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Op-Ed:Somaliweyn-2.0–From Nationalism to Subterfuge & Conspiracy

November 22, 2010   ·   38 Comments

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Introduction
There is a new version of the failed concept of Greater Somalia, which I have named “Somaliweyn-2.0”, being promoted by a disparate alliance of Somali Diaspora intellectuals that are hostile to Somaliland’s independence for nationalistic or other reasons, and desperate (dare one say failed?) Somaliland politicians that sought political office and financial gain through participation in the successive, so called ‘governments’ for Somalia that have singularly failed to bring peace and governance to that sorry country. I have chosen the moniker of “Somaliweyn-2.0” for this new version of Greater Somalia for several, important reasons. Firstly, it is important to distinguish it from the nationalist impulse of the 1950s/60s to establish a pan-Somali state which would unite all the Somali inhabitants of the Horn of Africa region (HOA), since this new formulation is not motivated by Somali nationalism, nor does it seek to unite all the Somali people of the HOA into one state.

Secondly, the motivations of the groups promoting this version of Greater Somalia are as disparate as the groups themselves. The Diaspora intellectuals support the concept for several reasons: firstly, it provides a rationale for their continued, although irrational, insistence upon the existence of the erstwhile Somali Republic despite the all too evident facts on the ground; secondly, it provides for a mechanism whereby Somaliland’s (SL) success in peace-making and establishing stable, democratic governance can be brought to bear in stabilising Somalia; thirdly, it provides a rationale for acknowledging SL’s success in conflict resolution and in establishing the only functioning democracy in the HOA without acknowledging the country itself! With regard to the Somaliland politicians that are part of the ‘government’ of Somalia, their motivation is quite simple – Somaliweyn-2.0 provides them with a mechanism whereby they can seek to maintain political relevance (and hopefully the slim chance of a career) as well as a route to return home as something other than venal charlatans seeking forgiveness for decrying and sabotaging the evident desire of their people for independence.

What is Somaliweyn-2.0?
Somaliweyn-2.0 comprises, in essence, the following components aimed at re-establishing the erstwhile Republic:
• A federal structure incorporating a ‘significant’ (whatever that may mean) degree of regional autonomy;
• Establishment of Hargeisa as the capital of the new Republic;
• The first President of the new Republic to be the leader of SL (possibly the current President of SL, Ahmed Mohamed Mahmoud “Silanyo”);
• Guarantee of SL holding either the Presidency of Premiership in future governments of the Republic;
• More equal (50/50?) distribution of Parliamentary seats between SL and Somalia.

Clearly, this formulation is designed to address the inequalities of the terms of the hasty union in 1960 between ex-British Somaliland and ex-Italian Somaliland, when the ex-British Protectorate rushed into union with the ex-Italian colony in a frenzy of nationalistic fervour with no negotiations or pre-conditions. What the architects of Somaliweyn-2.0 fail to recognise, however, is that the people of SL did not fight a ten year war of liberation from the genocidal, military dictatorship of Siyad Barre, endure several years of clan warfare and painstakingly build a new nation from the ground up with little or no outside help, in order to renegotiate the union of 1960.

The architects of Somaliweyn-2.0 also fail to understand that the people of Somaliland started the journey to reclaim their statehood in 1981, having laid to rest, once and for all, the Greater Somalia dream for which they had sacrificed their statehood. The calculated genocide of the dictatorship, not to mention the colonial status under which SL was governed by the Mogadishu regime during the previous 12 years was eloquent testimony to the death of this dream. The principal difference between the original dream of Greater Somalia and Somaliweyn-2.0 is that the former was the nationalist rationale underlying the creation of the Somali Republic in 1960 as the first step in the unification of the Somali people of the HOA, whereas the latter is a cynical construct aimed at conning the people of Somaliland into surrendering their hard won peace, stability and representative governance in favour of re-unification with a lawless and anarchic Somalia that seems incapable of forging a modus operandi for conflict resolution, peaceful co-existence and the re-establishment of the state.

Subterfuge & Conspiracy
The promoters of Somaliweyn-2.0 know full well that making such proposal openly to the people of SL will be met with mass derision and unequivocal rejection. Thus, they seek to promote their proposal behind closed doors and away from public scrutiny and debate within SL, although its adherents among Diaspora intellectuals freely promote it on the internet. However, the success of the Kulmiye Party in winning the SL Presidency at the recent elections has emboldened the politician-promoters of this doomed proposal, since Mr. Silanyo, the new SL President, has made no secret of his adherence to Somaliweyn while he was Chairman of the SNM – the liberation movement that evicted the Siyad Barre dictatorship from SL. The promoters of Somaliweyn-2.0 hope that Mr. Silanyo’s pro-Somaliweyn views during his leadership of the SNM, coupled with the inducement of the Presidency of Somalia, will secure his support for their proposal. This is a very dangerous and short-sighted gambit which imperils the very peace, security and stability of SL which distinguishes it from the Somalia it is being induced to rejoin.

Firstly, whatever his own, personal views may be (and I, for one, applaud him for being forthright and open in his views on Somaliweyn, especially during an election campaign), Mr. Silanyo is the President of SL and, as such, he has sworn to uphold the constitution of the country and defend it against foreign and domestic enemies. Article 1 of the SL Constitution states:
The country which gained its independence from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on 26th June 1960 and was known as the Somaliland Protectorate and which joined Somalia on 1st July 1960 so as to form the Somali Republic and then regained its independence by the Declaration of the Conference of the Somaliland communities held in Burao between 27th April 1991 and 15th May 1991 shall hereby and in accordance with this Constitution become a sovereign and independent country known as “The Republic of Somaliland”.

while Article 2 states:
Sovereignty resides in the people who shall exercise it in accordance with the Constitution and other laws.

Thus, Mr. Silanyo is not in a position to further the agenda of Somaliweyn-2.0; he is in fact required by the law of the land to actively and forcefully oppose it on pain of impeachment. Further, the near unanimous public antipathy in SL to any form of political union with Somalia would result in open revolt and widespread civil unrest in the country, should the Silanyo government be perceived as entertaining or supporting such a proposal. The promoters of Somaliweyn 2.0, particularly the discredited SL politicians which went to Mogadishu in search of positions and financial gain, are very much aware of this public antipathy towards their proposal – hence they are careful to only discuss it in private with carefully selected individuals (within and outside the Silanyo administration) whom they trust. It is this whispering campaign behind closed doors that has given rise to the atmosphere of subterfuge and conspiracy which is so damaging to the Silanyo administration that it threatens to de-legitimise it.

The recent sojourn in Hargeisa of Osman Jama Ali “Kaluun” (“Osman the Fish”, one of the above mentioned politicians who is wanted for treason in SL), and his subsequent departure from Hargeisa and arrival in London, both on the same days as President Silanyo departed and arrived in the respective destinations has fuelled the atmosphere of distrust and subterfuge. One cannot help but wonder why “the Fish” was not detained and prosecuted upon his arrival in Hargeisa – after all he is a wanted man? One cannot also help but be flabbergasted by “the Fish’s” statement that he met with President Silanyo in Djibouti during the latter’s recent trip there, prior to “the Fish’s” return to Hargeisa. Was “the Fish” given some form of immunity from prosecution by the President for his trip to Hargeisa? If so, on what basis was this immunity given – after all the President does not have the power to overrule the law of the land – and why was such immunity not made public? Finally, what should one make of credible press reports that, while he was in Hargeisa, “the Fish” was gifted a large sum of cash by the President which was delivered to him by the Chairman of the Guurti? Is this payment for services already rendered, or to be rendered in the future, and what kind of services would an accused traitor render to the Silanyo administration? These are some of the questions being asked by SL citizens inside and outside the country, which need clear answers.

It is impossible to conceive that President Silanyo would allow his government to actively conspire to subvert the very constitution that it has sworn to uphold and defend at all costs. Nevertheless, it is true that the recent trip of “the Fish”, concurrent public statements in the press by his colleagues in infamy, such as Ismail Buubaa, and the SL government’s studied silence on the matter have given rise to deep disquiet among SL citizens. The President and his government must quickly put this disquiet and suspicions of double dealing to rest by issuing a clear and categorical statement regarding their position on Somaliweyn 2.0 and their commitment to SL’s independence and sovereignty.

This issue has ended the honeymoon period of the Silanyo administration and they would be well advised to not underestimate either the unease among the public, nor the grave risk to the country’s peace and stability if they do not defuse the looming crisis of confidence this issue is fomenting. It is one thing for individuals (even the heads of national political parties) to flirt with Somaliweyn-2.0 and its promoters, it is quite another matter for those holding high political office to acquiesce in, or indeed foment, widespread public perception that they are conspiring with accused traitors to subvert the constitution of the country and the will of the people.

The Somalia Crisis & the Political Motives Underlying Somaliweyn-2.0
Successive governments of Somaliland have offered to assist in finding a solution to the political crisis in Somalia, indeed both the Egal and Riyalle administrations offered to mediate between the warring parties. Both these administrations went so far as to offer to host reconciliation conferences for the clans and communities of Somalia in SL, modelled upon SL’s successful experience of the Burao and Borama Conferences which laid the foundations of SL’s stability and emergence as a representative democracy. The international community and the self-appointed leaders of Somalia have chosen to ignore these genuine and fraternal overtures of good faith in favour of convening successive conferences in foreign capitals, each giving birth to a transitional ‘government’ that succeeds in governing only the allocation of the monies donated by its foreign sponsors among the office holders of the said ‘government’.

Now, some two decades after the collapse of the Siyad Barre dictatorship and disintegration of the erstwhile Somali Republic, this charade of revolving-door, so-called governments has become impossible to maintain, even as the threat posed by the failed state of Somalia to international security has increased with the rise of piracy and jihadist terrorism amidst the anarchy of that ungoverned country. It is a sad, but self evident, fact that these so-called transitional ‘governments’ periodically cobbled together for Somalia are neither transitional nor are they governments – rather they provide a mechanism for erstwhile and current warlords, foreign based “technocrats” and self appointed leaders to plunder the monies provided by the foreign donors. Of course, in this time-honoured endeavour of milking aid funds for personal gain the Somali participants are merely junior partners to the huge secretariat of the international aid industry and the smorgasbord of ancillary organisations encompassing experts, consultants, mercenaries (or security staff, to use the conventional nomenclature), logistics and medical services that it spawns.

The embarrassment of Somaliland establishing a stable, peaceful and functioning, indigenous democracy with no financial or ‘expert’ input from the international aid industry, next door to the anarchy, terrorism and piracy that prevails in Somalia, despite two decades of international involvement and billions of dollars expended in aid money on the latter has become impossible to ignore. Thus, in order to continue the flow of aid monies, the beneficiaries of the Mogadishu paradigm of ‘top-down’ transitional ‘governments’ through periodic games of musical chairs in foreign capitals have come up with Somaliweyn-2.0. This is nothing more than a transparent and doomed attempt to shoe-horn the success of Somaliland’s experiment in indigenous conflict-resolution and state building into a new effort to establish yet another Somali ‘government’, thereby extending the shelf-life of the charade of ‘transitional governments’.

This cynical ploy masquerading as a new nationalism will not stabilise Somalia since it does not address the underlying conflicts in that country, nor does it address the central and pivotal issue underlying the abject failure of the ‘top-down’ paradigm of nation-building – namely the accountability of the so-called government to the people of Somalia. It merely seeks to co-opt the success of Somaliland’s grass-roots, ‘bottom-up’, conflict resolution process and graft it onto the failed framework employed in Somalia. The simple fact is that the people of SL are adamantly opposed to surrendering their sovereignty and they have no wish to be co-opted to rejoin the anarchy and misery prevalent in Somalia. The people of SL have deep empathy for the plight of their brothers to the south and they are ready and willing to assist in any genuine effort to find a solution to the crisis in Somalia. The fact that SL has welcomed, and continues to welcome, hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing the madness in their country is a clear testament of this empathy, even though the same international, humanitarian aid community, which conspires with the kleprocrats in Mogadishu to fleece the aid monies provided by international donors, categorises these refugees as IDPs (internally displaced people) and will thus not provide them relief aid.

Finally, the surreptitious nature of the efforts of the promoters of Somaliweyn-2.0 to inveigle the current SL administration to their scheme and bypass engaging the people of SL in open debate and dialogue not only demonstrates their anti-democratic, praetorian mindset, but also dooms their enterprise to failure. Somaliland is ready and willing to assist any serious and genuine effort to resolve the crisis in Somalia, but the price of this assistance is the recognition of their right to self determination and national sovereignty. This is non-negotiable and the people of SL have demonstrated that they will never surrender the sovereignty for which they have fought so long and sacrificed so much. The only question that remains to be answered is how long the new, Silanyo administration will permit these shenanigans, and the atmosphere of distrust and suspicion they engender to continue. In other words, is President Silanyo willing to sacrifice the legitimacy of his administration in order to protect the discredited promoters of Somaliweyn-2.0 with whom he once sympathised, and perhaps still does on some level? We shall see.

Ahmed M.I. Egal

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Readers Comments (38)

  1. a/kadir says:

    it is a possible Ahmed M I egal your vision and it is relevent becouse of article it not interpertaion the relity and fair distrubution powar sharing goverment, if ask you one question Somaliland claimined injustice of former regime instead prefer injsutice.me belief one somaliweyn reunit not norh somalia but it also including other region .

    so you will be relistic person ullution.

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  2. wadani Somaliland says:

    It is crucial for Silaanyo administration to reforce Somaliland sovereignty if not all hard work the people somaliland accomplished would be in vain. SOMALIA is disperate they use anything to discredit Somaliland success; jealousy runs deep in Somalia veins against Somaliland .Somaliland has accomplished a Democratic nation that majority Africa can't make.But I think there isn't no one more patriotic than Silaanyo he see Somaliland as same as his kids because deciated his life to Somaliland.

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  3. mohamed says:

    War jirraba cakarru iman Ahmedoow balse adigu xaggaad kasoo ciyaar gudday.
    Marxumki ku dhalay siddatanba ummu hadli jirrin.
    Cheers.

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  4. wadani Somaliland says:

    Just because Silaanyo allowed these past politicians that was in exile due to their false ideologies to reenter Somaliland doesn't mean Silaanyo wants to rejoin the somalia union; it just means he wants them to return to their homeland so people can help them understand the true reality open their eyes up and let them see how the nation has grown since leaving the union. Silaanyo giving these past politicians a second chance.The one who leads with mercy is a just ruler.

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  5. Buster says:

    The arrogant Mohamed rears his ugly head once again. Mr. Egal and his Dad are way beyond your league, you have to know your place Mr. know it all.

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  6. Osman says:

    Rwaayad iskumaaweeliyi. Somaliland haters, let me tell you Somaliland is in a threshold where it can intervene through the former disintegrated Somalia. Face the reality on the ground. somaliland has ten University. Almost one one in every state, and more more than one in several states. Somaliland is thirty years ahead of what was called Somalia. Haters you can't do anything against Somaliland. Somaliland is too powerful and unitied than ever before. today, when the right comes to keep your big mouth shut you will force of the Republic of Somaliland and its people through out the Horn of Africa. SNM alone defeated the Darood king Siyad Barre. Today you will face the whole force of Dir people out for their revenge. You will facte mechanized and well-trained Somaliland forces, Gadaboursi, Isse, Akishe, Guguure, Bursug, and so many Dir family forces. Defeated Siyad Barre Permanents watch big mouths before its too late. The democratic Republic is the a force to reckon with in ever aspect of development. You have nothing to be proud of. Case closed

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    • Abraham says:

      There is no need for tribalism here brother. Somaliland is not anti-Darood or anti-anyothertribe. Darood too are part and parcel of Somaliland and are our brothers and sisters. So no need for hate.

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      • Mukhtaar says:

        People who failed to appreciate Somaliland like the people you mentioned, will add nothing to Somaliland whether they are "part and parcel" or not. They are simple jealous people who hate free people, and this be ignored.

        There no need to bother with people who cannot think outside the box, because they are only good for following. And in Somali, followers only their tribes, hence why they would die for a man calling them from Minnesota rather than helping the TB hospital only few steps away from them or making peace with other Somalis who live near them.

        Somali nomads say, "kuwa waxa jooga garan waaya, waxa soo socda ma gartaan". Followers are nothing , but sheep; their future is always death because that is the purpose of having sheep.

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  7. Elmi says:

    Mr Igal, rest assured no SLand politician will ever say the words of Somaliwayn in public.

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  8. Ali Dheere says:

    Well! Well! That is a very thought provoking, down to earth op-ed.

    I should only add that Somaliland citizens didn't get their freedom and peace in a platter. We fought for it (very bravely with lots of blood) and we will defend and protect it by any means necessary.

    Cheers

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  9. wadani Somaliland says:

    Somaliweyn is not option Somaliland people have choosen there destiny; Somaliland is our country and we die for it again till end of times.

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  10. Buurta Wagareed says:

    Please Somaliland waxaad ku jirtaan af libaax waxaana idin kuriday Maxammed Xaaji Ibraahim Cigaal iyo shantii xubnood,
    1- Mohamed Ibrahim Egal – Prime Minister
    2- Garad Ali Garad Jama – Minister
    3- Ahmed Hajji Duale (Keyse) – Minister
    4- Hajji Yusuf Iman – Minister
    5- Hajji Ibrahim Nur – Minister
    markaa ku jira caloosha yixaaska oo ka dhex ooya ilaa iyo inta aad miyir sanay saan. You can keep crying from every corner of the globe but at end of the day Muqdisho rules you people.What you need to do is form a a policy maker committee ASAP which advices every government that comes to power regardless of party affiliation. The committee's job must be making publication, writing every government who willing to listen and putting together a comprehensive study that covers every issue Somaliland is facing taday including domestic ones and implement them.

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    • mohamed says:

      Mogadiscio has become all crocodile tears(yixaaska)..When the Hawiye Somalia majority__understands good governance and how to control through power sharing systems and__processes keeping the Darod Miniority problematic trouble-makers in good check just the Isaak __did in Somaliland..then and only then the sinking Somalia would have a chance of survival.__One thing is for sure..a darod top brass will never prove good governance and Hawiye majority__is never upto the level of becoming a good charge watch dog to take care of good governance__as a majority. So what's the solution. As i suggested previously…allow the R/wayn-Isaak-dir ssnm__and other.5 minorities to replace the President/PM posts and form a new Govt. Before the expiry__term of the TFG.

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      • mohamed says:

        Con't
        All the SL dissidents headed by Ina Bubba pro Somalia must be allowed to __become Southern Citizens and join ranks with their brethern Isaak-SSNM-DIR-others.5 and__form a political Party headed by MR. INA BUbba a highly educated politician well liked by both inside __and outside Somalia including the Arab League. Then there will be two Somalia and Somaliland Govts.__and the Somalis problems in the Horn of Africa will have a long lasting shot of peace and harmony__and with the neighbors too.__Cheers.__

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  11. Adan says:

    @Buurta Wagareed, sahiib no one is crying here. Full stop.
    We here in Somaliland Jamhuriyaa have choicen our path to democary, progress and economic future for the sake of our ourselves and our children.

    What ever you do in AlQaieda infested FAQ-land is up to you. But beware we dont take advice for WalenWeyn.

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  12. mohamed says:

    Con't.
    All the SL dissidents headed by Ina Bubba pro Somalia must be allowed to __become Southern Citizens and join ranks with their brethern Isaak-SSNM-DIR-others.5 and__form a political Party headed by MR. INA BUbba a highly educated politician well liked by both inside __and outside Somalia including the Arab League. Then there will be two Somalia and Somaliland Govts.__and the Somalis problems in the Horn of Africa will have a long lasting shot of peace and harmony__and with the neighbors too.__Cheers.__

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  13. Boqoljireh says:

    Hold your horses guys, you are all out of context. Why fighting? Ahmed [God bless him] is only waking up us, and nothing else. He is trying to clarify what is going on, and how Somaliland and its people will never go back to Wanlaweyn. His father was stoned in 1960 by his people who were crazy enough at the time. We forced him to go to Mogadishu, after we rejected his call to wait at least 6 months.

    We should blame ourselves, because we do not trust each other, even today [after 50 odd years]. Wake up Somalilanders and create and organization that hunts for those like Buubaa, Jama Yare, The Fish , Samaters and others who broke us into pieces. This organization is viable and can be work like those Zionist like Shamir and others who until now hunt those who are against their destiny.

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    • Ahmed says:

      Boqoljireh, my brother, your proposal is very interesting but I think we should reserve such 'seek, capture and return' missions for the murderers who committed genocide & other crimes against humanity in Somaliland, e.g. Morgan, Ghani, Ali Samatar. Failed politicians like the Fish & Buubaa deserve only our contempt for their venality and pity for their lack of vision, honour and honesty.

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  14. Abraham says:

    Is the author of this article the son of our late president (may Allah grant him Jannah)? If indeed Mr ''Fish'' as alleged by the author is a threat to our national interest, then Silaanyo has a case to answer for. We were dismayed by the previous Riyaale government's disregard of our national laws and thus got rid of them when the time was right, so if the Silaanyo goverment is insisting on following in their infamous footsteps, something should be done about them too. The mass media is a good start.

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    • Gobaad says:

      Yes Abraham, the author of this article is the son of the late Mr. Mohamed Haji Ibrahim Egal.

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  15. Gobaad says:

    Mr. Egal's topic raises a suspicion that sends a bone-chilling sensation to every patriotic Somalilander and a very dangerous issue for anyone to toy with the idea of rejoining the doomed union that was buried and forgotten to circulate now when Somalilanders resurrected, dusted themselves to rebuilt their country. Why open old wounds?

    To those who are advocating or spreading propaganda of a reunion saying that:… " if Somalilanders want, they can have the Presidency and Hargeisa to be the captial of Somali." This statement is quite absurded. It might have worked in the 80s when all Somalilanders wanted was power sharing and a fair distribution of resoucers and development. Somaliland was completely neglected dispite the fact that Siyad Barre was collecting over 40 million dollars a year from the Strategic Millitary Base leased to the United States. And all he has done was improving other regions and buy weapons which was eventually used to elminated Somalilanders. We say, we are a nation and a force to reckon with in the HOA. No thanks.

    Unlike the former President who was a one man-band, the current President promised to be open and engaging and that he would consult with the public on decision-making. I believe that Mr. Silaanyo owes to public to come clean and address these accusations and to put these rumours to rest.

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  16. Boqoljireh says:

    I agree with you Ahmed, but at the same time we should have a mechnism to punish those guys other than what you have said. I cannot comprehend, why they are doing this to their beloved country? Are they blind to see what the savage regime has done to their monthers, sister, fathers, cousins and entire Somaliland population in 1988 and beyond. The hate they inriched themselves took some of them not to attend the funeral of their beloved mothers. This shows they will not be honest to their country even if we forgive them, and that is the problem we have. Therefore, the only solution is what I said earlier HUNT HUNT HUNT.

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    • mohamed says:

      Hey Boqoljireh..why punish them…they chose to be Somalia instead of Somaliland.
      Let them claim the Somalia citizenship be part of the political system there and leave the S/land
      for the Somalilanders.
      Cheers.

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  17. mohamed says:

    Ahmed…your english is good but when it comes to your arguments I hate tell you that
    certain obvious aspects are absolutely baloney or boloney. How's your Udub
    doing these days eh?
    Cheers.

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  18. Abdisamad says:

    The article is informative even if Ahmed lets his emotions get the better of him in some places. I personally think we need to take away the treason charges against those Somalilanders who engage with the Somali Govt (TFG).

    The case for a greater Somali is weak and the supporters arguments are easily defeated, by bringing treason charges against theses people we will give them no choice but to continue pushing their failing ideas as they have no option.

    I would say let them enter Somaliland without fear of arrest. Only by engaging with these people on an intellectual and political basis can their weak arguments be defeated once and for all. Its the idea that needs to be rationally defeated and not the carriers.

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  19. Somali_Wadani says:

    Somaliweyn is gimmick used by southerners of Somalia to keep Somaliland hostage its disguise for tribal hatred and jealously. Somaliweyn died when southerners of Somalia hijack government for their own benefit and neglected Somaliland financially and politically at the start of the union;Somaliweyn died when Somalia government went to war with its neighbors and lost humility and signed off the lands of Ogaden/Somali Western region off and didn't appeal international courts case with peacefull referendum instead;;Somali Weyn died when Somalia Government committed genocide on its own fellow somalis in Somaliland leaving nothing behind but ruins.Somaliweyn died when Djibouti split and Ethiopia and Kenya maintain there somali regions also when Somaliland went back to their orginal borders; Somaliweyn Died a long time ago all that is left now is its carcuss which maggots such as Al Shabaab and TFG feed on for power and greed. Let Somaliland live take its right for place in the world stop being blinded by hatred. The world is realizing now Somaliland has accompilish the impossible in the Horn of Africa; peace, stablity, and democratic government.

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    • faisal says:

      Brother read this simple facts
      1) Somalia didn't committed genocide. Siyad Barre's leadership commited horrifying crimes against all somais, specially the norther somalis.
      2) there are those fought for the greater somalia for centuries against British colonials but the northern men often worshiped British so they massaccred our people of SSC region.
      3) ssc people fought for indepedence of greater somalia not clan controlled state of the North and will never accept that idea
      4) the So called somailaland will never ever be recognized as an indepedent nation because Ethiopia would have done that already if it could.
      5) you must accept semi-outonomy or SSC regions will secure that lands and you will end up losing even semi-outonomy. That is the fact, because somalia will never be divided into small clanish states but semi-outonomy!

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  20. Gobaad says:

    And let it be known to those who didn't get it yet and still circulating rumours that Mr. Silaanyo is negatiating a back door deal with Somaliweyn who suggests that Hargeisa to be the Captial of Somalia and Silaanyo the President (what a joke!), Mr. Silaanyo is a President of a nation and an emerging force to reckon with, why in the world would he want to drag Somaliland into terrorist and piracy infested place like Somaliwyen? No thanks.

    Mr. Silaanyo made it clear that Somaliland's sovereignty is not negotiable. So, qudhaanjoy ku quuso!

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  21. Ali Dheere says:

    Bravo ya WADANI! You laid the whole truth there as it is.
    I will add: Maybe after the development and (ultimate) recognition of Somaliland, we can have some postmortem of Somaliweyn and see if we can salvage something like a common market among somali speaking people.

    For the people of Somaliland origin who want Somaliweyn, I say let them have their say. Somaliland has passed that barrier of doubt of staying or quiting the union. Somalilanders will never, ever forget what they went through within the union. No single true patriot of this great nation will entertain the idea of going back on its hard earned freedom and peace.

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  22. Ayaanle Mursal says:

    Take this as an example of why the name Somaliland hurts me more than its system of governance!
    I love my north brothers. My great-grand father #1 ( my father’s father) was once a major of Berbera and a freedom fighter who signed treat with British to NOT mess around with Somali women, customs and cultures of Somalis or British Soldiers shall be ready for bloody war. My other great-grandfather #2, (from my mother’s die) hailed from Nugaal, another freedom fighter. My Grandfather #1 had to flee to his homeland of the Sool region where as my great-grandfather #2 and his 13 sons, brothers, cousins and relatives were massacred by British colonials and their helpers from the North. Only my grandfather #2, who was 6 years and his 4-year old title half brother, survived the entire family. They were massacred not by only British colonials but they were directed and tortured by men from the North Somalia who worshiped British Colonials. Now, how could one tell me I am a Somalilander when my people died for the cause of greater Somalia? I was born in Mt.Darken, the same mountain the Sayyed Abdulla Hassan sacrificed his beloved horse.

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    • Ayaanle Mursalr says:

      NOw, how could a man from the north tell me that I am a Somaliland simply because I share the name "somaliland" with you that was given to us by colonia I fought against? How do you expect me to disgrace the cause of my great-grand father, fathers and people of the Sool, Sanaag and Cayn region who lost quarter of it's population in the struggle of securing the freedom of greater Somalia? It is pocking an unhhealed bruices when a man from the north tell me, you are a somailland and you have accept. I can't because you are telling me, "we helped British to massacre your people and now we want to disgrace what your grandfathers stood for". It is an unacceptable. I will fight for greater Somalia and will never accept the division of Somaila. I love My north brothers, however, the name hurts so much I conjure the blood of my agonized great-grand father and his sons every time I hear the name Somaliland. It is an acceptable name!

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  23. Ali Dheere says:

    Ayanle, it is not true that only the so called people of SSC fought against the British colonials and your assumption are all wrong. Somaliland is not a 'name'. It is a nation which goals are to develop, to progress and live in peace within itself and its neighbours. If your mission is to fight for a greater somalia for all ethnic somalis (including the liberation of Djibouti, NFD in Kenya and Ogadenia in Ethiopia), be my guest. That was a dream which some somalis like you are still dreaming.

    Also you should remember that Somaliland is not for all somalis. Somali is an ethnic group who live in many countries. Some live in Kenya, some in Djibouti, some in Somaliland and nowadays many are dispersed all over the world.

    Finally it seems you are oblivion of the massacre, genocide, and ethnic cleansing which Somalia did to Somaliland. Infact the crimes which the British did to the people of Somaliland are peanuts compared to what the brutal somalia government (whom you are defending) did to its own people.

    So please get real and if you love your brothers in Somaliland (as you said in your post), then give us a break and let us build the nation and live our life peacefully.

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    • Ayanle says:

      You selectively miscontrued and misread my points, Ali Dheere. I didn't defend the horrible crimes Siyad Bare committing Somalis, specially from Hargesa and Burco populations. It was horrible but I think the same crime Siyad Barre committed against his own people is fanatized by Silaayno Aw Mulac. You may not be aware of the true development and intentions of Silaanyo but I give a hint, the Jewish people have suffered under the deplored Hitler who committed one of the worst genocide against Jewish people in history, yet they are committing similar crimes against Palistineans right now who they are enslaving. Thus, history doesn't lie. Called me paraniod, but I beleive history doesn't lie too

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      • Hasan says:

        OK so your seriously comparing Somaliland to Israel. You have just lost any credebility (you might have had)

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        • Hasan says:

          And also you are basing your identity and views on something that might have happened to your (great) grandfather. how long ago was this?

          Seriously. s**t happens, get over it already.

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  24. Ali Dheere says:

    Thanks for your clarifications Ayanle. But again you perjure yourself. You are equating Mujaheed Silanyo and his democratically elected admin with the Jewish regime.

    If you read the above article careful, you will note that there is a trace of skepticism against the President for entertaining the promotion of Greater Somalia. Thus you should support and applaud of such conspiracy in the current Somaliland Government (if it exist) and not despise it.

    Peace Brother.

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  25. Jamac says:

    OK VIVA issaq brothers

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  26. Jamac says:

    waxaan aaminsanahay Somaliya inay tahay waddan keliya

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