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My Visit to Mogadishu and Somali communities in the Gulf and East Africa

September 4, 2012   ·   93 Comments

Bakara market in Mogadishu is booming after the Islamist group Al Shabaab left the city a year ago

30 June – 19 August 2012

Report and policy recommendations by Osman Jama Ali (Kalluun)
Monday, September 03, 2012

I visited Qatar, Dubai, Nairobi, Mogadishu, Berbera (port in NW Somalia) during the first 3 weeks of July before returning to London via Dubai. My mission was to encourage dialogue and reconciliation, the philosophy that with IofC we have to carry out in order to revive the Somali state. I met businessmen, intellectuals, staff of international NGOs, former and present politicians, and people who are trying to be members of the coming government. My message to them was the message of Initiatives of Change, of reconciliation, accepting each other, a non-clan-based approach, encouraging peace, security and dialogue.

Change of mentality

A complete change has taken place in the mentality of Somalis in Somalia and in the diaspora. Before, everyone was trying to be clannish, and see other clans as not to be trusted. Now, after more than 20 years of civil war and hatred, people have suddenly put away their weapons and are accepting each other as Somalis, one nation.

The Capital

It is the first time since 1991 that the capital Mogadishu has had one authority. (The Mayor of Mogadishu is a graduate of IofC, trained in dialogue and reconciliation.) Before, Mogadishu used to have more than 20 warlords; every district was controlled by a warlord with a militia composed of his clansmen. When I was Deputy Prime Minister 2000-3, we could not visit any district of the city without taking armed guards. But now with only a driver, I visited every district of Mogadishu, by day or by night. It was safe! Before, only certain clans inhabited Mogadishu, but now there people of all clans and regions accepting to share the capital.

People from the diaspora are pouring into Mogadishu to participate in the reconstruction and revival of the capital. There are possibly 10,000 from the diaspora, from every country, who went back just to see. Hotels are full, there are so many cars on the roads. Revival is obvious when you go there. I was amazed how things have changed in a short time. The Shabab (terrorist organisation) have left the city and the surrounding areas because they have seen that the public are against them and not ready for more wars.

Somalis are sharing Mogadishu. There are so many people from all regions now in Mogadishu. When I used to go to ‘Somaliland’ and talk about unity, they used to say that if Somalia became peaceful, people would go there. It is the African way to only concentrate on the capital. This is weakening the secessionists and strengthening the unionists. The Somalis are accepting each other as one nation.

Effect of the International Community

We have to be grateful to the International Community (IC), which is giving real attention and facilitated the Somalis to create their own parliament. Previous parliaments were created outside Somalia – this is the first time that Somalis are selecting their MPs and government members. Now Somalis accept to sit together in their capital to put their own house in order. Important that Somalis work together now to consolidate. The IC is now united to help Somalis get rid of terrorist organisations, and piracy. The Somalis are getting a lot of attention because of that.

The London conference

The intergovernmental conference in London in February generated widespread international attention on Somalia. The fact that the UK, which is a member of the UN Security Council, and the country which accepted the biggest number of Somali refugees, focussed its attention on Somalia gave great hope to Somalis. And the UK has more experience with Africa than any other country. We felt this was the beginning of the revival of the Somali state. Because of the attention given by UK to Somalia, even the Gulf States and other Arab countries are giving more attention. Before they were not trying to fight piracy or terrorism, but they are now fully on board.

Importance of the UK Somali diaspora

Somali citizens of other European countries come here because of the language. So the Somali community in Britain are the biggest and most active diaspora in Somali. The UK Somali diaspora sends back more money to Somalia than any other diaspora. The diaspora in Europe, North America and Australia have learned a lot from the people they lived among. These people have a great influence on Somalis inside Somalia and are now teaching them about the philosophy of democracy.

Dreams of revival

Everyone says, ‘We will soon be one of the most developed countries in Africa. ‘First suffered, first recovered.’ We are in a strategic position, with the longest coast-line in Africa, with petrol, gas, mineral, marine resources, life-stock, agriculture and only 10 million people. Many companies are now contacting them to exploit the resources, because of the attention given by Britain, Turkey and the IC. It gave great hope.

Corruption

The corruption and nepotism of the previous governments have been exposed by the Report of the Monitoring Group on Somalia and Eritrea to the Chairman of the Security Council Committee concerning Somalia and Eritrea. Now the IC will not agree to give money without the proper controls. Bribery for political gain is being revealed and our hope is that the corruption will be controlled. Clannish and corrupt people will be the focus of attention which was not the case before. Now the expenditure Somali government will be monitored by the IC, and gradually corrupt and clannish people will be expelled, particularly because the diaspora will not tolerate it. Ordinary people are talking about the corruption.

Piracy

Piracy is reducing because of the intervention and activity of the IC. In the last 6 months piracy has diminished by 80% and it will end soon, because of the hope that came, and because people have courage to denounce the pirates. Many Somalis are sending goods from the Gulf, and when the pirates started attacking Somali dhows, people turned against them.

Policy recommendations

1. Need for international support to continue

We need the guidance of the IC until we have real stability and security. There is some security due to people being tired of conflict, but this has to be encouraged. The government and MPs won’t have the resources to do

Osman Jama Kaluun

Osman Jama Kaluun

everything they want to do, so the guidance of the IC is very necessary. The priorities are the monitoring of finances and expenditure, the creation of political parties rather than clan-based parties, decentralisation – giving the people their voice – clannism, nepotism and corruption must be fought. Because the Somali institutions are weak, the IC must guide.

2. Why federalism is not appropriate for Somalia

Federalism, with its ‘presidents’ in each regional capital, will not help the unity of the Somali people. The idea of a Somali federal state came from Ethiopia. However, in Ethiopia, federalism is based on ethnicity. It is not appropriate for Somalia which is the most homogeneous state in the whole of Africa (one ethnicity, one language, one religion). More importantly, most Somalis believe that Ethiopia is proposing federalism for Somalia as a way of dismembering Somalia into five weaker clan-based states (Somaliland, Puntland, Benadirland, Bayland and Jubbaland). Somalia needs democratic, decentralised administrative regions coordinated by a unified national authority.

The IC needs to encourage bottom-up, geography-based approach, rather than the clan-based approach. Local administrations at village, district and regional level must be created and encouraged. After independence, the civilian and the dictatorial governments from 1960-91 used to nominate the district and regional administrators. This has to be decentralized, and the district commissioners and regional governors have to be elected by the people to democratize the society.

3. Army and police recruitment should not be clan-based, but geography-based

The recruits for the national army and police force must be drawn from every region, with the districts putting forward their own candidates. Until 1991 the majority of the Somali army and police were uneducated recruits from the rural areas. Urbanisation happened very rapidly, and there are a lot of university graduates in every region. Now there is a huge army of unemployed graduates and secondary school leavers in every town. They should be recruited and trained to be officers and soldiers which would create employment opportunities. In time they can effectively replace the foreign troops.

4. Somali diaspora as ‘Peace Corps’/‘Overseas Volunteers’

Now that the IC is guiding the parliament and the future government, the hope of the Somalis is very great. As the great powers came through civil and international wars, so Somalia is emerging from its wars, and the huge diaspora, which gained experience and education in the advanced world, is now teaching the masses. In the 1960s when most African countries got their independence, the British and Americans used to send students to Africa to go to the towns and villages as overseas volunteers. The same can be done with the European and American Somalis who can be enabled to go back for 2-3 years to teach the Somalis what they have learnt.

There is great hope that the real revival of Somalia is beginning!

By Osman Jama Ali (Kaluun)

September 3, 2012

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Readers Comments (93)

  1. Kayse says:

    Excellent analyses Mr Kallun. This is the fact. Himself he is from Somaliland region and been there done that and knows nothing is better than a unified and strong prosperous Somalia.

    Not sure why the Habashi in parts of the north want to run away. One of these days I am going to become the new and more dangerous Osman Kallun…watch out for "Kayse Libaaxa Badaa (shark)"

    Kallun your lucky if you didn't end up in Las Qorey Tuna factory.

    • Kayse Libaaxa Badaa says:

      Yes it's official, I am now Libaaxa badaa Waqooyi. Somali Republic lives on and lives in all of us. If we have these current divisions we will disappear all together like the dinosaurs. I rather have 1…2….5 Isaaqis dead in the hands of Somali tribes than have all northern Somalis disappear in the hands of Habashi.

      • kaboon says:

        i hope you die a painful death

        • Puntland geezer says:

          If you wanna be free of aids than stay with Somalia cuz we are clean but if you want aids and die of a painful death then go ahead run to thier your habesha master.

        • Kayse Libaaxa Badaa says:

          Why do you want the Shark dead walaal? I am trying to save you from isolation, another 200 years of no recognition by which then you all die out and Ethiopia's diseases and hidden war.

          One of these days you guys will stop been widows and be man enough and take your lion share of your Somalia. Ethiopia is the one that is occupying you, spying on you, refusing you business, etc and recognition.

          Somalia just cares about your own well being. Stop been a woman and don't listen to those emotional women and let us take our share of what God gave us…the Somali Republic.

          Not sure why you want to cuddle with two subclan members…masaasada iyo muujuriica (baby bottle) kama waynataan miya?

          You guys are like a little fat boy at school who got his soccer ball stolen and now refusing to go outside with the ball again "hooyo lakiin faqash will take it again…never will I repeat that 1960 mistake again, no fresh air for me….hooyo albabka ii xiidh aan ooye"

          • Mogadishu says:

            @ Kayse Libaaxa Badaa
            Wallahi Somali dhab ah ayaad tahay.I salute you!

            Greetings to all Real Somalis like Kayse.

             
          • amal says:

            Kayse,
            Yes Ethiopia has diseases and hidden war against all Somalis including Somaliland and this started 1977 when the world has witnessed the Somali might. But why are you spreading fitnah and hate if you care about your country and want to unite the Somali people. Looks like you are causing more fitnah by constantly unleashing unrestrained attacks on Somaliland people especially certain groups, so how on earth can you influence anyone with sound mind.

             
          • khaatumo citizen says:

            Amal becareful Kayse wants to win u over to join his group lool it's called NORTH SOMALIA LIBERATION MOVEMENT

             
          • amal says:

            khaatumo citizen,
            Kayse does not want to win us over but he wants to chase us away with his new SBM gang. SBM = Somaliland Burburus Movement lol

             
          • khaatumo citizen says:

            amal, loool @SBM, but some landers are too emotional like the dude calling himself Kaboon, apart from the political differences we Somalis are all ONE big family.

             
          • mohamed cheers says:

            NSLM..that Nairobi inspired Khaatumo seeg which is now a failure.
            Kayse goes down as well with NSLM.
            Cheers.

             
          • Kayse Libaaxa Badaa says:

            amal walaal I apologize if I have offended you in anyway but its frustrating to see our people grieving people who died 25 years ago and as a result of this don't see the big picture.

            Even under Islam widows are not allowed to mourn for more than five months, the exact figure is 4 months and 10 days.

            Look our people have been mourning the dead for 25 years. All they see in life is Siad Bare, war and recognition.

            Somalia is not all war and a war with a brother is better than being a slave of Habashi. Iyagoo ciidlo ka helaya aya ka xuun.

            Anigu markan wadanki tagay I travelled to the Somaliland/Ethiopia border and nothing is allowed from Somaliland. Everything is contraband and you guys want everything for them. Why?

            They have over 5000 troops on the border and to be honest Somaliland only had 1 man wallahi and few days later I saw him in Hargeisa.

            Why do you guys want that kind of domination? Intaa dacawo ka ordayseen libaax gaal ah aya afkaa uu gasheen and many of you only see tribe card…you have no clue how much our people want United Somalia.

            They all want strong nation, many of them got displaced from their land in Ethiopia…now they are refugees in Hargeisa.

            Not sure why you guys are crazy about this tribal Council in Morgan's House.

            I want a real powerful nation.

             
          • amal says:

            Kayse walaal it's not me you offending but an entire qaran, you have no idea how hard our people worked to get this far. You keep saying we are mourning well maybe you and your family were all in Ethiopia and in comfort zone but our people went through hell; marginalization, rape, genocide, air bombing, people got burnt alive… why? Were they not human and Muslims, were we not Somali citizens and the same people who took all their education and hard work to Mogadishu. How can we just forget and pretend nothing happened and all is jolly good

            We are not just mourning we just don't want to ever be ruled again by Mogadishu the city with dark history of killing and oppression yet everything revolves around it …. and now we came really far alone so If Somalia wants union with Somaliland again and they are really serious about it and serious about Somaliweyn then a long process of reconciliation is needed because we are not willing to settle cheaply like before when we lost our sovereignty. Only then after heads come to agreement based on a common ground and understanding can we work together to regain the lost Somali power otherwise we'll just continue to fight and remain all weak

             
          • amal says:

            No matter how much people just see Somaliland as a non-existent and a fairy tale, Somaliland is reality even if our foreign policy is a failure and we are unrecognized; it worked against all odds for two decades when we were even weaker and is still capable to work against all odds so cheap shots will not bring it down like that

             
          • Cudon says:

            if you hate southerns so much especially Daroods as you said they raped you and commit genocide against your clan then why are you claiming parts of Harti territory (eastern sanag, sool and buuhoodle district) this really doesn't make sense to me and don't bring this we been colonised by the same mosters maybe you should claim Kenya as well since they been colonised by the British. sorry but we will never eccept to be part of a enclave built on bitterness and hatred it doesn't matter how many times aad kolba mid Qamandi soo siisaan our Garaads are on the right track

             
          • Kayse says:

            Ok we will let you guys have half Hargeisa and half Burao and not sure about Berbera because the locals hate secessionism and Habashi.

            We majority Garhajis and Isse Musse as well as Arabs and Ayub's want nothing to do with the little mourning project nor do Samaroons, Isse or Hartis.

            So where will those two subclans go?

            I advise you guys to move to Gambella Ethiopia since you guys even have same flag and same language and perhaps religion.

             
          • amal says:

            Kayse, if that is the case how about a vote and we go with the majority. SL is not two sub clan i tell you that and it's not just mourning but people came together to make that choice nor will we back down without a real worthy reason.

             
          • amal says:

            Cudon, who is talking about your few horse men in the east nor have I mentioned darood. Somalia is NOT about darood. I was only talking about what happened in the north that people belittle or deny. I'm afraid for Somaliweyn to be possible you need the support of the northern dominant clan which is isaaq for those who talk about bringing Somaliweyn.

             
          • Cudon says:

            okay true Somalia is not about Daroods it belongs to all somalis. but Hartis are the second largest clan in north somalia so order for you to pursue this dream you need thier support. and majority of somalis support one somalia including isaaqs. iminka waa i fahantay nooh

             
          • amal says:

            Cudon,
            if majority of somalis in the north support one Somalia including isaaqs then Somaliland will not still be standing till now. The only reason is still life and kicking till now is because majority isaaq and samaroon who make up the majority want freedom and statehood. However if what you say is true then perhaps we may ask them to vote and we go with the majority. At the end of the day is the people on ground you need support from not diaspora or few politicians

             
          • mohamed cheers says:

            Amal..watch out your style, sometimes your statements look like
            somewhat weak and contradictory?
            Cheers.

             
          • amal says:

            mohamed cheers,
            Which part looks contradictory walaal? It's true if we have vote and referendum you will be overwhelmed by majority who will choose independence so their argument that the majority wants union is a lie and that is what I was referring to. Somaliland is standing strong because majority of the people on the ground wants it.

             
    • mohamed cheers says:

      Same as Khaatumo seeg of NSLM failed you are as well done with. Good riddance.
      Cheers.

      • khaatumo citizen says:

        LOL Mo Cheese the only reason u support sectionalism is because of old man Sii'lanyo, iska sug Sii'lanyo ictiraaf noo keenaya

        • mohamed cheers says:

          who's mo cheese? you mean mohamed cheers? inabti stay out of my trbles lol.
          Cheers.

  2. Somaliland says:

    Sir,

    If you think Somaliland is part of your crazy equation, you are just day dreaming. Never again, will Somaliland repeat the mistake it made in 60"s. It might take us another 100 years but will not give our hard-fought sovereignty to corrupt self-centered people like you whether you were from Somaliland or Somalia.

    If you are so obsessed with Mogadishu, please go ahead and be part of them but, please do not drug Somaliland into your wildest dream.

    • Abdisalam Jamal says:

      That is an honest and very much true comment because people should understand that the unity of 60''s had no any legal element that make contract of unity binding that tells us there were no unity at all. what am advising these sick people they should leave the Republic of Somaliland Alone as they have decided their Destiny no one can change as it is the people's Decision Full Stop.

    • hamsa says:

      As you said friend, may it take 100 years ..Somaliland will be back as an Independent Sovereign Country, inshaalah. We Somalilanders will see to that!

      People already died for this Country.

    • Truth says:

      @sOMALILAND……IF YOU WANT TO SECESS SO BADLY, TAKE 'Woqooyi Galbeed'' with you and leave the rest alone. THE SAME WAY YOU (IS@@QS) DON'T WANT TO BE DRAGGED IN TO SOMALIA, YOU SHOULD STOP DRAGGING OTHERS IN TO SOMALILAND. SIMPLE!!!

      • kaboon says:

        go away you smelly dar00d

      • hamsa says:

        @ Truth

        Yes, ..WE WANT OUR INDEPENDENCE BACK VERY BADLY! SORRY BROTHER, NOTHING PERSONAL!

        We are going to take our Somaliland back to freedom, nothing more, nothing less, every single inch that decided to Unite with Italia-Somalia. PEOPLE OF SOMALILAND WANTED UNITY IN 1960, PEOPLE OF SOMALILAND WANTS INDEPENDENCE NOW. GET OVER IT BROTHER.

        IT DOES NOT AND WILL NOT HELP YOU EVEN IF YOU USE TRIBAL CARDS. YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST WHEN IT COMES TO TRIBE TRIBE TRIBE. EVERYTHING YOU SEE, YOU VIEW IT THROUGH YOUR PREJUDICIAL TRIBAL LENSES. adah ku diib qabaah!

        We are not dragging anybody, just like Somaliland was not dragged when we went for UNITY with Italia-Somalia as it was called then.

        Salaams

    • Truth says:

      The south and north were both called Somaliland (Italian Somaliland and Britain Somaliland), the reason for that is SOMALILAND MEANS ''The land of the Somali people''. They opted the name Somalia together when both territories were freed from colonialism in 1960 and formed THE SOMALI REPUBLIC. Before the colonial times you were not called Somaliland nor were you a country during or before the colonial times, what makes you think you can claim a country now? And the most important of all, how can you (Is@@qs) speak for the future of a whole region when your inhabited area is just ''WOQOOYI GALBEED'', between ''AWDAL'' AND ''KHAATUMO''? IF YOU WANT TO SECESS SO BADLY, TAKE 'Woqooyi Galbeed'' with you and leave the rest alone. THE SAME WAY YOU (IS@@QS) DON'T WANT TO BE DRAGGED IN TO SOMALIA, YOU SHOULD STOP DRAGGING OTHERS IN TO SOMALILAND. SIMPLE!!!

      • kaboon says:

        dar00ds are dreaming these days.

      • hamsa says:

        @ Truth

        Ironically, you talk like a foolish man who refuses to accept a the "Truth".

        You say .."Before the colonial times you were not called Somaliland nor were you a country during or before the colonial times, what makes you think you can claim a country now? "

        "Before the Colonials.." how did the whole of Africa look like? Do you actually know? Africa did not have the 54 countries it has now! For your information the African continent had much more states/kingdoms. Some estimates there were over 10,000 tribal lands or states or kingdoms. The International Laws and African Union Laws is what will determine whether Somaliland is entitled to become an Independent Sovereign State Again, just like it was in 1960!

        Yes, like it or not, according to AFRICAN UNION LAWS after the Colonials left Somaliland, WE BECAME A COUNTRY!

        You need to Go and Learn how to debate and frame arguments in a logical and constructive manner! ehm, by the way 'LOGICAL AND CONSTRUCTIVE' MEANS YOU HAVE TO ARGUE WITHIN THE RULES OF AFRICAN UNION & INTERNATIONAL LAWS, this is what governs the world!

        SINCE YOU LOVE CAPITAL LETTERS, PERHAPS THIS WILL HELP ……AWDAAL!, KHAATUMO!, what are you talking about? You need to grow over your TRIBALISM MENTALITY MATE! We leave TRIABALISM to SOME OF YOU IN THE SOUTH-SOMALIA, THAT IS PUNTLAND ALL THE WAY TO SOUTH SOMALIA! YOU LOVE TRIBAL, AND LOVE TO ACCUSE SOMALILAND AS ALWAYS ISAAQ THIS ISAAQ THAT!

        Salaams

  3. Pumtlandgeezer says:

    Lmao somaliland is dead and we gona make it stays that way.
    Viva somalia

    • Abdiwahab says:

      not if pirateland breaths lol

  4. Awosome says:

    how stupid of somaliland hatters collect there. plz say some thign right

  5. WANLAWYN says:

    excellent article and analysis. Somalis needed a bush from outside world to move from anarchy to peace that the world is helping they never want go back to that again. never in a million years will Mogadishu have all out war never in a million years will Somalis agree to fight for control of government along tribal lines. they have indeed learned the hard way that no tribe can subdue another. Siad Barre did not come to power with the help of his tribe but with the help of many Somalis. shabab controls only the town of Barawe they even fled big city of Kismaayo. it is now up to us to size the moment and bring to somalis back who live as second citizen in Europe and Arabian hellholes like Saudi and Yemen and rebuild our country which is much better than Yemen desert.

  6. ComeAgain says:

    SomalilandPress fa qash press Ive been saying it for awhile now!

    • PuntlandGeezer says:

      we gona take over you land, your properties & your woman.
      VIVA Faqash

  7. Abdiwahab says:

    no wonder his name is called kalluun lool he has the intelligence of a fish – i dont hate somalians but its for the best that we are separate because union means failure and to do a reunion equates to madness like einstein says "doingthe same thing again and again but expecting something different is a sign of insanity"
    VIVA REP. OF SOMALILAND

    • PuntlandGeezer says:

      move to zimbabwe mate and pretty girls leave them for us so we can marry them.

  8. hornid says:

    Comparing Somaliland into a clan based state like Puntland, very BS at least I respect more a unionist person who recognize Somaliland was a sovereign state for 5 days…Does Author read carefully London communique at point 6 which invite Somalia and Somaliland to discuss in order to clarify their future relations ?

    • mohamed cheers says:

      Dont say 5 days..say from Independence day to doomsday. I hate hearing 5day Sovereignty bs.
      Put your act together chief.
      Cheers.

      • khaatumo citizen says:

        it was actually 4 days june 26 to 1st of july loooool

        • mohamed cheers says:

          The following reply was meant for misslovely, the system screwed me upsidedown.
          ………….
          Is he really aga cagdheer, if so, he should be transported to Garowe to beprosecuted
          and grilled in broad day light for all to see cuz he has already caused enuf problems for impersonating the already bad reputation of the Faroole's renegade puntland integral part of Somalia. Dhabayoco won't spare him, you know that lol. According to the geographical nature,
          I always believed that Ogadenia is more closer to Somaliland and Djibouti than greater Somalia. Because, Somaliland, Djibouti and Ethiopia have more common bonds when it comes to contemporary politics. Therefore, read my lips, Ogadenia can never play some dirty politics without the blessings of Ethiopia,Somaliland and Djibouti.
          Cheers.

        • mohamed cheers says:

          Whatever, that's the official birth certificate. no country is born twice. okay smartie darling lol
          cheers.

        • Dhuguse says:

          @Khaatumo citizen
          Com'on! You're even trying to make gains out of 5 days. We know the independence of Somaliland began one minute after the midnight of 25th June 1960, so let us make a physical count again – 26 Jun, 27 Jun, 28 Jun, 29 Jun and 30 June. Surely, this shows how serious you are. But, remember one thing, whether Somaliland reunites with Somalia or not, your origin will never change.

          • khaatumo citizen says:

            is because I'm not good at Maths lool jks, my origin is Somali walalo, caadi iska dhig.

             
  9. mohamed cheers says:

    MR Kallun immigrated to Somalia and chose to become a permanent citizen of that country
    like many other Somaliland born citizens. That's understandable, but he or the others like him
    have no right to meddle in the political issues of Somaliland where they are no longer true
    citizens of their country of birth. Mr Kallun or the others ex-landers who choose to become
    Somalia citizens have no legal rights to engage themselves in anti-Somaliland slogan
    political campaigns undermining the de jure legit rights of the Sovereign State integrity of
    Somaliland with its clear International demarcation borders…referring to as secessionist is
    utter bogus?. The Somaliland Govts should have clear policies about any born S.lander
    who becomes a citizen of another country and engages anti-Somaliland political slogan
    campaigns should be considered a serious crime. Mr. Kallun is wrong to undermine the
    legit integrity of Somaliland.
    Cheers.

    • Truth says:

      LOOOOOOOL You guys truly live in a fairytale world!! ''MR Kallun immigrated to Somalia'', that statement itself is laughable and it shows how retarded actually you are!! The south and north were both called Somaliland (Italian Somaliland and Britain Somaliland), the reason for that is SOMALILAND MEANS ''The land of the Somali people''. They opted the name Somalia together when both territories were freed from colonialism in 1960 and formed THE SOMALI REPUBLIC. Before the colonial times you were not called Somaliland nor were you a country during or before the colonial times, what makes you think you can claim a country now? And the most important of all, how can you (Is@@qs) speak for the future of a whole region when your inhabited area is just ''WOQOOYI GALBEED'', between ''AWDAL'' AND ''KHAATUMO''? IF YOU WANT TO SECESS, TAKE 'Woqooyi Galbeed'' with you and leave the rest alone. SIMPLE!!!!

      • Warqabe says:

        @Truth
        I think you are a minor! May I ask you this, what were the names of the two regions that united 1st July 1960?

        LESSON NUMBER ONE

        In 1st July 1960, Somaliland and Somalia united then became Somali Republic. Somaliland + Somalia = Somali Republic.

        LESSON NUMBER TWO

        Somalilanders had never being the citizens of Somalia and the people of the two countries were called Somalilanders and Somalians.

        • wanlaweyn says:

          on 1st of july 1960 British somaliland and italian somaliland united according to western history.

          according to somali people in 1960 occupied north somali people and occupied south somali

          people united to form a country they called "Somali Republic" ( jamhuuriyada soomaalida)

          "lesson number two"

          somali people are called Somalis wherever they are even in "Djibouti" and "Ogaden".

          give your lessons to ignorant Nomads in your village. in 1960 all the colonial borders in somali

          territories have been occupied by and "legally" given by Kenya and Ethiopia and the rest freed

          and formed somali republic Aka Somalia. no lawyer or super power can force the somali people

          to recognize one tribe in the expense of other tribes like dhulbahant and simaron

          • Gedi says:

            You have just awaken up from sleeping mate! Tell me when it was called Italian Somaliland? Forget what the British used to call them but tell me what the Italians called that territory which was under their yoke? Can you also tell the difference between Somaliland and Somalia linguistically?

            For your own good, take the following history lesson.
            From March 1942 till 1950 Somalia was under British Military Administration after Italy was defeated by the British during the World War-II. In 1950 Somalia became a trusteeship of United Nations, however, Italy came back to Somalia as a caretaker under the mandate of United Nations. Literally, the Italian colony of Somalia was terminated by the British in 1942. So, before 1st July 1960, the territory under UN mandate was known as Somalia by IC, .

             
          • wanlaweyn says:

            you so called history lesson is flawed. first of all it was 1941 and not 1942 when Britain invaded Italian somaliland at it was known then having said that, it is irrelevant to the discussion whether between 1950-1960 south Somalia was known as somalia or italian somaliland what is more important is that both of them were called somaliland as a surename beforehand by colonial powers and somalis were respected along tribal borders and we had no country whatsoever i don't really care if your clan decides to secede "waqooyi galbeed"

             
  10. khaatumo citizen says:

    well done Mr Kaluun, great article.

  11. FARAH JABANE says:

    Excellent, Mr Osman Jaama Ali (Kaluun) I have no doubt you’ll have golden page in Somali history, please keep what you are doing, you absolute make me cry when I read your report, the relationship I have to you is your my follow Somali, I was born in Galkaio, (Mudug region) but I grow up in southern Somalia where I was educated by Somali State, you are legend and true patriotic Somalian.

  12. sahra says:

    abdiwahab mr insult stop making comments pleasssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

  13. E.CHIRE says:

    what country are you talking about I think you should talk about the south or Somaliland .Second how a website called somaliland press will post a garbage like this I do beleive you are on the same boat like qaran news IN ADDITION IT IS MY LAST TIME TO OPEN UP.

    • hornid says:

      My question is to know if Faqash or walalwayn website are able to post an article in favor to Somaliland independence?? That 's why we are always above zoomalia lol

  14. sahra says:

    mohamed cheers you have no right to tell another somaliland citizen what they can say aboutt the political issues their part of the region.

    • mohamed cheers says:

      Sahra lol wa ku jeedha darling peace lol
      Cheers.

  15. E.CHIRE says:

    I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO HIRE OSMAN JAMAC FAQASH TO DO THIS DIRTY PROPAGANDA.

  16. sahra says:

    this faqash word has lost it lust it become joke on you

  17. sahra says:

    kaboon they still have not admitted you to the mental hospital i will help you I am in Toronto

  18. Saleebaan Xaaji says:

    A leapord can never change his spots. Osman Jama is still stuck in the past. It is great to see that things are improving in Somalia. But, when he says that Somalia needs a central authority, he is clearly ignoring the reality on the ground. Whilst Osman has been enjoying life in Europe, he has missed the most important lesson learnt by all Somalis from the last two decades " You cannot force people to accept what they do not want", and Somaliland doesn't want anything to do with Somalia.

    Certainly, there will be social, cultural and economic ties between Somaliland and Somalia, but never again, political ties. That is a non-starter. However, Somalia wants to survive, federal, confederation, and so on. It has nothing to do with Somaliland.

    part 1

  19. Saleebaan Xaaji says:

    Osman Jama cannot sell this in Somaliland. No Somalilander is buying what he is selling. Somalis are all about what is my interest? and Somaliland's interest is to be a sovereign and independent nation.

    The days of "pan-Somalia" are dead and buried. Djibouti is gone, NFD is gone, Ogaden and Hawd are gone, and Somaliland is gone. Let us accept the reality, and instead of banging our heads against the wall and realise, that Somalis can live anywhere and everywhere, and still remain Somalis. After all even Osman Jama has a British passport and is a British citizen, but he is still a Somali!

    Twenty years of strive and war, has levelled the playing field, and no one in the Horn of Africa is buying the old rubbish, and the only one still peddling that nonsense is dinosaurs and those bereft of power and lost in no man's land.

    part 2

  20. misslovely says:

    @puntlandgeezer
    do you free yourself from your monsters ethopia and kenya mr cagdheer i know you are a cagdheer not dhabayoco free cagdheer before you talk about somaliland mr adoon

  21. sahra says:

    saleebaan Somaliland is death you are part of Somalia I know you are having hard time excepting it ok

  22. sahra says:

    misslovely there is nothing lovely about you period

    • kaboon says:

      there is nothing human about dar00ds like you

  23. Warqabe says:

    This piece from Osman Kaluun doesn't make any sense to Somalilanders, for they know him as the lost son of Mogadishu. Also, Osman Kaluun didn't contribute anything good to his place of birth (Somaliland) for the last 20 years. In early of 2011, he sneaked into Somaliland while President Silanyo was on official visit to UK and his sole aim was to be arrested upon his arrival at the Airport so as to create tensions in Somaliland. However, the Somaliland Govt. knew all about his games and decided to ignore him once and for all. Now, Somalilanders don't pay much attentions what Osman Kaluun writes or says at all.

  24. Abdi1234 says:

    We have confused soul commenting here known as Keysa/Sahra/ walowweeyn etc. This person has no class and no self-respect, he has lower IQ than Osman Kaloon, who knows that he can not survive without kissing the Faqash butt.

  25. sahra says:

    I am afraid for this people mental psychic there is no other way putting

  26. sahra says:

    abdi who has been journey for twenty-one years riding tired old bus talk about I Q self-respect do you even know what that means leave keysa alone

  27. HANNA says:

    I am from Marka, and wish luck and success for Somaliland people because they are not true to themselves, not undermiing each other….in Mogadishu every-one wants to have it all and rest become his underdogs….IT IS STILL NOT WORKING FOR US…GOOD LUCK SOMALILAND PEOPLE

  28. ayuub says:

    This is Faqash press or wht?

  29. ilyas says:

    Excellent artical, keep them coming. Somalilandpress, the site should be and must be for the interest of somali people, not the is@@q-habashi boys who suffer from a low self-esteem. I am not saying this because i am selfishly opinionated, but honestly, these guys got a serious psychological issues and i've seen personally so many of them, when asked, "where you from?", they feel so much ashamed to say i am somali. They love to peel off their real orrigin and stick to british/arab/anywhere. What a useless and sad individuals.
    Love you SOMALIA and wherever you take me, you are my land and i am forever your son

  30. Mohamd says:

    This man is old and his claptrap of contradictory statements does not help his cause. He can clearly see the discriminations that is rive in Zoomalia since he is a second class citizen just for being a "qaldaan".

    The jobs in Muqdisho all go to Muqdisho ppl because they consider Muqdisho to be "theirs/mugeena". Those ppl are only looking after themselves and are much better than this Kaluun character who has no respect for himself or his own origins.

    Look at his own children, none of them is of sound mind.

  31. isaaqunionist says:

    Osama Jama is a hero :)

  32. PuntlandGeezer says:

    @misslovely
    i am a married man so please respect me.

  33. E.CHIRE says:

    The so called Somaliland press i a faqash press

  34. Saleebaan Xaaji says:

    The sad thing is that Osman Jama loves Somalia, that is his right, but, those in power in Somalia don't want him becasue he is from Somaliland, and Somaliland doesn't want him either. Perhaps he can run for the local council in London, maybe even an MP! or perhaps he should understand that his time is gone, there is a new generation in Somaliland who have known nothing but Somaliland. They don't even know who or what Osman Kalluun is!

    Somaliland has decided its own destiny. Let there be no doubt about that.

  35. m.ali says:

    what a sad story for khatuumo dissidents. They travelled thousand kms to Mogadishu and Ahmed Khalif the leader of SSC never got a vote to become even a speaker of parliament in Somalia.That is clear lesson, Southrners attitude is sameand will never change. Some one from North will never get President or a Speaker. While there are many dulbahantes living in peace and are in the Somaliland government holding senior position. The anti Somaliland will never learn lessons. They will never get any senior positions in the ogernment. That is a fantancy dream for khatuumo dissidents. Somaliland is were they belong, whether they like it or not.

    • Khadar says:

      That's the Darod spirit M. Ali finger pointing at southners and trying to take credit of Somaliland. For Shame.

      • Cudon says:

        nobody supported Ali khalief galyd to win not even dhulb@hantes as he was trying to get in the way for Daroods becoming next president or PM, but he won more then 77 votes. and for your information half of Isaaq clan are in Mogadishu to get thier lion share, what do you have against dhulb@hantes and khaatumo state as they not even part of somaliland. nabadana inaka ayaa keensaynay markaa wax kale ood cridit to raadsatid doono sxb. somaliland wax lagu dawarsado weeye nothing else.

  36. m.ali says:

    TO @ Truth,

    Let me remind you Somaliland formerly was called Britis Protected Somaliland. They got independence on 26/06/ 1960 and their flag was blue and star. It is the same flag they brought to join with Italian Somaluiland. Before they joine it was recognised by 60 countries of the world bearing in mind the rest of Africa was still under colonial rule. Wake and understand the history of Somaliland

  37. Kayse says:

    This is the Garadagland flag: http://i49.tinypic.com/a10hno.jpg

    I know Osman Kalun will never accept that. I want Kalun to introduce me to some of the key Somali political players, I'm going to bring some hard ball to the table and if we don't strategize today; 20 years from today, the north might become an Ethiopian colony.

    I have non-violent visionary ideas for how we can tackle that and plant occupation resistant seeds. It seems our people think with emotions rather than rationally. Yes we are one disfunctional family but talking about what happened is not on. They base their argument around Siad Bare war; did the Samaroons had war with him? What about Hartis? So what gives you the right to hijack them and force them to grieve with you?

    Even we Isaaqis had our own war, should we grieve and go on about that too forever? What makes Isaaq war different to all the other Somali tribal wars?

    All wars are in the past and we going to rebuild Somalia…

    • amal says:

      looooooool you are losing it mate how on earth can Somaliland be colony of Ethiopia. SL is unrecognized so is weak now but if SL is recognized then two strong Somali countries that surround Ethiopia what's better than that.

      I don't hear much stories about isaaq war because it wasn't that big and only few guns were used but everyone got horrible stories to tell about siad barre's war and genocide because they went too far. By they way Somaliland is not built around siad barre war and mourning but is based on their initial independence of 1960 and is a unique case because of that. It was equal entity to Somalia so if any leader wants to bring Somaliland into the union they will have find ways to attract SL. You can't bring SL down by just talking and barking Mr internet warrior.

      most Samaroons unite with us because we can get something big for the north that we both benefit from as united a family hope hartis understand that too

      • khaatumo citizen says:

        we should just wait South somalia to unite and get their acts together then we will see, insha'allah khayr.

        • amal says:

          khaatumo citizen

          Agree with you inshAllah khair

  38. Xalimo says:

    Osman Kalluun and others like him Buuba Jama Ghaalib re. orpahn kids, confused and rejected by everyone especially their own tribes, they, want someone to adopt them, shame what a wast of talent and exprienece,

    • mohamed cheers says:

      Not only that but they have become old and used. forget them to die in their oblivion fancy world.
      Cheers.


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