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Somalia Set to End Failed State Status
May 24, 2012 · 71 Comments
Photo: Reconstruction begins at Somalia’s parliament, May 2012 (VOA)
ADDIS ABABA — Somalia’s main political entities have ended three days of often-heated talks, saying they remain committed to a political process leading to a post-transitional government by August.
Participants say the United Nations-sponsored talks were surprisingly congenial given the number of contentious issues facing Somalia’s often-hostile clans.
In the end, the six parties agreed to put some difficult issues, and many of the less important ones, aside in the interest of keeping to a timetable for creation of a post-transitional government in less than 90 days.
Transitional Prime Minister Abdiweli Mohamed Ali, considered the driving force behind the so-called Road Map timetable, said the parties had been motivated by the desire to end Somalia’s reputation as a failed state. “Sometimes you can have some kind of heated discussions, but ultimately all signatories have shown they are committed to ending this transition on time to take Somalia to the next level and to bring Somalia back to community of nations as a useful member as it has always been,” he said.
The agreement signed at the end of the talks commits all sides to a rigorous schedule for rebuilding the state.
It calls for formation of a Constituent Assembly within four weeks, and adoption of a provisional constitution by July 10th. That will be followed 10 days later by the swearing in of a new parliament, which will complete the transition by electing a president before the transition deadline of August 20th.
Transitional President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed, who could lose his post in the process, hailed the new spirit of cooperation among clans and factions, some with long histories of squabbling. He spoke in Somali with an interpreter. “All road map signatories came with goodwill and good faith and open mind and we have done good work together. And we have made new commitment to work closely for the remaining time of transition,” he said.
The African Union special envoy for Somalia, former Ghanaian president Jerry Rawlings, hailed the new attitude that seems to be bringing Somalia back from 20 years of lawlessness and misery. He said as recently as six months ago, few would have taken seriously talk of a functioning post-transition government.
Rawlings said part of the credit goes to Prime Minister Ali, an academic who returned to his native country from the United States less than a year ago. “Some kind of chemistry, as I’ve described it, some kind of dynamics seems to have taken place that is bringing the body politic together. They seem to be jelling, and the only way I can describe it in one word is that the political process has finally given us some hope,” he said.
Several participants also credited Somalia’s improved security environment as a key factor in creating a stable political atmosphere.
A newly energized African Union military force has cleared Mogadishu of al-Qaida-linked extremists for the first time in years. And as the meetings were ending, word was received from the battlefield that pro-government forces are routing the extremists in another of their strongholds northwest of the capital.
VOA
May 23, 2012
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thank you somalilandpress for the positive article and not behaving like western papers who bring somalia down. i hope somaliland continues its good progress like coca cola plant insha allah
thanks bro/sis from Puntland. I am from Somaliland and I hope all the Somalis succed. Believe me the western need us more than we need them. We have oil everywhere in Somali places, good sea, allot of livestock, we have Allah (yeay :) and we have our business minded people. the only think what we dont have is not being influenced by others. We are all Somalis, and we need to work with eachother at some level and help eachother and help eventually all muslim countries, like our brothers in Pakistan, Afganistan, Yemen etc…
I wouldn't bother to think of any workable outcome on a 90 days timetable given the huge dnamic
crisis of the all inclusive Somalia. It's understood that the TFG PM DR Gaas is the force behind this
last minute gamble to keep things moving. The big question to be asked is..will it work to satisfy all
the complex issues across the chessboard. I doubt it would work. Eventually it might be possible to follow
the foot steps of the new Egypt under the leadership of the Muslim brotherhood which could be a far
better strategy than this 90 days nuisance and the roadmaps 1+2 follow ups. . OH, just a hint
worth mentioning.
Cheers.
cheeeeeeers.
gas may be part of The story whole force behind This is EU,U.S.That is why it will work spare $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ These nations could spend.
This artificial peace cannot be maintain by 19,000 foreign troops in Mogadishu and south-central Somalia and at the cost of the international community of US$ 1,050 per month – per AU troop…is this not sustainable and history has witness this before with the UN troop deployment in 1993-96 and most recent Ethiopian invasion of 2006-2009.
A real, long lasting and cost effective method can only be gained by Somalis and not by foreigners who only seeks to fulfil their own political interests, whether it be by profiteering over the Somali conflict by Uganda or by maintaining the same political status like Kenya and Ethiopia.
19,000 foreign troops in Mogadishu? stop lying to urself man theres only 12,000 thousands & half of them are djibouti & ogadens. your just another hater who hate to see somalia achieving peace & reconciliation.
mogadishu has seen its longest period of peace since the overthrow of mohamed siad barre thanks to foreign troops. there wer more than half a million foreign troops in Iraq & afghanistan, vast majority wer American & other countries, but today the americans are still struggling to achieve a clear victory with their mighty weapons.
The amisom are not even capable of militarily defeating al shabaab, they are not familiar with the territory, hideout, al shabaab snipers etc. al shabaab were defeated the day wen the Sufi Somali factions of ASWL was formed.
In fact, all the credit should go to ASWL, Somali Nation Army & Puntland Intelligence Service
GeezerFrmPuntland…Ignorance is blessed!! And I think you know this very well. Please donot try to deliberately twist my FACTS. I clearly mentioned 19,000 AU troops in Mogadishu (12,000) and SOUTH-CENTRAL Somalia (7,000+more of Kenyan and Ethiopia who both are fighting under the banner of the AU exploiting the fact that they are working for their own interest and deploying their hand-picked puppets to control territory they captured) you idiot!!
ali.
need to understand first before jumping out of conclusion,somalis need current i mean currently beace forcce, which if i have to choice will bring muslim nation beace force,unfortunately At The moment not The case.1993 it was different compare today somalia Those days we had blood Thrust warlords tribest no Agenda but Ethnic cleansing,as They said what comes around it goes around They get sick of fighting put wounded and need medication.SOMALIS could solve Their problems first five year when barre left They did not do That more distruction They choice.so once you have complete collapse system not easy to stand on your feet, The bloody arabs never come help becuase of fear from Their masters EU-U.S,when turkey start helping ever one wants to help somalis now.somalis should work very close with turkey so Atleast keep at bay These vultures.EU & U.S decided to help not a good faith but Their own interest to confine Al-shabab before They reach our territory.it’s good chance for The somalis if They play hard ball.
@mohamed cheer
Turning positive things into negative thinks makes you a damn hater & qablist. i wonder why are you so jealous of the peace emerging through out Somalia!!!
yoo brother stop the hate im isaak n i love all somalis not just my clan. 1 of my best friends is an MJ and his sister goes out with me 4 tyym so i suggest lets all build up our greater somalia under the banner of islam peace love and brotherhood :)
come on abdiwahad stop using male name your chick.
Mohamed cheers not cheer. I thought I have always given certain beneficial comments contributing to
good solutions. If you don't like them there arecould be a whole others who probably might find my bloggs useful
and helpful. You and I have different ways and ambitions on the general affairs of pan somalism.
Don't personally look at me look at yourself and others of your kind.
Cheers.
Somalila will always be a falied state nothing will change. i think somalila wont have a goverment in the next 50 years there is no point of just dreaming, inorder for somalia to be a safe state is to have a funcational goverment which wont happen if they countiue having corruption and piracy around them. Somaliland has ahd peace for 21 years masha'allah somalia have to follow our example. we set up a goverment with trust and somailanders have united to make an excellent economy all by ourselves. Somaliland is an african succes story.
'GeezerFrmPutland' just go to hirran.net stop hating on somaliland. Putland is a corrupted state which has 95% of its economic income is from piracy. Fix up asap.
What peace in s/land killing innocent people arresting journalist your dreaming The soor you wake up The better.
If the south (somalia) can be honest and share with the north (somaliland) than I wont mind being united with the south. ps. somaliland has to reunite with somalia ALONG with djibouti, somali region of ethiopia and NFD
most of us garxajis folks dont mind unity if the conditions are right :)
Brother, please stop preaching lies. No one want unity with Somalia. Also, we don't hate somalia and we wish the best for them.
We can share trades and other good things like EU…But we want to have our own government (mamul).
Burcawii u dont want to unite with somalia coz u from easern parts of togdheer (bariga burco) but who are u speak for others..lol
Sis Khaatumo, I'm not from bariga burco…lol, but I love them because, like any other somalilanders, they work hard to contribute to SL progress. I'm from "hawd", and in particular, from a city called "Gashaamo" if you have heard of it.
The reason I said we need our own government is because I believe it will be much beneficial for both side. After all, we are one people and we will always have a strong relationship when it comes to trade, development, cooperation… and as a bonus wallaweyn will be able to enter SL with no Visa (special status) lol. I don't see anything wrong with having our own government. Seriously, Just think of it. Everything else is the same but just to seperate governments.
Sorry, meant "just two seperate governments."
lool burcawi walalo…. u from Gashamo? isnt part of Ethiopia i guess am more LANDER (whateva that means) than u..
besides north and sourth somalia are one country right now technically despite what some people may say..
khaatumo citizen,your right put stop using too much ina-abti because They are quite a lot of jack ***es narrow minded one vision shifty persones
Warya, stop the jelousy. Inabtiday ha isku kaya dirin.
lool Burcawi usheeg dee waa jelousy..
Somali region of Ethiopia is depend on strong united somalia and Djibouti on the other hand is an independent country so its up to them if they want to unite with us… unlike north somalia which in borders of somalia technically.. NFD dont know anythin about it.. lol
This is probably Kayse changing shirts.
mohahahaha
Everyone that doesn't support the Council is "Kayse" to you including Ismail Bubba. Your clueless, there are millions for unity in north Somalia, they just waiting for things to settle in the South.
for the conference regarding the Somali Constitution and Road Map process. do you believing this process will go so smoothly, and elections actually will take place.
@farhan.
Nothing will be smooth ride but bambi ride,any project need to start some where, somali situation it’s difficult one put much brither now becuase whole world want to help including turkey.first stablish functioning goverment Than after few years held direct election from The people electing Their member of parliament & president.
@ Farhan inshaallah it will be successful and peace will come election free and fair will happen inshaallah always have hope glory of Somalia Republic will come back and every citizen will be satisfy under new democratic Somalia inshaallah.
@Xarago and Mo ahmed
how????? and by whom,…..Two months, for this process…. uuum…. I would Love to. but I have a hard time believing this process will go so smoothly, and elections actually will take place.
FarhanCN.
You already runing around red card before The game start.who said it will be smooth ride, quite alot of obstacles ahead such as landmind-uneven & muddy roads it’s just give you example mate.
*Elders meeting in mogadishu represent whole parts of somalia,They will select who will be in The new parliament for The next four years,later This month elders will go turkey another meeting which is good.
*The new parliament will elect new president in August or late september his term four years.
*President will choice his PM & effective small group of ministers functioning goverment will start with The watchful eyes of The world.
*when member of The parliament & The president finish Their term,by That time somali people will be ready to elect directly who will represent Them in The parlaiment & new president.
can This happen in Three-four month’s? it will for number of reasons EU & U.S-turkey-arab league are backing & involve financialy This issue.
@Abdiwahab
your truly rite bro unity is the only solution for somalia, we shouldn't divide ourselves into mini tribal state.
mogadishu, hargeisa and Garoowe can share power, resources and decision-making etc.
somalis are all mixed of different clans, im mix of H@wiye iyo d@@rood & my wife iz iss@q she lives in hargeisa, my sis from my dad second wife is pure d@@rood (mj) she married to iss@q bro. my friend is abg@l he recently married iss@q girl in london.
@GeezerfrmPuntland.
sometime you better off keep your mouth shut cuz you have no clue what your saying,what is This, married this married That not good to bring your private family live here bro, somalis are intertwined society if They would respest That it would not a war.
i guess Somalilanders wont say Failed State anymore..
ooo Yea? From failed state back to un trusteship like 1948 upto 1960 July Independence.
Nayahee ma waxad tahay Soolgirl?
Cheers.
gaacho go to hirran.net
I'd say it's a step forward but Somalia is not out of the woods yet..
Osman Qaal
khaatumo sitizen, Somalilanders did not named it Failed State, the world did and put it on the world map. So, they have to covince the world otherwise.
In all fairness Somalilanders don't any grudges against Somalia and we really want them to get better. All they have to do is to concentrate on their affairs and leave Somaliland alone.
… to convince the world, that is.
gobaad walalo Somaliliand (north Somalia ) is their least worries they got enough on the plate already..
We just got to wait and see how long this so-called peace will last. As I have mentioned before and will see again, peace can only be solved by Somalis and only Somalis. I do not consider Mogadishu to be in peace when the city is relent on 12,000 AU troops…? and now the international community is importing another thousand police officers from Sierra Leone…? Is this peace??
I feel for those thousands of Somalis who put whatever little belongings they had onto whatever transportation they could secure and left whatever shelter they had to escape the expect fight between the extremist and the African Mercenaries. Both these guys don’t care about these people. they just don’t care about what happens to them. Two things. I pray for them to have peace in their homes just like do in Somaliland. And I thank the creator for that peace. Folks it is hard to load your belongings on a donkey cart every time an alien decides to shoot another alien while you’re in the middle.
waxan arkaa xamar oo marba gees isugu yacaysa alla maxay waalidu ka badatay allow sahal amuuraha
Cheers.
The Council in west Hargeisa can no longer claim that it is the only region in Somalia with some degree of law and order because right now most parts of Sool and Togdheer including its second largest town Buhoodle are under siege and most people have fled.
West Hargeisa Council led by Silanyo can no longer play the role of "good cop" and claim it should get "recognition" or assistance because "Somalia is the bad cop and peace Council will be good for the region".
This argument is not relevant today and they need to come up with something new because Somalia is no longer under a transition as of August. They have under two months to disarm and restore the blue flag of Somalia in northern Somalia before the locals take matters to their own hands.
Somalis are reunifying and moving on from the twenty year old hate, will the Council in Hargeisa accept the realities on the ground or will they continue to barracked themselves in Morgan's former house?
Whatever the case, as a Somali from Hargeisa, we will do everything we can to ensure two subclans do not hijack us. We will let the Somali people and government know they have our support. We will let the UN know, we do not support separation from our own people.
If the two subclans want to protest about something that took place over 21 years ago, they can protest outside their homes but not claim North Somalia as their venue.
How Come you are alone in this effort where is the rest.
Ahmed,
I think even SLPress is on his side lol seriously I think SLPress is pro-union maybe soon they will change their name to SomaliPress kkk
looooooool we need more people like Kayse in somali society
lol… I start to think that he manages somalilandpress.com.
Does anyone knows who manages this site?
@kayse + other sensible viewers.
if you look very closely These two comments from Ahmed and amal The image similer some person.no wonder some of The people on This forum not real genuine debaters.
Kayse
You are correct, but let’s became a realistic, I love Somalia, but I don’t think this process will go smoothly, and elections actually will take place in this timeline. how all these agreed issues can be happen with in less than 3 months,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Dear khaatumo sitizen
They have got enough Kayse like folks already in Somalila, perhaps you're in denial.
Hint, failed state doesn't mean the land, it means the inhabitants.
Osman Qaal
Kayse god willing we should watch and live up to see what comes out of the latest TFG Addis
communique and how that works. BTW you are too hot on Somaliland, what's your take on Djibouti?
Did I hear Kenya is withdrawing their military mission on Somalia or just a bluff. Will see what happens
in Istanbul Turkey June 2012, TFG in August 2012 and thereafter?
Cheers.
.
Separation will not happen unity is very important, even if SL come to the table and said we want president turns and the capital to be Hargesya South is willing to do that because Somalia can't afford any more dividing, unity is the solution.
@xarago.
every region in somalia will get Their fairshare not more not less.most nothern somalia will remain in somalia,s/land They can walk around in The wilderness long long long time to come.
Somalia can be united again but along as the south acknowlege the crimes against hunality commited against the north during the 1980's! Second. the south must realise that power and decision making Unity will NOT be made in Mogadishu and we will not live under a city state like Mogadishu in which all of Somalia's wealth, taxes from major foreign currency earners will just be spent beautifying Mogadishu at the expense of the north…history will not repeat itself again.
Ask Hargeisa (if WE decide to negotiate) and ask Garowe!!!
Somalia can be united again but along as the south acknowledge the crimes against humanity committed against the north during the 1980's! Second. the south must realise that power and decision-making Unity will NOT be made in Mogadishu and we will not live under a city-state like Mogadishu in which all of Somalia's wealth, taxes from major foreign currency earners will just be spent beautifying Mogadishu at the expense of the north…history will not repeat itself again.
Ask Hargeisa (if WE decide to negotiate) and ask Garowe!!!
Some of the people here call this psychosis a debate. Some see it as something to cheer. But the reality is what this creature is saying has nothing to do with debating. Any sensible person will know that it is a propaganda aimed Somalilanders accomplishments. But from what I it will back fire and will poison the minds of millions of Somalis on both sides. This insignificant warm is Munaafiq and will cause fitnah
among the people. Most of what he is saying, I remember were talk spewed by the Siad Bare Radio Mogadishu. And as a result we know what happened in the name of Somalia. They tried like Hitler to eradicate million of people because of the tribe they belong to. I believe this guy is an incarnation of Siad bare. You say debate I say stupidity and dangerous. Those trible minded form Xaartumo who cheering this guy I would say you did this before and you didn’t get anywhere. Don’t make the same mistake twice. This psychopath will not come to Buuuhutleh and be your dream come true. He is an insignificant ungodly, mean spirited Munaafiq.
you live in a dark ages lying to your self & fear in reality & pls don’t Throw on The table what happen 25 years ago i was one of The rebel who liberated hargiesa i am s/lander put not stupid one, let’s be realistic here becuase runing away your shadow will not solve anything,no recognition is coming no real development high unemployment banging our head on brick wall nothig is coming out.twenty years ago somalis were different today no tribe is stronger Than other one
I find it funny when someone says "no real development" in SL. Well, how about the followings:
-Over 21 years of peace, peace, peace… (no wars).
-All level of educational instituations (public and private).
-Hospitals and small clinics.
-Improvements in the infrastructure development.
-Attracting foreign investers.
-Growth in the private sector and attracting international companies.
-System of government that is democratic which led to the first democratic election in the region for years.
-Winning the title "Best Kept Secret" and not "Failed States".
All these achievments were accomplished because of Sland governments and citizens secrifies and hard work. We could have done even much more with recognition (which is coming soon). And this is not the full list as there are more accomplishment that have been made.
So please don't dare discredit or complain about SL achievments.
well i agree mr berbera some of his comments.This’s what happens when people live in isolation beace does not only exist last twenty years in s/land but also Puntland and now mother of all mogadishu becoming more stable by The day.if all This development exist why high unemploymen? no need to be Albert Einstein to figure out,it’s no longer best kept secret put best expose two sub-clan regional addmin denying own citizen free speech & free Press arresting political activist.
EU and US are having high number of unemployment with all the economy they have and access to loans… So if this is the only point you have, I will advise you try to find something else to attack SL with. SL is rising like shining star whether you like it or not.
Just worry about help fixing the "Failed State" instead of critisizing "Best Kept Secret". Remember, this is what the IC call SL.
U.S & EU current high unemployment put still Their own citizen have Access medicare,education,housing including you who is benefiting.s/land regional addmin arresting & killing it’s own people no free speech let alone Afford all These benefits no comparison These two.IC did not said That put people with mentall double disorder believe That.well fail state it’s no longer exist anymore mention by UN press.we will rehabilitate Those people kept in a dark by This small addmin.
The killing you are talking about is in the south and not SL. People are being shot on the street and everyone else is walking like if nothing happend. SL is doing great with what it has. Not only this, but it is also helping somali refugees from the south and contributing with the IC to help the starving somali people.
You are just making fool of yourself by trying to discredit SL good work. It is no secret that SL is the "Best Kept Secret".
Either your brain cells not working or living double delusion life.you should know by now news & information fly faster Than strong wind every body aware killing innocent people in hargiesa & The war nothern somalia so hold your feet on The ground.well somali refugee are very where including in Puntland put They never mention This,Those small refugee live outskits naso-hablood addmin are The poorest of The poor.i suggest you get some help ASAP becuase once i hear These words “best kept secret & we are country”That shows your are someone living different orbit.
No innocent people were killed in Hargeysa. In fact, some somaliland citizens tried to take the law in their own hand and end up killing SL soldiers. Despite of their action, SLanders are still making sure they will have a fair trial. This is the type of democracy and freedom the Slanders are enjoying in their country.
Somaliland achievment is also acknowledged and appreciated by a lot of southerns because they send their families to live in SL so their kids can go to schools, have access to hostpitals and keep them safe.
Get a life and get your house in order before you come and critisize the "Best Kept Secret".
Tell all These lies to foreigners i am not That,seven civilain been shot point blank by hargiesa mililia 17 innocent people arrested without fair trail,put AU & UN will send delegation soon to see welfare of This people & probably to see “best kept secret underground detention centre prison”.
you can’t compare s/land region whole south Acually it’s other way around more somalilouder seeking Education & employment in The south.
All the best mate i have work to do not like you unemployed.
I'm happy to hear that you actually work and not in government assistant.
Goodluck.
Sabriye,
I think you get agitated whenever you hear SL is the "Best Kept Secret". Well, I have a good news for you. Because of all the progress the country has achieved, IC also call SL "Success Story". So I can use the second one if this will make you feel little better…lol
Somalila will always be a falied state nothing will change. i think somalila wont have a goverment in the next 50 years there is no point of just dreaming, inorder for somalia to be a safe state is to have a funcational goverment which wont happen if they countiue having corruption and piracy around them. Somaliland has had peace for 21 years masha'allah somalia have to follow our example. we set up a goverment with trust and somailanders have united to make an excellent economy all by ourselves. Somaliland is an african succes story.
'GeezerFrmPutland' just go to hirran.net stop hating on somaliland. Putland is a corrupted state which has 95% of its economic income is from piracy. Fix up you gaacho guy.