July 6, 2012 · 77 Comments
Flag designed by Kayse for a future reunified Somali Republic — “an inclusive and fresh beginning”.
BY ABDISAMAD MOOGE
While Somaliland should be commended for building its own youthful organic democratic model, which in most part has sailed through the regional crisis– many of us feel it needs to do more. Last year President Ahmed M. Mohamud “Silanyo” signed a new legislation allowing the formation of new political parties in addition to the existing three.
The measure only confused the local people and the international community and was never a step designed to advance democracy in the country. Almost every man formed his own political party along tribal-lines. There was no sign of genuine political parties and real issues were ignored.
These parties were not a true representation of the reality on the ground nor are the existing three. They insist that they are “multi-regional” parties – not as an ideal but as a reality. They often deny the reality of “tribalism” and insisted that “provinces” was the category of identification.
In all more than 15 parties were formed and later were reduced to half after some failed to meet requirements and benchmarks. The elimination process only complicated the system even further. Every Tribe was complaining and the process became hostage to shifting allegiances. To everyone’s shock, some of the elders and tribal chiefs, who have large sphere of influence in mainstream society, said they would not accept party nominations from other regions.
President Silanyo’s own indecisiveness has also alienated Islamic and pro-Union groups across the country with many taking arms against his rule in mainly Buhodle and Sool region.
The legislation should have paved the way for Islamic and Union parties and not restrict the registration to only those that support Somaliland. Until now there is no difference in policy between the three existing parties. People vote for them based on figure heads and on tribal bases.
Somaliland needs to re-address its democratic views and introduce political parties based on policies and ideologies not regions and tribes. There should be Islamic, Secular, Union and Nationalist parties that advocate for independent Somaliland.
Until now Somaliland has not accepted the reality on the ground, while all three parties are formed on the bases of tribe they claim to multi-tribal claims are far-fetched. A multi-tribal party can only be one that firstly accepts the validity of tribal interests, and secondly, has within it individuals who are willing to overtly represent those interests through ideas.
I do not consider the three main parties a multi-regional/multi-tribal parties because they all reject the articulation of specific “tribe” interests for example union supporters in the east. Indeed there are few individuals in all three parties from most tribes but in a true democracy the favoured approach is the representation of ideas not individual representatives.
Do we have any party that represents the ideas of Islamification or Union? The answer is clear no and this threatens Somaliland’s religious moderation and material aspirations. Somaliland’s democracy and political agendas are driven by personality rather than policy and competition.
What is Kulmiye? What is UDUB? What is UCID? Is it secular nationalism? Islamism? Beyond changing power from Rayale to Silanyo or Faisal Ali Warabe – what else do they represent? What value or policy connects you to them? Do you even know if they have a mission statement? 99% of the population do not know and only choose Silanyo, the SNM veteran, Rayale, the former security chief or the engineer Faisal Ali Warabe purely based on tribe and personality.
This is not a democracy. It is a celebrity competition between personalities. It’s time Somaliland reformed its political cleavage and became a system driven by policy and competition rather than personalities and tribal views.
The system that is in place at the moment excludes unionist people and those that want moderate Islamic values as well as those who wish to see a separation between Islamism and secular nationalism.
It is time to reform Somaliland democracy and recognize everyone’s unique voice rather than claiming a certain individual is the voice of an entire region or tribe. Our parties have been too preoccupied constructing “national” platforms in personnel and content, and claiming to be speaking for “all” rather than creating a system for “all”.
For all means no restriction to the political and democracy process. Today there would not be war in Buhoodle nor in Sool if these people were given the right to exercise their democratic rights.
I am calling for the formation of a unionist party that represents those who support reunification with Somalia on the bases of policy and values and not on tribalism.
If this party is established, it will effectively clampdown against those that support violence by using democratic and people empowerment methods. People will no longer feel voiceless and will not resort to violence and violent groups will not find safe haven nor will the international community sympathize with them.
My view is for all.
Name: Somali Union Party (SUP)
Mission: To restore and reunify the Somali people peacefully under one nation. This party calls for the reunification of Somaliland and Somalia as equal nations that will form The Somali Republic. No Somali will be alienated nor blamed for anything. In the future, NFD, West Somalia and Djibouti will be invited to unify with the Somali Republic.
We will wait for things to change in Kenya and Ethiopia where within the next 50 years their ethnic federal system is most likely to collapse especially in Ethiopia where Oromo will take leadership role.
Constitution: The Somali Republic is a democratic Islamic republic which will combine communal law, Shariah and indigenous system. It will be a three state federal state where one state hosts the Legislative body, another hosts the Judicial system and finally the third will host the Executive branch of government.
Economy: Resources will be shared based on a 2:3:5 ratios with each state contributing to the development of the other. So for example, let‘s say Somaliland made $100m in certain month, and then it would keep 50% ($50m), 1/5 ($20m) for South Somalia and 3/10 ($30m) for Puntland region. Likewise, let’s say South Somalia state made $200m in the same month; it keeps 50% ($100m), it gives $60m to Somaliland and $40m to Puntland. Puntland does the same keeping 50% and giving the smaller proportion to Somaliland in that month since it received the bigger share from the South.
Once that month is complete, the next month things will be rotated, where for example now South gives the bigger share to Puntland, etc.
The federal government will then just tax the overall accounts of each state after they shared their wealth within themselves, so for example in that month now Somaliland has $50m + $40m from south and whatever from Puntland lets say $15m then the government taxes the total.
One of the first economical measures should be the construction of a railway from Kismayo to Zeila, this will not only generate income for the three states but it will help reconcile and integrate our people. They will heavily migrate between the very north and the very south. The migration will foster an atmosphere of mutual trust between the South and the North and will break down my prejudice views—now they seen the North or South for themselves.
All oil and gas finds will be divided between the State (federal government), foreign firms and the host state.
Unity will be based on economic and infrastructure integration where education is the center of the union. I am not a fan of the so called unionists currently out there who just want to force the north back into the fold which will only lead to more division and ultimately back to square one.
Unity should be achieved by peaceful means and as homogenous people we should focus economic, social and infrastructure integration and less on political and tribal divisions. The north like all people wants to live in peace and have access to resources.
Unlike the so called unionist out there currently planting bombs and seeds of hate, I believe in cultural, social, economic and infrastructure exchange and expansionism.
If your claim about Somaliland democracy is true; why are you afraid of a peaceful union party based on such principles? Like business, choices and options will only better our people — no room for monopoly and one way view.
Flag: The flag that I personally designed (6th July, 2012) as shown above reflects the true spirit and identity of the Somali race. The blue reflects our blue flag, the five stars represent the five Somali regions (Somali West, Djibouti, NFD, Somaliland and Somalia). I feel representing it with five full stars is the right idea than five points on a star. The black star is for Somaliland and is at the center because it was the first Somali region to get independence and center to the whole Greater Somalia dream.
The red star is for Djibouti again it has a red star on its flag, it should get it’s choice; white star for Somalia and we await for the two others to decide what they want, for now they will remain default white.
The white strip represents the pure Somali spirit, our reconciliation to start from a white page again and the red is taken from the last strip on the Somaliland flag and finally we are a Muslim nation, we bring the Muslim groups to the fold.
Puntland, Somaliland and Somalia will all keep their current flags as state flags.
Having a Union and Islamist party in Somaliland will advance democracy; your vote will not be asked on behave of a tribe but on behave of secularism or independence. It will not be let us beat X clan but let’s beat the Unions or the clerics.
By Abdisamad Mooge “Kayse”
Kaysejapan@gmail.com
July 6, 2012
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feysal anything better in mind, Good idea keyse looks like it took you time and effort to come out with this.
If anyone has a better idea for somaliland say it.
It took me about an hour walaal.
O sure let us do that .What brilliant idea and have ABDISAMAD MOOGE AKA. Kayse and his clan run the country since Silanyo, and others cannot do anything right.
About the Economy:
Since there is not much of oil and gas at moment let share the camel milk one cup for State and one federal government. But not sure about foreign firms would they want to have some camel milk?
Why do somalis dream of somethings that is unrealistic
The dream of Somaliweyne/ Greater Somalia is just a myth advocated by afyweyne.There is no need to disrupt the lives of people living peaceful in their own countries and suck them into an ideaology that is not only harmful to them but be at the interest of certain groups within somalia who aim to achieve demographic shift and imbalance in to the political landscape of somalia
I do not know much about the political landscape of somaliland inparticular when it comes to political parties all i know is advocating for the establishment of Unionist party will be the true test of Somalilands democratic power.
So Imam Ahmed Gurey of House of Dir had afyweyne dreams huh 500 years before our time loool. you idiot the first Somali leader ever to have called for unified Somali Islamic state was Imam Emperor Ahmed Gurey NOOOOT Afwenye the killer check your facts idiot and learn some history
Kayse do you think Unionists would support your ideas? Do you think they would ever allow a party for Self determination (sessecion) of course not.__What strikes me about so called Unionists is that they want it ALL without comprimising with Somaliland. __They want us to re-join the union, banish our flag and national identity to join Somalia again and to also have Mogadishu as the undisputed capital whether its peaceful or not. __Many of their so called intellectuals are callng for a unitary, centralized state which shows nothing has been learnt from the ill fated union of 30 years. __TO them Mogadishu is everything and the so too is the blue and white flag.__If someone was a true unionist they would support something along the lines of what you are advocating, which is a "fresh start" and a new flag and a new capital. __The flag nor the capital can belong to Somalia or Somaliland. However, I know that in reality this would never ever happen because these so called unionists would never agree to it.__All these so called unionists want is a turning back of the clocks to 1st July 1960 and the political, economic and cultural power in the South and Mogadishu. __
Their world revolves around Mogadishu and Mogadishu alone. The south with their Italian influenced mafia culture in control of the north even though the north gained its independence first.
what a disgusting article i don't know whether to cry laugh or scream there is no way this kayse dog is from the republic of somaliland i believe he is a faqash/alshabab agent desperate to see the country destroyed and return to the dark days of late 80s/mid 90s somaliland (british) will NEVER EVER reunite with somalia (italian) just because most people in the former protectorate i.e. over 50% is is*aq and they can determine the future by itself other clans are having a sulk especially the harti with their my way or high way mentality ACCEPT the reality somaliland is a is*aq led sovereign country whose independence is irreversible and sacred and EVERYBODY has to not challenge this fact for their own wellbeing
RANT OVER
He is an Hawiye from Canada. I have been doing a research about him lately and found out what he is up to and where he is from. He's on topix all the time.
He is actually Isaaq sweet heart!!
– an Isaaq unionist
Reminds me of these kids who play with maps and flags using photoshop in zoomali forums like somalinet. Rather than accepting people and realities as they are, they project a certain kind of racism towards others assuming that millions of people in Africa have no clue about their future of have aspirations.
In SL, people say "gaajo baa dhaanta gunnimo". But these kids living on welfare cheques wouldn't know the meaning of such saying. However, they have much in common with zoomalia as they love the gunnimo style as long as westerners lavish them with hotel conferences in foreign countries.
Regardless of his insane idea and believe, if anything should the name of ALLAH and his beloved Prophet be on the top of the the flag out of respect.
That not so bad idea after all.
this proves that multi party structure in african politics has utterly failed within artificial boundaries drawn up by white men splitting up tribes/ethnic group i think the borders must be redrawn and that there should be no political parties at all every politician must be an independent candidate with indigenous democracy
what the hell is this is this somalilandpress or faqshpress can you guys at least call yourselves something else and leave somaliland name behind
Well said, I say.
I used to think. Somaliland press was professional media outlet but in no doubt, they are something else.
Therefore, today is my last day here I get find another media outlet.
Good luck guys
welcome to free media something that is alien to you or would i say go back to third world where freedom of press is a offensive.
why because Kayse rejected clanism ideas and embraced Nationalism
You are free to make any sort of party you like, but the people of somaliland know what is best for them.
I pretty sure you wont get ant votes, so keep trying.
Its funny how someone can criticize you just coz he/she did not think of this before u, am not a journalist nor a good witter but a great Researcher in my own rights.I believe among the millions of good idea's we have for this great nation this is an addition to the best of the idea's we Have. KAYSE job well done.
This is just an idea, many think I'm out to create the party, I believe in ideas and designing public consensus through ideas, debates and policy.
I want to work with researcher because end of the day its their research together with visions and ideas that will pave the way for public solutions.
Eventually my mission is to establish a think-tank in Mogadishu; I do want to work with researchers, civil servants and policy makers including the IC.
This is what some don't get, a nation built on policies, demographics and ideas is stronger than one built on tribalism, fear and few historical events.
Somaliland is struggling to define what makes it different from Somalia; June 1960 is the only argument they repeat over and over again and everyone is getting bored.
This is because its not a state driven by ideas nor policies but by few historical events such as June 1960 and 1988. Nothing more.
My vision is through economic and infrastructure, we will keep our people together. Highways and railway systems while the 2:3:5 ratios makes each state to make a promise to the other and by sharing in such manner we don't become like UAE where one emirate is ultra rich and the other is dirt poor.
good on you mate, it’s just starting.
SHAME ON U ? U R NAKED AND UN CIVILIZED OPINION IS UNACCEPTABLE and test less ?
tks
Abyan.
Dear Kayse
Your article presented a good and orignal political view.
Political Democracy has been frequently distorted and misused political system in Africa. One of the chronic illnesses in Somali politics is the failure to understand and use their own social and political systems or applying internationally accepted models to their own people's needs, systems and faith.
Getting basics right is essential factor in successful political system as these basics provide the rules of the political game that equally and fairly apply to political units and entities whether they are states, regions or clans. A bothom-up process owned by the social and political units of the society is what political democracy is all about. I like your articles and I welcome SUP on the Political arena.
The red part should have been on the top since it has the Shahada…
Absolute Garbage unrealistic undemocratic . It's the wosrt ever article written by Hate monger Kayse allowed by Somaliland press. Somaliland press falllllen under pin
Who ever wrote this article is an idiot or an ignorant who is totally blind about what Somaliland stand for.
For Somalilandpress website, to accept this nonsense article on its website, it has truly shown its true color. From todays on, any one who believe in Somaliland people self-determination should shy away from this website.
When ever someone writes about his opinion in SomalilandPress that few Somalilanders do not agree the first thing they begin to say is SomalilandPress has become FaqashPress. It is very shamefull that we can not allow others to express their personal view. Mr. Kayse aka Somalilander hater, you have spoken very well my friend and I salute you.
This is what democracy does to people. Democratic countries are the first to attack opposing views. Take a look at the western countries as another example, you can bash anyone you want but the minute you mention the word jew, you lose your job, your live and imprisoned for live for "anti-semetism". Kayse, you should put the declaration of faith on top, other than that, excellent ideas.
and here it comes the Dhag-dheer horror stories Faqashs are on thier way albaabda inoo soo xidha, caruurta soo hooya, u should all know there's no such a thing as faqash, they are gone for good lool and if everyone who worked with Siad Bare is a Faqash then Sii'lanyo is one of them.
give the Guy a break he's only expressing his opinions u either agree or disagree wassup with all personal attacks
I personlly do not agree with what Kayse wrote about my region, he said the only reason we want the unity because of Qablism, if we were qablist then why not join puntand whose harti State and make everyone a favour. those people fought against colonisation in battles such as Afbakayle, Beerdhiga, Cagaarwayne, Daratoole, Dayuuraddii, Fardhidin, Jidbaale and Ruugga and because of that they viewed themselves as the sole protector of greater Somalia because of their huge loss of life and wealth.
however, I think the union part right now will only benefit for sectionist lets it face there only about 40% to 45% Harti live in the region and Majority of Iss**q clans want seperation not sure what Awdal wants. which means we have to put the guns down and participate either win or lose we cant that chance not till the rest of somalia is peace theres strong government.
40% to 45% hartis lool there are 17% or less hartis in SL. Sanaag is even out of the dispute except little place in far eastern sanaag populated by waroz
Sanaag has five districts you do the maths who are the majority.
Ceerigaabo
Badhan
Laasqoray
dhahar
Ceel Afwayn.
just because Waroos dont usually fight doesnt mean u can easily take thier lands.. that's why we dhuloz have to claim ceergabo district now we have more then 20 villages around the ceergabo and remember every village is a vital
dhulbantee alone were 28% when British came and counted the tribes in north somalia they only spread and have more pupolation now, add that to waroos and mj backing them up..
north somalia is ours as well as you yours you either eccept the unity or take what yours meaning your tribal territory.
somaliland with its intentions of being a country on old british colonial boundaries will not work in the long run as the independence issue splits the people along clan lines this is the truth i.e. issak are pro independence harti are pro union and with other dir in western somaliland (gadabursi) i think its 50/50 there must be a redrawn border of somaliland and somalia to suit the wishes of each clan i would not mind incorporating issak/dir territory into my djibouti to unite the twin clans and our afar friends lol
Just to say One word : JOKE !! the whole paper is joke to somalians and for the rest of the world.
No more Union !
What a poor article, no idea about politics and a child like understanding of economics. The problem is not that Somaliland press is turning Faqash, it is just that the quality is so poor. Articles are haphazard or bizzare. Also Somaliland press is run like a school newspaper, poor editorial line a mishmash of anything written in english.
Keyse, you finally made my day. This is a good indication that you haven't got the slightest idea of what so Somaliland stands for or what democracy is all about. Unlike the Faqash one-party government, the Republic of Somaliland does not tell its citizens the kind of political parties they are permitted to form or vote for, but parties are chosen by the Republic of Somaliland citizens.
Somaliland will allow a party similar to yours, when Israel gives a nod to a Nazi party or when South Africa gives the green light to a pro-apartheid party.
moron your anti Islam
Jackass you have no idea of what Islam is about. Islam is not about ignorance, hatred towards others or Darood specific religion, just like what we see in this piece, but about enlightenment.
Keyse is consumed of Somaliland hatred, because of people like him Somaliland is flourishing and Somalia is doomed to hell.
deeqa that's why Somalilanders are flocking to Mogadishu's university's like fly's around shit excuse my french if that's flourishing then i hate to see what the opposite looks like. Mogadishu a city that's been battered left right and center has better economy than hargaisa and most likely Kismayo against Berbera for goodness sake the spelling check doesn't even recognize your city or your so called country Somaliland
I think you are too engrossed with Somalia union hating…. Didn't you ever question the Somaliland government…
Everyone got their opinion and that's his opinion and ideology even though Somaliland is not interested in another ill fated and doomed union. But Kayse, Your flag needs re-arranging. The shahadah on top on a green strip or in the middle in black writing. Allahs name should never be on the bottom.
Thanks for your feedback and together we all going to share and exchange ideas, views, policies, suggestions and criticism till we find a solution for the Somali people.
Don't mind the kids attacking the website; they are the same people who claim there is freedom and democracy in Somaliland when what they say here and practice back home is the complete opposite.
The way to bring the few people who want separation is to not attack them and to stop calling them names like secessionist, Somali-diid and all those attacking terms. People who use this kind of language do not represent the union voice—they represent their own tribal views, its a case of action and reaction.
We going to build this union around the big Somali ego, bat everyone on the back and give them credit which will make them disarm and stop been so aggressive and on the attack.
We don't want to send an image of aggression which will only drive them away. We going to apply the art of persuasion. We will brand the new idea of Somali reunification. We will give the reunification a new image. We will improve our public relations and present the idea in a business style model and not on hardcore politics. In business, if you tell a person you can make them more money; everyone is in it, if we can show the Somalis that if we all come together; we can all win, majority of them will come together.
Its ideas, infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, economic policies and dialogue.
What is keeping our people apart is the lack of transportation and infrastructure. A railway, where the first year is completely FREE, would contribute so much, our people would mingle and see the boogeyman they used to hear—is just a myth.
People want ideas and policies and its up to Somali to open the door to innovation, strategic ideas and create a whole department for this, where every day men and women go to work to strategize new ways to bring the Somali people together without force and insults, without criticism and blaming.
Kayse you are my hero. i would vote for your Party Today if i could walahi. we need men like you in Politics. Support from Awdal Zaylac and Djibouti
I like thw way u write brother. I almost read every coment you wrote so far. you dont take sides. keep writting. you are genius.
pigs are more likely to fly than somaliland reuniting with somalia period
how many time do you have to repeat This lines “pigs more likely to fly” you keep repeating The last 12 month’s. That show your mentall status.
I agree with you Ali. he looks mental..
WELL SAID KAYSE SOON OR LATER THIS DELUSIONAL SECESSIONIST MINORITY WILL HAVE TO GIVE UP ON ITS DEMAND ONCE THE SOUTH OF SOMALIA GETS ITS HOUSE IN ORDER WHICH WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK SO
NO YOU AND YOUR FAQASH TROLLS MUST BE MENTALLY HANDICAPPED IF YOU HONESTLY THINK SOMALILAND WILL THROW AWAY ITS STABILITY AND INDEPENDENCE TO RETURN TO THE ZOO THAT IS SOMALIA THE UNION FAILED MISERABLY YOUR SO JEALOUS OF US YOU WANT TO DRAG SOMALILAND DOWN LOW TO YOUR LEVEL LOOOOOOL THAT'S WHY YOU ARE BARKING LIKE A DOG
LONG LIVE THE ISA*Q LED REPUBLIC OF SOMALILAND YEAH BABY
I had enough of what Kayse stands for including this new bogus SUP Party. However, enough to say that Kulmiye, UCID, Udub and the other new 6 parties are real democracies of both Islamism and Secular Nationalism put together and working as should to satisfy all known progressive democratization processes. There's no need to undermine the huge progresses established by the chief architects of the role model of the Somaliland of today since the liberation from the failed union in 1991. This Kayse dude should transport his inconsistency ideas to Somalia and Puntland where
maybe his SUP Party ideas might fit in, whereas Somaliland democracies have reached the
appreciable levels witnessed and approved by the IC key Govts global wide. NO Kayse, your new
SUP Party has no place in Somaliland.
Cheers.
This is one sick idea, and what you expect Kayse DOQON, I told you people many times:
"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
A fool like Kayse and all those Zoomalia who are agreeing with him are cluess about democratic system, what you expect Moryan, Warlords, and their offsprings.
Kayse DOQON's SUP will be acceptable when Iseal allows Nazi Party, or when Palastin allow Knesset. Or USA allows Islamic political party to participate their political system. So fools because Somaliland is a democratic country we will not allow unionist party who believes an idea that 97% of our people rejected all ready.
If the fools like Kayse love Zoomalia, then do not wast you time, and just go to Xamar or the hell hole of the world.
If you don't agree with just say that, but don't insult every one
I just want to ask you one question why do you so called S/Landers like to insult the rest of us Somali's
I can I Bet a million dollars you are Isaaq,
Your article merits some discussion on many topics. Some would argue you come across more of an idealist than a pragmatist. However, I think of your ideas as worthy of, at minimum, tabled for discussion. I agree with several of your points and on others I believe it will take herculean effort just to bring the various parties to the table. All in all, I give you an "A" for willingness to think outside the box.
ps: one day you will explain to me why the sudden conversion from pro-habashi to a Somali nationalist. I base this from reading some of your past threads. In fact, you used to call the majority clan in Djibouti some disparaging remarks. Why the change, brother?
hahahahahaha; true that first of all what I used to say against Djibouti were just to irritate the Djiboutians and were never anything against them.
I used to support Ethiopia because I was born there and spent most of my childhood there. I left as a child and only had fond memories of Ethiopia.
This year I went back and I discovered the reality. I saw how they treat Somalis and how the Somali State is like North Korea's demilitarized zone; basically you can't travel 1km without being checked or subjected to some form of discrimination.
The funny thing is too, those that I travelled with our family friends or close relatives and they searched me on the orders of some Tigray bosses. The dude that searched me for them was next day at my house having breaky with me.
So that's when I learnt that everyone is only after their bread and things are not as they appear when your in the Diaspora.
When I went to Somaliland, I discovered there is no government and ordinary people maintain the law and order. Police are no where to be seen unless sent to harass people.
They do not get paid meaning no government and rely on the little money they collect from people — Keen Ducaadi.
Trash is big problem in Hargeisa and this is a combination of corruption and lack of accountable government.
These things have changed me. Seeing the reality. When we are in the Diaspora we are fed with so much garbage and pictures shown to us are only of hotels and few nice house which stand on different corners of the city.
I have nothing against Djibouti, its growing remarkably and it has maintained stability in a turbulent region.
You got my respect for being man enough to admit your past transgressions. I, too, once came across as a clan-centric but that was play for the "audience". We all want to see success for all Somalis. I have no hate toward any Somali and you have some incredible insight about our region. Keep up the good work. Inshallah one day in the not so distant future we will get back Somali-Galbeed for all Somalis.
Only problem is the Somali Republic has been tried and tested. It failed miserably.
Whats written in this article is very idealistic and does not take into consideration whats happened the past 30 years.
Our thinking in Somaliland is best described by this quote;
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
I am a pragmatist, I believe having 5 Somali states, in the horn of Africa is more sensible then trying to great on superstate.
If the Arabs have 20 countries, people who have the same language, culture, religion.
Why can't Somalis have 5?
1 reason why the Arabs are not 1 country is simply because the West didn't want that to happen. They wanted to control the Arabs sins the days of the crusaders, and when they finally achieved that, they broke them into pieces so that it will be easier to control them. Same thing with Somalia, sins the Portuguese times , it also wanted to invade our lands, but to their amazement found that the Somali people were/are warriors. We even fought the longest war against Europe,when their was a scramble for Africa, and the first country in the whole continent to be used aerial bombardment against, which without it, we would of never been colonized . NOW YOU KNOW WHY LIKE THE ARABS WE WHERE DIVIDED BECAUSE UNITED WE ARE TOO STRONG AND AGAIN TO THEIR AMAZEMENT ARE STILL STRONG DIVIDED
becouse Arabs number 350 million folks while we Somali folks only number max 15 million thats why
libban 1 To tell you the truth the only real Arabs are actually the Saudi Arabians and even there its mixed its just the Arabs are the majority because its their true homeland the rest of the so called Arab worlds just speak the language obviously there are Arabs that also live there but its a minority. 2 that 350 mill is the present combined and we are most likely Somalia/Somaliland/Ogaden/Djibouti/NEF and the diaspora combined somewhere in the region of 25 to 30million believe it or not. 3 you are confused brother that still don't answer the question of why we where divided like the Arabs unless we was also a more bigger threat united. 4 Escotor if you only new the full scale of the natural resources of the whole inhabited Somali regions in the Horn it will blow your mind my friend and i ain't just talking about OIL/GAS just Somalia got the second biggest oil reserves after Nigeria and that's on land i heard there is even more offshore
Also arabs have More land and resources than us.
were are MUCH more related to each other than the Arabs. Not all Arabs are actually truly Arab. Somalis are probably the most homogeneous groups on the planet. In the past 30 years, every Somali tribe underwent great trials and tribulations, making the Isaaq tribe of the north not exempt. I truly believe that we can unite and learn to cooperate with each other insh'Allah. :)
@ Keyse
"When I went to Somaliland, I discovered there is no government and ordinary people maintain the law and order. Police are no where to be seen unless sent to harass people. "
This quote comes to mind; "
A liar begins with making falsehood appear like truth, and ends with making truth itself appear like falsehood"
by William Shenstone
I've been visting Hargeisa for the past 10 years on an almost yearly bases. what you wrote is pure BS.
The funny thing here is the crazy, egomaniac Kayse has written this piece, he writes all the supporting comments to his piece under different names, but when I checked it is Keyse thanking himself, praising himself and agreeing with himself. The question is what does everybody else thinks about Keyse.
He is a sick person. who has no clue of what he is talking about.
Hows KAYSE a sick person for calling a free and fair election where the constitutions says anyone can anticipated be it secularist religious nationalist or unionist unless you nationalist minority's know if that ever happens it will be buy buy to your mafia run equivalent to a nomad trying to sell a dead carcass to a Arab independence project. Mr retarded its plain and simple what this man is saying instead of directing people by the gun let them and not just few people choose their destiny if you don't then everyone knows what happens to dictators they can only push their people so far before their's a revolt especially this one tribe who once faced that barrel should of know better not to point at others
Keyse,
We have being reading Somalilandpress to know your style and stupid tactics. It does not matter how many times you comment postively you will always remain moron.
Mr SUP. are U a SOMALI BORN CITIZEN OR U OBTAINED RECENTLY A CITIZENSHIP.. YOU ARE LOCKED UP BY TRIBE DON't your comments with out tilling Tribe or Clan ,be Shame and use ur Educational Standard .u be proud of ur History as a SOMALILANDER IF U REMEMBER WE HAD INDEPENDENCE IN 1960, With free and multiparty Election till 1969. If u remember our old party formation in 1960 why don'T U CONSIDER Tribal Party. in other way can ask u .if U R NEW Party Tribal as u fingered the existing parties in Somali land R Tribal parties???? while u need or have interest to develop ur Nation in equal standard do not mention tribe in ur media view. u can not be civilized politician if always raise up Tribal. Tribe has no room in politics. I think u r a new born politician and have no political background. once a nation elects a president they most trust him and support him ,IF u believe the Elected President made or make a huge mistake should be corrected by the house of elders.and the Parliament. i advice all somalilander opinion writers to adhere low and order and respect there elected Government. mean while u knocked the door of somalia.? if u r interested to unite with somalia this is ur personal opinion and interest . but may be the majority does not need the re unity of somalia.A n Nation in the World has wright to accept or refuse any National blueprint national profile. I am using simple ENGLISH IN ORDER u understand Somali landers never give up again to be dominated or misruled by other somalia .u r always free to change ur mind and choose different past or different future.Ignore Word Trabe it uncivilized word for the new era
best regrds
progress peace. health and prosperity is the word that u pray and god bless all Somalia/somalilanders
abyan
To all unionist, don t Forget Somaliland did the first step for the union of 5 somali regions by voluntarily joining Somalia in 1 July 1960. This time, i swear u Somaliland Will not make the Same mistake again and as long as Somali regions of Ethiopia and Kenya then Djibouti stay within their colonial border, Somaliland Will défend it lost sovereignty. Somaliland Will Be the last member to enter if union is back. But unionist are coward as they don have courage to bring back these 3 other somali regions and they just run behind Somaliland. Shame on you.
so you want to fall pray on former imperialist powers? SHAME ON YOU!! The divided us up for a reason, but you are too white ego-romanticist to understand…
this is no sense at all. somaliland will stand alone no u turn
SUP NEW PARTY WANT VOTE FROMM SOMALI LANDERS? I have read u r long sheet opinion which I understand that u do not even t have any qualification to have a new party?? plse i advice u not to speak about multiparty. u have no political background ,while u r party not entitled as a treble party why other parties are treble and u r new party is organic Democratic. shame ,there is an Arabic proverb saying > a person named Noor. but he is very extreme dark /c so somebody else heard the name which he is calling him Noor.? so he asked him if this person named Noor ? then how is u r Black? U HAVE no any Political Institution back ground, u r politically naked from political Technic, how somali landers give u a vote and u already declare that u r very interested to reunite with Somalia. u never live in a free societies and ur civilization standard below zero. plse find out a college that u can at least learn party Training course , to avoid verbal order be a somali lander or non, any body who want to raise his opinion and comments through the media ,he start his words to attack the Elected Government. 80% of somalilanders they only attack th eir Government. simply. jealousy is the only skill they experienced .by the way if u criticize u President and say tribal words don't u Respect at least the 80% of somalilander Elected him. u r always free to change ur mind and choose a different past or different future.
by Abyan
Dont B-S only 75% voted for him and do you know why that number is so high? its because Firstly every somali Worships his/her tribe. Silanyo would not get past the 60 %mark if it wasnt for the Dhulbahante's, How you may ask? its because silanyo is reer habar jeclo right?( I think that right) and habar jeclo and dhulbahanto's have always been mixing more than than dhuloz-with hartis, its because they live so close to each other and share the same Land when over the weather changes they move and change their land. The dhulozz thought that silanyo would be tribally the better option for him.
BTW my mums dhulo my dads habarjeclo but im SOMALI. nuff said.
And why are the S/L still have a grudge for the 50k that died when almost a million died in Somalia
PS let kayse have his opinion, i thought somaliland was a DEMOCRACY? it just gets to show how much of a "DEMOCRACy" s/l really is.
The only reason why i dont support s/l is because i believe in the unification of all muslim brothers and especially when we are 99% muslim nation
horta i heard some dhuloz voted for Sii'lanyo and chased Fasal ali waraabe when tried to go Lasnood, but are they nuts thoe Sii'lanyo is well known qabilist especially hates HY of what happened 1994..
Yes its a known fact but HY gave him a chance thinking by now he has out grew out of all that animosity and hate. He can't get over the fact that he couldn't defeat Siad Bare and Tuur did it in such a short time by mobilizing more forces against Siad Bare specially Aideed. There is nothing Silanyo can do now, his days are numbered and his tribalism has never been worse than today. Thats why HY are having a meeting, they will organize each others just in case for another conflict.
my dear friend why u raise up Tribal issue ? if u r Asaak u have to understand that we are one Party clan which does not make different once in war against ISAAK. SO if ur ISSAK U HAVE
TO value ur self as one ISAAK AND HERO AT SAME TIME.,IN THAT respect be civilized person and for get the back dated events??///// better work 4 Rapport of our people interest . u have to work how to composure .the left behind events. only u must continua to strive 4 greater effeminacy /progress/and peace. U must show courteous behavior. that is the only advice I can raise .in order to avoid verbal order.
best regards
Abyan
First unify u r own home then u r ….////////// step step u walk but do not jump high ??? I hope u understand what I mean???? be realistic and honest to u r self .then development and progress will do its self .///////
tks
Abyan