSANAGI AND GADOBOURSI.
Somaliland belongs to isaaq and gadabursi and anyone else who genuinely lives and is from the somaliland region …people of puntland are jealous of the peace and prosperity somaliland reached because their aim before was to kill all isaaqs which they failed because Allah was on our side (it is jihad to defend your people when they are being slaughtered one by one)…..whether recognized internationally or not we will never unite with Somliya because our men worked hard to get somaliland back and yes we used guns and fist to get our land back when it was necessary…..daroods even killed women and children they are the real blood thirst…..but whatever happened in the past may Allah establish love between all tribes and wipe the anger from me…i dnt knw if that will ever happen but it would be really beautiful if the disease of tribalism could be wiped from us and that darood could just leave somaliland alone…….situations like this makes me angry wana audubillah
My advise to Dhulbahante tribe in particular is to excersize the right to remain neutral in so far as politics are concerned. Much like other countries between major countries. They have been nicked named the ‘Bermuda triangle’ due to their schizophrenic nature of their so called allegencies with neighbouring tribes. They are under the illusion that the problem with go away if they joined any side but we all know they are lying to themselves. They are but passage to others and will always feel dumbed by either side because they are inferior. Hence the complex disease some have. All sides would have no reason to give them what they want. S/land tried but like they say not all good deeds are repaid. So S.land or P.land or Somalia weyn see their two faced or three in this case of their intent and will always show them their place if they don’t excerzie the right to stay neutral & the innocent will suffer due to a stupid few.