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ONLF Inside Somali State of Ethiopia
January 8, 2012 · 69 Comments
The creation of Somali State of Ethiopia coincided with the collapse of “Somalia” during 1990’s, after liberation of Ethiopia.
The vain theory of “Greater Somalia” was adopted in “Somalia” by one-tribe administration in Mogadishu led the corrupted Siyad Barre’s regime. This theory is based on territory expansion policy, where Ethiopia and Kenya must give up parts of their countries that has Somali ethnic groups (5th Region of Ethiopia & Northern Frontier District (NFD) of Kenya).
According to the theory “Greater Somalia”, Djibouti, Somaliland, “Somalia”, 5th Region of Ethiopia and NFD of Kenya must unite under one administration with Mogadishu as its official capital. This theory led instability in the region.
Ogden National Liberation Front (ONLF), a terrorist armed group, was product of such “Greater Somalia” Policy. Barre regime trained, educated and financed large number of Somali-Ethiopians in Mogadishu to fight Ethiopia. The regime instructed the group to fight Ethiopia and merge the 5th Region of Ethiopia into “Somalia”, in order to demarcate the internationally recognized Som-Ethiopian border.
The group continued illegal armed struggle against Ethiopia for decades without substantial result. The group attacked schools, civilians and even killed children in different areas of the 5th Region of Ethiopia. They created instability in the region, where children were too fearful to attend schools. The region felt behind in education and development compare to other Ethiopian regions.
ONLF was optimistic to see one-tribe “Somalia” back on its feet with rot regime like Barre’s in top office, but this dream could not be materialized after 20 years and “Somalia” is dooming into chaos. At this stage, ONLF could not secure support from any country and were forced to sign peace deal with Ethiopia.
The top ONLF leaders divided over the peace deal and extremist hardliners persuaded their terrorist activities. As the name of the group indicates, all its members are Ogden tribesmen, who misbelieve that 5th Region of Ethiopia belongs to them only, despite the presence of more than 30 other Somali tribes. This is typical hypocrisy and dirty tribalism ideology that failed former “Somalia” in last 20 years.
5th Region of Ethiopia, without ONLF, could have set an example to other Somalis fighting over tribalism in Mogadishu. The region is having almost all ethnic Somali tribes and if such tribes reach an agreement in the region, similar agreement and solution could have become applicable “Somalia” too.
The region enjoyed vindicated power sharing between Somali stakeholders however, after ONLF signed the peace deal, the region is falling into instability and injustice. The region followed the footsteps of the Great Dr, Abdul Majir theory of fair power sharing and democracy until ONLF showed up.
ONLF is implementing in the region similar ideology and method Barre regime in Mogadishu, where one-tribe take shares of the others.
The justified system designed by Dr. Abdul Majid, is been infested by the repentant ONLF members with corruption and tribal mentality, which could lead the regions into failure similar to “Somalia”.
ONLF is discriminating Somali tribes who opposed their illegal armed activities against Ethiopia before the peace deal, and now all development projects from Federal Government of Ethiopia are going to former pro-ONLF tribes.
Meanwhile, ONLF members, who signed the peace deal, in Jigjiga are creating conflicts between the Somali tribes in the 5th Region of Ethiopia, and they supply armed and ammunition to the former pro-ONLF tribes. The education scholarships are going to the students from former pro-ONLF supporters while others are left helpless.
The President of the mainly ethnic Somali Region in Eastern Ethiopia (5th Region of Ethiopia) must ensure fair treatment and power sharing to all Somali tribes in the region. He must carefully monitor the illegal activities of the ONLF members in his government.
The president should ensure that government power is not been used as a tool to kill and displace non-ONLF tribes. ONLF, after failing to achieve its armed objectives, is trying to create enmity between the Somali tribes in the region. ONLF is trying to convince the world that one tribe is the original owner of the region, and all the rest are strangers particularly those having ethnic relations within the neighboring countries like Somaliland, Djibouti and “Somalia”.
By\ Abdulaziz Al-Mutairi
Email: az.almutairi@yahoo.com
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Tags: Djibouti, ONLF, ONLF Terrorist, Somalia, Somaliland
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Nobody has refused the idea of a normal thinking. What we refused is irrational behaviour and undemocratic thinking. We welcomed the so-called Mulah. He abused his welcome and he was kicked out as we always do with persons who misbehave or cross the line. Guess where he ended up in Ethiopia sick and defeated. The difference between Somalis is decency, ignorance and lack of self-respect and we have respected you and you abused us and you know that. No more. We are not going to tolerate your nonsense and let you get away with it.
I Don't see anything wrongly said in the Article. What's the panic all about.
The problems in the Article must be addressed and put to rest.
Cheers.
Well written article and to the point, thank you Mr. Author. It is true since the Ethiopian government signed a peace deal with the terror group called the ONLF, they have start killing any Somalis who are not from their clan.
If the Ethiopian central government do not intervene and stop this madness, other Somali ethnic group who were always at peace with EPDF, will raise to the occasion and defend themselves against this menace the so-called leyu police.
HMObsiye:
if you can do that and and can defend yourself from the lyuu police or the ONLF why not do now??
Most of the commentators are burying their heads in the sand and attacking the author for telling the truth. I know the truth hurts specially if you are Ogadeen and was taking the hospitality of the non-Daroods for granted for a quite long time. Injustice did not work for your surrogate Siyad Barre and will not work for you too. You can not dominate and will not be able to dominate all the other Somali tribes in the 5th Ethiopian region and you will sooner or later suffer the same consequence as your godfather, the former dictator of Somalia. Remember, it was the Isaaq who defeated the ignorant and murderous Mad Mullah and Siyaad Barre and will not hesitate for a second to put you into your knees if the Federal Government of Ethiopia doesn't dismantle your terrorist organization, which pretends to be an administration, but is in fact an Ogadeen terrorist mafia.
The ball is now in the Federal Government's court, they should uproot this terrorist mafia or get ready for a further civil wars and destabilization in the wider Horn of Africa. The peace loving people of the Horn have no choice but to end this terrorist Ogaaden mafia once and for all. There is no time to lose , they must be stopped today and not tomorrow.
hahahaha mr yusuf waxan u malaynayaa markaad qoraysay in aad qayil sanay oo aad kadhac sanayd
sxb wether u like it or not k.5aa or ogaden or somali galbeed . kaad doonto ugu yeer waxan kuusheegi in sheekadii c/majiid iyo ciid daahir ee ahayd in ogadenku waxyar kadagaan k. 5aad way isku dhamaatay
waxaad haysana waa fadhi kudirir maxamed siyad bare iyo sayid maxamed cabdile xasan waa layaqaanaa waxa ay kayihiin gayiga ay somali dagto oo idil marka sxb futada gacanta iska gali ileen waxkale masamayn kartide…
I 100% agree with the author this Ogadeen terrorism must be stopped, before things get out of hand. I know things won't be easy when the Isaaq tolerance is abused. The Federal Government of Ethiopia should intervene and break that region into separate administrations based on tribal lines instead of giving everything to one intolerant and undemocratic tribe – Ogaadeen..
there is nothing wrong with the article save some spelling mistake here and there.on the contrary i think it's interesting and highly informative article.We need to go to the drawing table .
@ Budhle
I see your point, but the situation in the Ogaden is much different than what is going on inside Somalia so respects. For example, Ethiopia is a functioning regional superpower with a booming economy. Somalia, on the other hand has been a failed state for 20 plus years now.
In the case of the Ogaden, it is in the best interest of the tribes their to make peace and integrate with Ethiopia than it is with the hell hole we call Somalia all regions included. I agree that the current Tigre regime is oppressive and none representative of the entire Ethiopian population at large, but I would classify Ethiopia as a work in progress depending on how Meles behaves when it's his time to step down.
It is part of Islam to wish for your brother what one wishes for themselves and as a Somalilander I do not see any benefit in persuading my fellow Ogaden brothers in joining a region that has not known peace, development and happiness for 2 decades with no end in site. Some might see well these words are typical of a separatist, but in reality even if Somaliland were to never gain independence I would still be advising the NFD and Ogaden Somalis to take their chances with their respective host countries.
Here is a simple question that all Somalis should ask themselves to gauge their internal honesty to the cause and well being of the Somali people – What right do Somalis in the diaspora have to force Somalis back home into a conflict with Ethiopia and Kenya while we sit comfortably abroad sipping our starbucks?
Secondly, we must also consider the political landscape in prevalent in the horn. Ethiopia is seen by Europe and the US as the darling African nations, a ally in the war on terror, and a bulwark against traditional regional Islamic powers like Egypt who also happens to be Israel's bitterest enemy.
Finally, even if the NFD and Ogaden did gain their freedom in a miracle, who or what functioning nation would they join – TFG? Somalia can not even solve its own problems let alone taking on the responsibility of feeding and educating another few million Somalis. It's just plain stupid to image this. I can not feed myself and I want to feed millions more!!!
Puntland – Is one region dominated by 1 clan and they can't even gain consensus and build lasting peace in their region
Somaliland – Is a multiple tribe region, with a functioning government and institutions, and flourishing economy. Sadly, however, it appears 1 clan (Dhublhante) are determined to ruin it all in the name of Daroodism disguised as Somalism. Had they truly wanted a UNITED Somalia what better option would they have taken other than creating a PRO-UNITY party and changing Somaliland from within.
As the old adage goes if it's not broken don't fix it. In Somaliland's case they only thing missing is a small political modification or recalculation. Sadly, however, for the Dhulbhante such long-term visions are beyond their understanding and site. Simply put – if you can't come to an understanding with your regional brethren and in region that has known peace for 20 years then it is foolish to think that other more hostile tribes would give you the time of day.
My apologizes for the typos. I was too lazy to proofread :)
I agree with some of the things above, but. A free Somali galbeed does not mean unification with Somalia. The idea that all Somalis should be united in one nation died along time ago. That however does not mean all Somalis can't or shouldn't be free…
I said this earlier, and I will repeat. We [Somaliland] must negotiate with EPDF to relinguish the RESERVE AREA that was given ti Emperor Haile Sellase in February, 1954. Britain specifically included the then Somaliland Constitution in 1960, that we should negotiation with Ethiopia about the return of that land. What is holding us? Ethiopian government knows that this land belongs to us, specially EPDF who were against the injustice and monarchy.
We are not claiming Ethiopian territory, but ours, and this is the time, that we first get our share of the 5th Province, and negotiate the return if the current situation is not improved for our people there.
@ Allemagan
Dear brother, I have heard your words stating that Somalia will never be dismantled and say OKAY.
It is easy to simply shout useless unity slogans and criticize Somaliland, but NOT put any new ideas forward.
So what is your vision and how do your purpose we solve Somalia's problems in a PRACTICAL way? Your plan does not have to be specific, but just give my some SOLID bullet points or outline.
Show me what you've got that is my open challenge to you and all the anti-Somaliland or Somaliweyne advocates. …..The floor is yours!
Qamar walalo people misunderstand qadar. Everything is written but Allah didn't say sit on you ass and do nothing and simply wait for qadar. You make the steps and let Allah guide you through the steps.
Secondly what makes you think we will go under Melez Zenawi. This is the 21st century and the world is changing around us so we must embrace these changes and look forward to the future and boost our economy and work and trade with our neighbours and with the rest of the world and develop our country in general.
Unity has always been a great idea but Somalis let it down from the beginning. If our unity with Somalia failed miserably then what?. We can only hold each-other back sister.
Plus if Somalia is serious about unity then let them show us something that may change our mind and recapture our trust otherwise they need to stop dragging us back into their failure.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I have based on understanding on the facts on the ground and not outside help. Regardless, after reading your remarks it appears to me that your lack reading and comprehension ability otherwise you would have realized that a part of applying wisdom whether Islamic or dunyawi is understanding the state of affairs on the ground.
Islamic scholars, as part of their sets in giving fatwas, analyze the state of affairs on the ground to ensure that their rulings achieve the greatest benefit and least harm. Had Said Barre realized that Somalia could not defeat Ethiopia in the 77-78 war by alienating both Russia and the US perhaps things would have turned out different and Ogadenia would still be in our hands.
Secondly, getting back to your belief that Somalia should not be dismantled, what do you call the current state of our nation over the past 20 years. We would like to blame the entire world for our misfortunes, host national day parties in the diaspora, but in reality we have been at each others throats for over the past 20 years. Look at Djibouti, with less than half a million population that have enjoyed their peace. Look the some of the GCC countries, who also happen to host populations that are less than 1/4 of Somaliland's population. These Gulf countries enjoy peace, development and tranquility.
Based on your childish day dreams, Somaliland should have waited over these past 20 years for Mogadishu to get their act together rather than developing for themselves. Complete rubbish!
If you want Somaliweyne, move there along with these SSC fanatics and let us gain our independence. And Inshallah when we do don't come crying back to Hargeisa like all these fake nationalists who take their children to Somaliland every summer to teach them about their culture.
Did not the Prophet(pbuh) say that a mumin does not fall within the same hole twice. The non-muslims say fool me once shame on you, but fool me twice shame on me.
Well if Somaliland falls for this same WE ARE SOMALI, WE SHOULD UNITE nonsense then my people do truly deserve whatever Mogadishu does to them in the future and have no one to blame for it. They see the Garowe principles, they see the 2 sharifs fighting over power and aid money, and they definitely see Puntland's continued tribal agenda both in the north and in Mogadishu.
So frankly my dear stick your Cilmaani talk where the sun don't shine or go take your tears to the innocent women that are being raped by both the TFG and Al Shabab fightersm, Let me know what they think of Somaliland versus so called unity government.
Honestly, there are limits to stupidity. If you wish to blindly walk back to Xamar mashallah just take yourself and your family, but do not doom the rest of us to another 20 years of chaos and bloodshed.
This Daroodism that Siyad Barre started in the seventies is disease that every Somali state is dealing with.Somaliland must hold firm once recognition is obtained then we can reverse the illnesses cause by Somalia and Ethiopia.
Ogadeen well surely fail, time and time again not one single Darood will accomplish nothing because they put their tribe first and use the somalinimo as a excuse. This article is completely right and shows the facts on the ground.
This is interesting video. Ogaden is divided between Hawiye and Darood. Jees was with USC and Gabyoow with Morgan and Barre Stooges.
Morgan is sounds desperate and tribalist to the bone.
check this.. .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dae00I_qtQ&feature=youtu.be
@ Qamar,
I do not beleive that you are from Somaliland at all, so please stop all this nonsense. Allah never tells us to commit sucide, but as a matter of fact the prophet himself plainly told us not to repeat a mistake twice. Therefore, I do not know where you got this distorted idea from. I think you are Alshabaab sympathizer and suggest that you be monitored by the international anti terrorism agencies. It is not a secret that ONLF is a terrorist organization and any one supporting it is a terrorist.
I think Somalilandpress should not publish this type of article. Greater Somalia has nothing to do with Siad Barre nor ONLF. It has nothing to do with the barbarian clan wars among our people.
It is a just and positive cause. We should not allow this foreigner to discredit the concept of greater Somalia and justify the occupation of Western Somalia and NFD by Ethiopia and Kenya. Shame.
@ Warxume
A complete nonsense!!!!!!
why are you deleting my comment for are you faqash
I am very dismayed by the lack of maturity and sense in your comments, the writer of the above article is simply expressing his view on ONLF and the Hawd region, he is using the power of pen regardless of his lack of chain of logic and grammar construction, apparently he is not diplomatic in nature and his incendiary language could incite some reaction by others, but i am happy with his approach as long as he doesn't campaign for killing,plundering and demolishing properties. In my point of view, the reserved area is Somali territory extorted by the colony and put in the hands of Ethiopia as a gift, the people who happen to reside there no matter of their tribal origins are all Somalis and they have obligatory responsibility to fight for the return of their land and free their people, it doesnt matter whether they annex with Somalia or Somaliland later, as long as they are free that is the ultimate goal of every Somali individual who have scant of nationalist mind.
1. The Somalis in Ethiopia are unable to be self sufficient. They need to improve relations with Ethiopia and Somalia. 2. Somaliland has interest in the stability of both Somalia and Ethiopia thus cannot support continued conflict. 3. Somaliland can be Independent and self sufficient bar these continued security issues presented by the Ethiopia-Somalia issues which end up drawing Kenya as well as other countries to intervene. This conflict has already ended up with the occupation of Somalia and further threatening the stability in Somaliland borders. 4. All this will lead to the Ethiopian Somali regions to bear the brunt and possibly lead to their Genocide. 5. This matter if escalatted and peace treaty not pursued will bring possible war crimes against responsible governments in all these countries TFG, Ethiopia and Kenya are all principly responsible. 6. Somaliland must call for these governments to secure the situation before its too late.
1. Self sufficient? Think of Hargeisa and Burco in the early 90s… Who would have thought we would reach where we are today? We did not get anything from Ethiopia or Somalia.
2. A conflict is inevitable! Where there is oppression there will always be resistance. We as Somalilanders should know this better than anyone.
3. The issue is between the inhabitants of somali galbeed and the Ethiopian regime. It has nothing to do with Somalia nor Somaliland. Somalia dos not have the economic or military means to anything about it. Why Ethiopia continuously tries to destabilize and intervene in Somali affairs is a question I would like you to answer!
4. I think that ship has sailed…
5. I fully and wholeheartedly agree.
6. Yes, and securing should mean, letting all Somalis no matter region, be able to decide their own future.
Look, Somalis in Ethiopia are in neutral zone according to Ethiopia. They border Somaliland, Ethiopia and Somalia. Since Somalia is insecure the Ethiopians have legitimate reasons to try and secure the border. The Somalis in Ethiopia also has legitimate reasons to help secure both regions. Thus, at the moment this is the case.
If Ethiopia believes the Somali inhabitited land is Ethiopian and have refused to grant Independency but agreed for it to be neutral zone. Then I suggest the matter be looked at from a legal view. Especially since you yourself admitt the conflict will contine due to their 'destabilisation of Somali affairs' Then it only logical to have Somalia with help from the AU andIGAD (I assume Somalis means all) and Ethiopia reach a resolution to this concern legally. Conflict is not getting them any where.
An important comment I made was also rejected and deleted by the Sldpress system.
There are times, I feel that the Sldpress is antisomaliland. Who cares cuz I am here and only
try to advocate helpful comments for all Somalis and non-Somalis. However, am glad a Mr. Yusuf
has commented what I wanted to put across. Am also delighted that when some of my comments
fail to get across, somehow another blogger goes across with my ideas. That's okay with me though!.
After almost a long time contributor for the Sldpress, I have yet to come into terms what this website
stands?.
Cheers.
Correction: Stands for?
Cheers.
Why is this sort of trash being published on Somalilandpress. There are far less inflamatory and more mature ways to say "The president should ensure that government power is not been used as a tool to kill and displace non-ONLF tribes".
It is these types of trashy articles that drag down the credibility of Somalilandpress.
@ Esse,
This shows your selective amnesia or even short memory span I should better say. You are forgetting that Somaliland lost its best and brightest military elite, some fighting Manguste Haile Mariam and others shot in the back in 1977 by Darood conspirators, who were led by Siyaad Barre and were shedding crocodile tears for Pan Somalism. The picture of today is not much different from yesteryear. We have the Ogadeen's trying to abuse and dominate other tribes in the 5th Ethiopian region, the one clan state of Puntland, the Azania state in the far south Somalia these corrupt groups have one aim in common, which is Daaroods dominating the horn from Kenya to Ethiopia.
The writer has highlighted the ugly reality of the ONLF with their one mission ideology of destroying peace in the Horn of Africa. ONLF/SSC have somehow become partners and are united to to destroy the peace that Somaliland has created in the Horn. No matter how hard they try and under what disguise they come under nothing can totally cover their ugly reality. It is sad that they have created suffering to their own people and other Somalis living with them. Look where they are and how far they will travel to create chaos. They remind me of the cuckoo bird that lays its eggs in the nests of other birds with the mission that once the chick grows the first thing it does is to kill the other chicks while eating their food in the process.There is a wisdom in the whole process very spooky though. Sooner or later they will either choose to live in peace or face the ugly reality of becoming the victims of their own making. Peace has one language and that is progress.
There is nothing wrong with the article and Mr. Al-Mutairi is a renowned Journalist, well informed and familiar with the political issues in the area. But as we all know the truth hurts. I am don't know what you mean by this 'old man' because we always associate old men with honesty, integrity and wisdom. And for your information, Mr. Al-Mutairi is not an old man, young, energic and ready to express his opinion without fear whether anybody likes it or not. As always and when it doesn't set well with you, guys have a reputation to attack and discredit anybody that tries to tell truth.
Guys, just go to Dhawanaagnews, watch and listen to hoopla of 'Sir Fakatay' on tape by Darood a threatening, undermining and belittling Hawiye ability and trying to recoup their loses to strengthen their Darood collective force to retake Somalia after they have been ousted. It is mind-boggling display how they convinced themselves that ruling Somalia is an entitlement and taken for granted.
:o That is shocking walalo. They believe that it is their right and entitlement to rule Somalia. They purse nothing other than daroodism not Somalinimo. This whole Somaliweyn business they shout everywhere is nothing other than daroodweyn and they are tricking everyone else with those lies while they acuse us of somali deed. I can't believe it. Xamar is on fire because darood cannot accept hawiye rule. Allah ha u sahlo Somali.
In Ogaden the majority rules. The minority is out of luck.
OGADEN forever
Ogaden is the minority. Stop kidding yourself buddy.
Cheers.
Gobaad,
We know the Daroods and were rehearsing to face their dirty games of today some twenty-four years ago, that is years before we defeated them in Somaliland, now that we perfected our offense, we would like to say to them: "Bring it on babies, we are ready for you ".
@Ahmed Nur, Gobaad ,Yusuf.
I couldn't agree more..your comments hit their targets home. Good luck Somaliland guul iyo sharaf, Caano iyo nabad.Peace and prosperity. you guys are stealing the show as always was the case
and there's no turning backwards. As Ahmed Nur points out…Onlf/SSC of old Gen MSB are
regrouping again with the old known banner Onlf/Dhulos SSC Militia, which went down with the
collapse of Gen.MSB. The JSL must be well aware of this new insurgency Onlf/Snum!.
What's the relationship between Onlf/SSC/Snum/g6?. I welcome Mr. Al-Mutairi to write more.
Cheers.
CORRECTION:
To All the pro Somaliweyn Daaroods,
If you are so pro Somaliyweyn and as truthful as you would like an honest Somali from either Isaaq or Hawiye or even Jiriirweyne to believe your patriotism and good will towards pan Somalism, Then please explain to us; Why did you and your Abgaal stooges allowed Ethiopia, Uganda, Rwanda and Kenya to capture Mogadishu during the reins of Abdillahi Yussuf , Farmaajo and Abdiweli Gaas? Is that your patriotism and who are you trying to fool? rest assured, you are the least patriotic and the most ignorant clan in the Horn of Africa. You are deceiving no one but yourselves and you have learned nothing from your doomed history.
http://blackagendareport.com/content/hell-no-we-w…
They are trying to grab all the Oil, Gas, Mineral rich area from Somalis to fund the US control of East Africa resources and control over China/India/Turkey inside Africa. It includes South Sudan and Nigeria.
This is a truly a horrid article. It’s one thing to not want to be part of Somalia but it’s another to twist history to suit your agenda. There’s a special place in hell reserved for intellectual dishonesty. (this author needs to repent)
Wanting freedom for yourselves but not for your problems is beyond hypocritical
The Somali people of Western Somalia will be free from the tyrant of Ethiopia on day Inshallah.
*brothers
One thing that disappoints me is that Qaabiilism ugly head is being given platform despite all that has happened. Instead of searching for Islamic Democracy the old NAZI, Fashist ideology is being called to support us.
The Shariah Islamic law was rejected as too extreme or at least Alshabab extreme version was. Only to be replaced by the total oposite of Kaafiir ideology of rule.
All this will end the same way Alshbab went because the Daroodism clan ideology also has a very destructive bi-ideology of nazi nature. This will reveal itself as the removal of Alshabab leaves it will be warlordism by qaabiil. What a waste for any future Somalis could have been hoping for if this is even supported.
You guys are amazing! What a bunch of pathetic arrogant ignorant clannish losers you are. Why don't you establiss somaliland version of BNP, you would need someone to represent your extreme views I'm a proud modrate somalilander and i'd definitely like more fellow countrymen with moderate minds to take part of this discussion.
I'm neither Darood nor Hawiye so i can be neutral. Hawiye is the largest somali clan family according to CIA, it's not Darood's fault if they are not politically ambitious or lack brilliant politicians and i'm not saying Darood has but you got the point. If supposingly true that Darood is conspiring against others clans, that doesn't worry me a bit because simply the days that one clan dominates other clans in Somalia (Barre era) are over forevere. Competition under democracy is different, for example we know how Mr.Egal RIP allied with other clans in 1960s to end Darood dominance. Egal is probably the greatest somali politician ever. Only helpless losers would whine like little kids all the time.
Yusuf,
Isse not Esse, that's what happen when you close one eye and see what you only want to see. ''Somaliland lost its best and brightest military elite, some fighting Manguste Haile Mariam and others shot in the back in 1977 by Darood conspirators'' I didn't know Somaliland existed that time, damn! i'm way behind in somali politics and history. As for 1977 ome say that Barre went to war just to destroy somali army because it could threat his regime but that's just a theory. Ogaden war was the only time somalis were united, so to question that great event is so cheap. Next you will question the history of Imam Gurey's campaings in Abyssinia (and some already do).
P.S Somalia's leadership ccommited grievous military and diplomatic mistakes before and during Ogaden war but that has nothing to do with the noble aim of the war or the fact that all somalis were behind their leadership that time.
Correction, Some not ome.
@ Isse
What you are saying makes sense and simply saying all this tribe or that tribe is good or bad is wrong. That is why I limit to myself simply judging any political group's rhetoric by their actions. In the case of both Puntland and SSC political groups (not people at large) are full of it I am afraid. Puntland rules by the gun and the SSC want to conquer and dictate to others with the gun. Both groups have been given the option on numerous occasions to air their differences by talking or debating, but negotiating and compromising is not a part of their vocabulary.
Just look reaction by the Sool community to the opening of political parties in Somaliland. A single local election has not passed and we are on the verge of another confrontation. The new SSCD party should have been given the chance to run for both local and presidential elections (5-10 years), gain momentum with their political agenda (pro-unity or secession), debate all their issues, perhaps win over a few Isaaq supporters, but it appears we have gone back to square one – as Dhulbhante we prefer to stay ACTIVE and so we want to join the TFG parliament brawl. lool
Well, I haven't created clannish ideology it was there forever. Anyone who tries to divorce clannish ideology from all the crimes committed by Daroods is either stupid or ignorant. You are simply covering up for the crimes committed by the murderous Mad Mullah, through the dictatorial regime of Siyaad Barre, the reign of Abdillahi Yusuf, Farmajo, Abdiweli and all the on going cold-blooded murders of ONLF against the peaceful Isaaqs in the 5th Region in Ethiopia. Let us admit, there is a multi ethnic cleansing going on in the Horn of Africa. People wake-up and call a spade a spade !!
My primary objective in this article is to bring the attention of the Ethiopian Federal Government and the World, in general, about the injustice and discrimination against the non-Ogden tribes by ONLF members who signed the peace deal with the Addis Ababa.
After I spoke to 1500 Somali-Ethiopians, I discovered that Ogden tribe is not majority in 5th Region of Ethiopia (Somali State in Ethiopia), to prove this, here are some of the tribes who share the region with Ogden.
Colleagues from Jigjiga provided the names:
1 Essa
2 Isaq
3 Gadabursi
4 Jarso
5 Geri
6 Gaboye
7 Gadsan
8 Bursug
9 Jidwaq
10 Balcad
11 Shekhash
12 Wayten
14 Galimeys
15 Darod ( Ogaden Caln is one of them)
16 Hawiye
17 Duubo/Jareer
18 Karanle
19 Garre
20 Gurre
21 Gurgure
20 Gurgure
22 Dagodi
23 ajuran
24 garire
25 sharif
26 Akishe
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Please excuse me, If I left others.
TALK ABOUT THIS GUYS:
I said this earlier, and I will repeat. We [Somaliland] must negotiate with EPDF to relinguish the RESERVE AREA that was given ti Emperor Haile Sellase in February, 1954. Britain specifically included the then Somaliland Constitution in 1960, that we should negotiation with Ethiopia about the return of that land. What is holding us? Ethiopian government knows that this land belongs to us, specially EPDF who were against the injustice and monarchy.
We are not claiming Ethiopian territory, but ours, and this is the time, that we first get our share of the 5th Province, and negotiate the return if the current situation is not improved for our people there.
Can not you tthank full to the ethiopians who have helped you to go to schools, drink clean water and live a good life out of nomads. We are teaching you to be a human being and you have started to complain insted of saying thank you. Do you like you poeple to continue som you was a primitive nomads of the desert somalian region like ten years ago?
tete
You have a somali region under your feet unjustly and you kill and rape the people who reside there and you ask them to be thankful. Sooner or later Ethiopia will have no choice than to let the 5th region go like how they let erriteria go
This author deserves Somaliland citizenship. He is more Somalilander than Somalilanders. He understands the dangerous enemies of Somaliland from far.
Thanks AL-Mutairi
Isse,
I hate to argue with someone who selectively & intellectually confines himself to the narrow knowledge of the last 50 years of Somali history. FYI Somaliland existed before Siyaad Barre and the union with Somalia. Regarding the officers, who were shot at the back, that is not a theory it is a fact and you wouldn't have said that if your brother or father were victims of this dirty betrayal of patriotism. I know this because I have lost a brother in that war, so please stop trying to become the jack of all trades and talk about facts and do not try sarcasm where there is no room for sarcasm. END of discussion.
wallahi somalis must be the most retarded and stupid people on earth! the criminial state of Ethiophia is in this moment colonizing a somali provinc, called somali galbeed, all somali clans lives inside that region, all clans is daily humiliated and killed by ethiophians, instead of unitying to liberate themself to gain freedoom and dignity, devolopment, we have choosed to attack each other, Ogaden national liberation front must change its name to " Western Somali Liberation Front" every clan, ogaden, hawiyie, Issaq, Isse, dulbahante, Gadabursi, etc, has to give their sons to this liberation front, it has to have good post-liberation plan on a multi-tribal indepedent " Westen somali region" the habashi is thinking we are animals since they divided us and looting our lands in the somali region.
Ps. This arab guy who is creating fitnah and hate between the somali people should stay of our internal affairs, we somalis are one people and will always be that, no arab or habashi can change that, go and write articles about your fellow arabs who is rigth now being raped in Palestine and Iraq and stay out of our business, you have nothing to do here.
Come on Afweyne boy, Who the hell you talking to? Go and fight whoever you want and spare us from your hypocritical and empty slogans, because we aren't gonna buy it.
Omer,
sorry to say this but I don't see anything wrong with what las anod boy said so why are you calling him afweyne boy o.0 Talk rational and civil before you attack people
p.s the arab guy is not creating fitnah but only pointing out that the western region is a multi somali clan so how can one call it 'Ogadenia' or ONLF while alianating other Somalis and then crying why other clans are not supporting. I mean they need to be realistic. The only things that I diagree with the artcle are some facts that brother isse pointed out.
I fully agree with the majority of your statements, but I would refrain from attacking fellow Muslims, like the Arabs, based on their ethnicity despite their great contribution to the weakening of the Ummah. At the end of the day, dear brother, Allah(swt) has made our people identical in language, culture, religion, and ethnicity; however, it we who have chosen to dictate our mutual destiny based on our trivial tribe affiliations.
I personally dislike when my fellow Somali brethren blame all their self inflicted problems on other nations. Ethiopia, US, EU, UN, or any external group would not have been able to achieve anything had we as Somalis been united in our HEARTS. It is normal for all external nations to pursue their self interest that is the way of the world; however, it is equally important for the host nation, in this case Somalia, to know where its true interest lays.
Put simply, most Somalilanders would have rejoined easily despite the past grievances had their been honest politicians in Mogadishu not bent on avenging Said Barre's defeat in the north, had the Majeertan been sincere in not pursuing their self belief that Somalia belonged to them, and had the Hawiya not been so wild.
Some prefer to call Somaliland an Island for better or worse and I tend to agree. For me and my family, Somaliland is an Island of peace both worth fighting and dying for. If all the other regions wish to build their areas we are ready to help, but if they wish to destroy themselves that is not our problem. Somalilanders do not prescribe to the notion that we will either rise together or fail together and we have proven that over the past 20 years by going it alone.
In Somaliland, it's WE RISE BY THE GRACE OF GOD AND LEAVE THIS WORLD BY THE WILL OF GOD. And nothing that happens in Mogadishu will ever change Allah(swt) Qadr. Unity is an important Islamic concept; however, most people fail to see that unity must be based on solid principles and not simply a fuzzy sense of belonging.
I really do not understand when people say " why do Somalilanders want to divide the country, our why do they not want to rejoin?" I say….20 years of God given peace, stability and prosperity. What do you have to offer that can beat that? Nothing!!! And so the other regions send their politicians to our area to try and destabilize our peace out of spite and jealousy. May Allah(swt) forgive them.
I disagree with this fake news. ONLF is not terrorist armed group, even the west doesn't find them as terroist.
The writer is a racist onlf has nothng 2do with the prblms thr in somalia i thinkv should be mature enough wen it comes to matter of somali politics..wot kind of relationship do exist btwn ogaden en somaliland?you are fighting 4 seccesion the same thng ogadens are yearning for so plz withdraw your malicious and ambigous statement
how about all of you focus on Somaliland recognition instead of being fixated on Ogaden and their struggle to independence. ONLF is fighting their own battle and the world knows they are fighting a nationalist movement to independence. please dont enter our ocean..lol
this is why their is O in the ONLF, Ogaden will become free and independent and never will it join somalia, and when its free we will call it the "Ogaden Republic" Ogaden has decided their faith long time ago, we have decided to be part of and work with Kenya, establish Azania, and Free Ogadenia, their is no need to dig up conspiracies, Ogadenia is for Ogaden, the British knew it 100 years ago, and habeshi people know it today, no matter what this buffoon writes, Ogaden will always remain in power.
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this terrorist group should be destroyed forever and the horn Africa should have a peace
I have kept silent on this subject but no more. The brothers in Ogadeen can't say all of Soomali Galbeed belongs to them. Yes, Ogadeens have historical and legal reason to call a substantial part of the region as their own. But there are many other Somali clans that call this land as their own and do also have historical and legal rights to the region.
This is my unbiased view of the 3 individual and largest ethnic Somali clans in Soomali Galbeed:
Ogadens are the largest Somali ethnic group in the region
Isses are the 2nd largest Somali ethnic group.
Gadabursi are the 3rd largest Somali ethnic group.
Unless one can prove me wrong statistically, I stand by my assertions above.
Collectively when you combine rest of the Somali clans, exclusive of Ogadeens, there are more of them than Ogadeens alone.
@Jabuuti_Hanolaato
Remember Issa tribe got little in Somali Region. you should know that Issa is in Diradhaba region not Jigjiga region…. Gadabuursi and Isaaq, in addition to others are dominating the region more than Issa boy.
Moreover, what Issa want from Ethiopia, they already got Djibouti for them and they are enjoying independence and nation that belong to them and Affar, which are very little…. I think that Issa should be kept out of Ethiopia, and Ogaden must overtake its share, as Issa dont need anything from Ethiopia.
Dhagaxbuur boy
@ Dhagax boy,
Emotions aside, all I am saying is the three clans that are the most populous are Ogadeen, Isse and Gadhabursi in the Somali Region of Ethio., and in that order. I based my information on Ethios statistical agency. I am not disputing that Jigjiga has small population of Isse but I am saying there are more Isse in Ethio. than Isaaq or Gadhabursi combined. The Djibouti-Addis line, Diradhaba, Sh!n!le zone is all Isse. Just look at the Somali Region Administration, there are more Isse than Isaaq or Gadhabursi. These are all facts from the Ethio. government and CSA. In fact there are more Ogadeens in Dhagaxbuur than Isaaqs or Gadhabursi. Moreover, there are more Harari ppl than Isaaqs in Ethio. That is a fact too.
the person who wrote this article must be ignorant or got very big disease of tribalism which is found onli 1 place on the globe and 1 specific qabiil isaaq or watever other name you call them lol.
secondly, onlf they nt terrorist, they are freedom fighters and even bigest terrorist hunters never accept that.
and isaaq u are in trouble nw, cz see dhulbahante(ssc), awdal state godabiirase, they are so damn angery and cldnt tolerate ur stupid idea any more. u were claimin u have peace but nw ull see it gna be worsen than moqadisho. u guys dnt deserve peace even one day cz u 2 sick.
u are the onli tribe who dnt want somaliweyn and let me tell u can not challenge wid rest of somali. so stop day dreaming and wake up.
Either you gonna like it or not, ONLF going to achieve their goal insha Allah. Based on your sick mentality, ogadens are nothing in Zone 5; only to let you know Ogadens will rule you either under Ethiopian regime or after freedom insha Allah and in fact; they are ruling you now. Also, when you analyzing such issues try to be realistic; it is my first time and the last time to visit this webpage which is full of clannish and sick articles. Nevertheless, I am ogaden and I respect Isaaq and I treat them like brothers no matter what. Finally, to the administrator of this webpage: fitnada joji.