Somaliland
Massive rallies held across Somaliland for unity, recognition and sovereignty
January 22, 2012 · 80 Comments
HARGEISA — Hundreds of thousands of people rallied across Hargeisa and Burao, two of the largest towns in Somaliland, on Sunday to support country´s separation from neighboring Somalia, sovereignty and its campaign for international recognition.
The protests, which coincided with the visit of a British diplomat who invited Somaliland leaders to attend an international conference on Somalia next month in London, follow days of skirmishes in eastern parts of the country.
In the capital Hargeisa, the rally was staged in Freedom Park where thousands gathered including senior government officials, MPs, speakers of Legislative Assembly, opposition groups, students and policy makers. They all offered their commitment and united front in support of Somaliland’s right to defend its territorial integrity if any threat is posed against the country.
“Any threat to our interests or security will force us to use all available options to defend our interests, and national and regional security,” Muse Bihi, the Chairman of the ruling Kulmiye party, told the crowd. Directing his comments at a tribal militia that has been gathering in Taleeh, in Sool region, Mr. Bihi added Somaliland will not be afraid to use force if they tried to spoil its stability.
Faisal Ali Warabe, the opposition leader of UCID Party, called on the residents of Las Anod, the provincial capital of the disputed Sool, to be vigilant and to choose peace and harmony over devastation and conflict. He warned the government that it must struck a balance between justice and fairness for all communities and not isolate a certain group.
The Speaker of the 82-member House of Representatives, Abdulrahman Mohamed Abdullahi, emphasized that the small group in Taleeh possessed no immediate threat to Somaliland’s territorial integrity. However, he called for maximum restraint and dialogue.
Vice President Abdulrahman Abdullahi Ismail, who was also present, said his government remains unwavering in their commitment to protect its citizens and provide justice to all.
In Somaliland’s second largest town of Burao, hundreds of thousands who staged unprecedented rally sang patriotic songs and chanted slogans in support of Somaliland’s self-determination and its unity. It was the biggest gathering in the town in recent years and it included senior government ministers, MPs, tribal elders, community and regional leaders, businesses, defense forces and students.
The protesters main message was that Somaliland can maintain its territorial integrity against its own domestic, regional and international foes.
Recently a tribal separatist militia held a meeting in the historical town of Taleeh, once the base of Sayid Abdullah Hassan, a religious fanatic and the late 19th century version of Osama bin Ladden, in which they declared the formation of a semi-autonomous state. The President Ahmed Silanyo said his government will not tolerate the disintegration of Somaliland during an emergency meeting of both Houses of parliament. An army unit was sent to the nearby town of Buhoodle and the conference in Taleeh came to an end.
The president reaffirmed his commitment to stability, development and peace and for the second time offered amnesty to the SSC militia and urged them to join hands in the struggle to move forward. The leader of the group, Suleiman Essa Ahmed (Hagal Tosiye) of Columbus, Ohio, told the BBC Somali-Services on Thursday that he welcomes President Silanyo’s proposal for peace talks. He also admitted that the Taleeh conference was hijacked by opportunist groups and that it no longer served the interest of the Dhulbahante clan. He pointed his fingers at the former Somali Prime Minister, Ali Khalif Galayr and his so called G9 group. He also expressed his strong dislike for the chosen name for the ‘new semi-autonomous state’ namely Khaatumo State. The residents in the region have adopted to call the state instead ‘Khaatumo Seeg’. It later became clear some of the participants of the conference were in favor of SSC state while others wanted Darwiishland. After a deep disagreement some of the participants fled back to Garowe, the capital of Somalia’s semi-autonomous state of Puntland while others left the country.
Somaliland is a former British protectorate that gained its independence in June 1960 but voluntarily unified with its southern neighbor few days later to form what was known as the Somali Republic. After years of armed struggle with Somalia that left more than 50, 000 civilians dead, it reinstated its independence in 1991 but has since failed to gain international recognition.
Somalilandpress
Biggest English-Somali news portal
Sunday, Jan 22, 2012
Follow @somalilandpressTags: Darwiishland, Khaatumo Seeg State, Recognition, Somaliland news, SSC state, Taleeh conference
Somaliland
Somaliland:Abdul Mohamed of Somaliland origin chosen as the new mayor of Southwark Borough of London
Cllr Abdul Mohamed was announced as the new Mayor of Southwark at Council Assembly ,Cllr Mohamed was Deputy Mayor last year, and replaces outgoing Mayor ...
Somaliland:The Vice President of Somaliland Speech to the House of Commons
Honorable MPs, Friends of Somaliland, Ladies and gentlemen, we are delighted to be received in this landmark of democracy, the mother of all parliaments, ...
Somaliland:SLNTV Partners with ETV of Ethiopia-Director
By Goth Mohamed Goth The Director General of Somaliland National Television Mr. Khadar Hassan Ali Gaas has met with Mr. Ottayo, the director of ETV ...
Somaliland: Edna as Keynote Speaker on End Fistula Day
Edna Serves as Keynote Speaker at International Day to End Obstetric Fistula The United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) designated May 23 as International Day to ...
Somaliland:Somaliland Success Story
A BRIEF HISTORY OF SOMALILAND AND ACCOMPLISHED SUCCESS Now the 22nd anniversary of Independence of Somaliland has passed in grace, peace, and enjoyment and Somali ...
Your Say
Somaliland:The ignored state in the horn of Africa
It is obvious that almost all African nations know nothing about the existing ground reality in Somaliland, the self proclaimed state in the horn of ...
- Somaliland:Ethiopian Prime Minister’s Speech on Somaliland on the 18th May 2013
- The Shining Somaliland: Those Who Think Somaliland Is Crumbling Or Uniting With Somalia Should Swallow Their Saliva
- Ethiopia:Why do Arabs regard the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam with “apprehension”?
- Somalia and the Slippery Slope of ‘Jubbaland’
- Somaliland:What Motivates Somalilander’s Opponents
- Somaliland:22nd Anniversary of Somaliland independence celebrations took place in multiple countries
- Ethiopia: The Corruption Game
- Somaliland should not be viewed as a renegade region from Somalia
- Somaliland:What Is Organizational Culture? And Why Should We Care?
- Somaliland: May 18th is a Remembrance Day.
Somaliland: Dahabshiil is epitome of altruism
The outbreak of civil war in late eighties had of course precipitated a disaster for Somali people, among the people who were deeply affected fiscally were ...
Somaliland:Somaliland Success Story
A BRIEF HISTORY OF SOMALILAND AND ACCOMPLISHED SUCCESS Now the 22nd anniversary of Independence of Somaliland has passed in grace, peace, and enjoyment and Somali ...
Sport
Britain’s Farah eyes Marathon record
Olympic champion Mo Farah has set his sights on adding to his growing collection of British long-distance records when he makes his full London Marathon ...
Farah had ‘no doubts’ about running marathon
British Olympic star Mo Farah claimed on Thursday that he never considered pulling out of the London Marathon despite the fatal bomb attacks in the ...
Somaliland:National Youth Football Tournament is once again postponed for the Third Time
The Somaliland Minister of Sports, Youth &tourism Hon Ali Said Raygal has announced yet postponement of the national youth tournament which was scheduled to kick-off ...
Somali football leagues complete season unmarred by violence
The Somali Football Federation (SFF) celebrated on Friday (December 14th) the conclusion of a local league season unmarred by violence, Somalia’s Radio Risaala reported. “This ...
Telesom donates $20,000 towards sporting event in Somaliland
Somaliland’s top telecom player Telesom on Monday presented a cheque for US$20,000 towards the upcoming national football tournament in Hargeisa. Presenting the cheque Ali Mohamed ...
Well done Somaliland and I did tell you if Taaleeh was left alone they will eat each others, its been only a week and they already finished each others. Ina Xaglatosiye is now on his way to Hargeisa because he is not one of the three so called president of Khaatuuuuf-mo (spits) State…They cant agree on one thing that is why they have 3 "presidents" how funny is that? Bunch of horse riding nomads…they think the horse has three backs.
Anyways the ones who ran to Garowe are Eng. Mahamuud Mohamed Ali (Cadami), eng. Ahmed Mohamuud Xandule and Awil Kaatun. They were spies for Abdirahman Farole.
Ali Isse is also on his way to Hargeisa, only Ali Khalif is hiding in Taleeh.
Kayse.. i do not know what kind of Koolaid you were drinking by bashing the new and strong Khaatumo Sate of Somalia (so strong that it necessitated massive demonstratons in Sland) of which the Dervishes were never part of. Taleh agenda is not finished.. the will of the people has been solidified. you predicted that we shall tear eacher other a part.. dissent and opposition is part of democracy. if we produced Khaatumo by tearing each other apart.. i call that success.
We will send Xaglatosiye after Ali Khalif, bring him to Buhodle dead or alive. Even Buhodle is now divided between Somaliland, Puntland, TFG, Khaatuuf-mo Seegto and SSC (Saleeban xagtoosiye). They just bunch of horsemen who never left those villages.
Xaglatoosiye Saleebaan Cise is on his way to Hargeysa with his main supporter Garaad Mohamed Adan Saleebaan Colaad. Game over. No more that little terrorist militia.
Why military in peaceful Borama??
SL army commander + our head of state = Reminds me the past black year of destruction of human tragedy. Where are we heading to folks? Why don't we give up mistrusts and become open to each other instead, before it too late, to safeguard what we have build over the last 20 years? Waa caqlixumo in aan wali laga dhaqaaqin halkii la taagnaa 1991.
Mohamed Cheers
I am sure you are not Somalilander. I advise you to reveal your true identity if you have one.
Your attempts of inciting hatred between Somaliland clans won't work. I suggest that you don't waste your time. Go and find some thing else to do or, may be, get a job.
Viva Smaliland!
Thank you for your voice of reason, Ahmed.
All the machismo from various commmenters detracts from the positive trend toward recognition, and a better life for Somalilanders. Good people, get past the bickering! Somaliland can be a beacon of democracy – with a single flame of unity.
Will Walsh
viva Somaliland. As a Habar Younis I support all Somalilanders who support each others country men. Somalia is occupied and all those who claim we are ashamed of being Somali are the ones hating on their fellow country men leading instead of an outsider. Shame on them. I am proud of Somaliland and what it has achieved. We are lions and true patriots.
Its not what they call us or by which name it the taking of what is rightfull yours? Our pride in our faith and believes is our enemies envy.
What's the matter. What's your problem with me. Tell me?
Cheers.
@Warya, Amal, Gobad, Kayse and Mohamed cheers,
I guess an impostor is using your names
Yes I know they were running after Gobaad but it' looks they are after me too. But I haven't seen
where I was impersonated, perhaps AhmedY should clarify?
Cheers.
mohamed cheers, it was deleted after I complain to SP to do something about people using others names. It is handled now.
Yes that is absolutely correct. These losers are low beyond belief.
Mohamed cheers, I guess you are bit lost and confused since you came late after SL deleted them all. All our names have been used by impostors to create a hate thread that incites tribal conflict between all the people of Somaliland. They even made it seem that you and warya was having a tribal argument and bashing on each others qabiil ( they even know your qabiils) It's a sick individual who is seeking attention so just give the thumbs down and SLPress will deal with it.
This is just internet forum but it reflects what they do in real life.
Okay amal. tks all the same.
Cheers.
Grow up and stop this cheap clanish talk………….
Obviously someone is using everyones name and trying to incite hatred between somalilanders .. maybe its that dumbass puntlandgeezer
Amal and Warya, somebody is impersonating me.
Hargeisawi-In-London, you are right. I know how Warya, Amal, Kayse and Mohamed cheers, comment. And I think that Somalilandpress to block these or tell them to be themselves instead of impersonating other people.
I am a somalilander born in Tanzania. I read a lot of gabbage on history of Somaliland. The first people to travel outside their country were from Somaliland, they were adventurists expl.oring the unknown teritories. The best and intellectuals were from Somaliland. When the late Siad barre ovethrow the democratically elected government, he found that his cabinet were saurrounded by many Isaaqs. The Darod clan started ethnic cleansing by implicating and fabricating cases that they intended to overthrow the government. One case was the late Prime Mnister of Somali the late Ibrahim Egal who later become the President of Somaliland. He was detained for many years including Omar Arteh Galib. In Somaliland different clans have inter married all clans, whether is Dulbahante who 99% have inter married with habar jeelo and habar yonis. same to Gadabuursi, they are married to Saad Musse clan. The issas and warsengeli same. Most of the people here laways talking Somaliland as an Isaaq government, but do they take time to find out ministers from clans which are not Isaaq, as well the members of parliamnet. Stop the vandetta against Somaliland, it existed many thousand years before Somalia was there.
big up my bro somaliland siku moja itakubalika kimataifa na hwa faqash watateswa na damu walizopoteza za wasomalilander
Gobaad, Warya, Amal and Mohamed cheers impersonaters, you just a low life who is trying to create fitnah bewtween Somalilanders. But we will not buy it. So. haddi aad sharaf leedahay you will use your own name instead of cowardly hidding behind somebody else's name.
I think this site has been taken over. Ever since it went off air recently it is different. Everything is for sale lately.
Puntland is desperate country and Somalia is occupied. Somaliland maintained its dignity despite the spoilers we are proud of our achievements. Too bad to those who cannot congratulate but choose to hate. History has been made. So read it and weap.
Puntland is a poisoned country with dead stinking fish at its shores. Famine, hunger and desperation has destroyed it. It is a product of propogation and lies. It will soon destroy itself.
Dollar doesn't mean anything when you are poison. As quick as it comes it can disappear. So fool yourself that you can achieve only with money. It can also destroy.
m. ali, they know that Somalilanders are intellectuals, better educated, peace loving with unbelievable patience who chose peace and stability over guns and destruction and built their country from scratch. Their intentions were to wipe out Isaaq from the face of the earth and it didn't work. So, because out of jealousy, grudge and hate against Somalilanders, they unleash their venomous comments to attack us. They are these kind of people, but as the saying goes: Gardaraystaa weligii ma guulaysto!
Dear Somalilandpress web master,
What is going on with your website, why are you allowing every nonsense, to be posted on your web. can't you screen and edit logical point from some stupid individual posting garbage and other clan bashing?
If you do not stop these uninformative and non intellectual posting, soon this website will be history and I am sure a lot of Somaliland enemies would like this to happen.
Boorama Somaliland rally where Somaliland was founded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu0W4jFoAak&fe…
To Hobsiye,
let the enemy of Somaliland spit their poison on somalilandpress. After all a gentleman is known for their wisdom and not insult and abusive language. Whatever they say will not change Somaliland. And mashalah everyday comes Somaliland are moving forward, while DKG the so called government of Somalia have to depend on foreign africam forces to assist them in containing the civil unrest. See the difference, why should you peole of Somaliland are wasting your energy in replying to those jealous and full of hatred of Somaliland. Because of theirt Hasid and undermining Somaliland the result is they dont have the peace, punishmnet by Allah. They are paying the price of what atrocities and crime committed against Isaaq.
Somaliland is a peaceful country
Somalilanders will not tolerate clannish or shall i say CHILDISH and FOOLISH comments being spread around by IDIOTS who clearly cannot differentiate right from wrong.
Somalilanders are not naive when it comes to people swearing and insulting their home country.
P.S Non-Somalilanders should take care of themselves before they criticize other people.
OH MY GOD
WHAT IS GOING ON
HOW L OOOOOOOOW IS TO IMPERSONATE
ALLAHHU AKBAR!! FEAR ALLAH!!!!
You are still not Amal, so why don't your be yourself and use you vugar language in your own name instead of cowardly hidding somebody else's name.
looooooooooooooooool hahah walahi Gobaad you made me laugh. I was disturbed with this impersonation hate threat to incite violence amongst the peaceful people of Somaliland but when i saw your reply i just couldn't stop laughing. It's me now walalo but obviously if you see any non sense you know it ain't me. SubhanAllah i don't understand why any one want such evil harm and civil war for us. They have reached such low level and desperation
I usually never write in capital but after i just turned my PC and before I read the article I saw all these crap in our name and I was very much disturbed that's why i wrote in capital. They think they can inflict harm on us foqool xaasid wixi xumaan inala jecel Allah ha ku celiyo it's sad really
Although it sounds like you, I have never seen you write in these screaming capital letters. That is why, I thought the same person is just changing sides.
lol I know. I never actually write in capitals but because I was shocked I ended up writing in screaming capitals kkkk
They think they can fool us but we all know that we Somalilanders are too civilized for their lowly behaviour
Correction: vulgar language, that is.
@Amal impersonator
Awal is too smart to write this rubbish. I bet this guy is an illiterate from Buqland.
SLPress
you are keep deleting my reply to Gee :(
Let me just make it short that ugly impersonator is not me and I say guul to Somaliland and peace and nabad iyo caano to all clans in somaliland
This beautiful self-expression of the people of Somaliland is evident to all. It would be elating if this public display was about Somali unity or about the welfare of all our people.
It would be really good if folks in southern Somalia could show a fraction of the passion, organization and sense of purpose of the folks of northern Somalia. Instead, every inch of southern Somalia that is liberated from Alshabaab is being contested by rival militia in each region while the hapless government of Sheikh Sharif is always in a reactive mode. Even when Alshabaab is pushed out of Mogadishou, the TFG armed forces fight among themselves in the streets of Mogadishu every day. And instead of taking part in the liberation of Somalia, Farole digs his fake oil wells. He gives lip service to Somali unity while cashing on the booming piracy in Qandala. It is sad state of affairs!
It is true; Somalia was run by Somalilanders since its inception. Civil servants such as teachers, bankers, heads of departments, education and most government bureaucracies, military and police were run by cadres from northern Somaliland from the establishment of Somali state. It was the Somaliland camel corps who put down the first uprising in Mogadishu in 1961. Where Somaliland goes, there goes Somalia. There is Somali proverb that says" you kill as snake by cutting its head off". Today, Somalia is a headless entity.
Final comment: It is also sad to see the nasty comments being made by Abyssinians impersonating Somalis that are inciting division and hatred among Somali people at the sub-clan level. It is the sign of the times. Let the teff eaters have a field day.
Good to see Allemagan is coming around. Good job, brother this is the first balanced comment you made so far. It is never too late to make good fence.
You are right it could be xabashi wallah they know all our clans and their issues. We are brothers and sisters, kin, blood tol iyo xidid regardless of borders and political differences etc. I wish one day Somaliland and Somalia could live in peace side by side assisting each other from every corner rather than forceful unity under greater Somalia agenda that failed and never materialized. The sooner people understand this and accept this the better for all
Correction: those impersonators are NOT habashis but some Somalis who are consumed with hate towards Somaliland :( but Allah sees their agenda.
You are correct in your statement that Somalia is headless. The people of Somaliland, east to west, were the backbone of Somalia; however, rather than being respected, given credit and their fair rights as equal citizens their contributions were instead looked at with hatred. Believe it or not, many of the injustices that have and continue to be dealt out to the people of Somaliland has deep roots in some form of inferiority complex.
For example, not 1 TFG president or prime minister has made a single phone call or visit to Somaliland over the past 20 years just to even say salam. How could this happen? Somaliland has had visitors from almost all the European countries and yet their own southern brothers ignore them out of spite and jealousy of their accomplishments. Furthermore, SL people have recently donated $700,000 despite being poor themselves and in return Sharif has hosted SSC and Awdal state dreamers from the diaspora.
What does it say when a fellow Muslim takes your charity and repays you by pushing your brothers to fight against you?……We gone Mogadishu don't miss you don't need you…kkkk
I respect your comments on this one, almost everything you said make good sense. You seem to be
educated and cultured enough with many circumstances within the Somalis lifestyles. It would be nice
and helpful to comment truthfully on all issues,past,present,future and so forth. If Somalia is headless
Snake entity, and under foreign Amisom and International Community occupation, sadly, it would be
difficult for unrecognized Somaliland to intervene for fears that it would also become another headless
Somaliland!. Just look at Djibouti who's fully engaged in the Somalia affairs and upto now is in spider house
with the Somalia crisis!. Yes, Somaliland can be of a greater help than Djibouti, if/when its political
ambitions are fully recognized by the IC, without which, Somaliland is not fit to be seen mingling with the
dangerous crisis of Somalia. Let's see how the upcoming Somalia London Conference 23 Feb 2012,
could address the Somalia issues and also Somaliland recognition aspect. which's a primary concern.
Cheers.
@HawiyeGeezer Kindly try to exercise caution and refrain from calling names. Be intellectual and argue out your point on facts not on hearsay. Oil exploration will take 3 months but putting up all infrastructural necessities requires time and therefore crude oil can not be pumped within such short period. I repeat again that before posting anything here carry out a research and stop peddling lies. I don't know who you are but i would like to remind you that chewing qat is a cross cutting syndrome not limited to a particular place and no one can point a finger on the other given that a significant portion of somalis chew regardless of clan. So pls mind your language and choose words wisely.
Its a good thing that people came out, but i wonder if they came out for peace or its simply propoganda for the Somaliland president, he wants to apear very tough strong' but in reality he has been in office for a while and Somaliland is splitting under his watch, may be its time we replace him to a civilian leader after all Silanyo was a rebel leader, we need a leader that other clans in Somaliland can trust and relate to, the problem in Sool is a political one and no military solution will solve it.
Cawil, don't give an ear to HawiyeGeezer and Puntgeezer are one using these names and other anmes interchangeably pretending to be Hawiye, Dhabahante, and Awdalites. But he is a trouble make from Puntland trying to ruffle some feathers with Somalilanders. Just give a thumb-down. That will annoy him alright!
It just shows how much they wish for our destruction. I don't bother with them anymore, let them hate and bark at us so long we remain firm, vigilant, focused and trust Allah they will never harm us. Shame to those who try to incite violence and divide Somaliland. Issaq, Gadabursi and dhulbahantes etc are brothers and God willing they will be the new Somali power and voice and run a civilized and peaceful country. Somaliland has so much enemies but haters will only make us stronger, focused and motivate us
peace walalo!
How do you know this childish trouble maker actually is from Puntland?
I know that he is a glue-sniffing, good for nothing from Xamar Jajab because I researched it. Perhaps, that is where he grew up, but he is Darood alright and from Puntland. How I do know? He told us so and at times he turns against other Darood tribes. One can also read between the lines about what he writes.
Its clear even Neo-faagaash like Allemagan who hide behind the union agenda, not that they believe it, is behind the cause after realizing the reality in his village. Since Xaglaatosiye abandoned their little Khaatuuf-mo Seegto tribal pipeline, they all running to Hargeisa to get their qaamadi like always.
HawiyeGeezer is dhulo orphanage child who thinks he will live another day if Isaaq and Hawiye clash because dooros have no chance if the Hawiyes remain in the South and the Isaaq just keep taking village after village…he is wishing today he was Hawiye so he can hide his little tail.
When Aideed was chasing them they all became Hawiye, he could be the son of Aideed from Utaango refugee camp…easy on him while I carry a DNA test. Warya HawiyeGeezer open your mouth…I can already see Afweyne beyond those lipstick wearing lips…Alla maxu isku wareeray…isku qasbayaa waxan islahen (things that aint comparable).
@Allemagan ? yusufdahir,
Which one are you, Allemagan or yusufdahir?
@mogadishu boy – are you mentally fit? I guess you need some treament and you better see a psychiatrist. Effects of civil war is clearly evident in your case. You have never known peace & tranquility throughout you lifetime, what you know is killing innocent souls,raping women and looting. Blood thirsty and trigger happy guy, you better know that we Somalilanders will not disintergrate or be destroyed. We have solid institutions to iron out grievances and NOT by barrel of a gun as you do. We are civilized citizens who respect rule of law. We (SL) do not wish others bad since we are Muslims. We wish every Muslim prosperity and not doom. We are the guys who just rescued you from starvation by donating food aid and hard cash to your drought stricken people and most probably you might have had a bit of our donation. In a nutshell we Somalilander are above petty politics, we are development minded individuals rebuilding their nation. I know there are haters like you out there but let me assure you that nothing will stop us. Whatever hatred you harbour will eventually haunt you. Hatred is cancerous & as you know cancer is not curable. In the long run "mogadishu boy" will succum and perish coz of cancerous dse called hatred. May ALLAH lead Somaliland to the right path.Amiin.
MogadishuBoy is not from Mogadishu and he also uses HawiyeGeezer because he feels insecure about who he really is. A simple horse riding dhulo oodaay who lost his father to USC….he was temporarily adopted by Farah Aideed, so he kind of took it to the heart. As much as Hawiyes believe in greater Somalia, their version of greater Somalia is genuine its just that they dont know how to run a nation, they do not like Dooros and they will never side with Dooros against the Isaaq because one reason Hawiye need isaaq in Somalia is because they know if Somalia becomes Dooros and them only they will eat each others like Hutu and Tutsi so Hawiye need a third major clan to balance the power.
The Dooros feel threatened by Somaliland because if they take Dhulos and Warsangeli, they will become minority in Somaliland and Somalia just as they are in Kenya and Ethiopia. But this is their destiny. So Somaliland is nightmare for them.
Somalilanders and Hawiye need to make a deal in the end that Somaliland respects majority Hawiye south, Mogadishu should respect Majority Isaaq north and forget the herds in the middle for both nations. We just need to find a confident Hawiye that feels he can rule the south alone with Isaaq backing…Sheikh Sharif is not idealist, he has no clue about politics, he sold his faith for money and all that matters for him is $$. If claiming Somaliland means more $$ for him he is in.
Hawiyes celebrate every time Somaliland chases a dooro from his village. Thats the honest truth. Hawiyes are all over Somaliland living freely as they wish, investing, socializing, etc…they contribute to the army even, I don't need to reveal it.
Isaaq and Hawiye agenda is common when it comes to Dooros but the disagreement is Somaliland vs greater Somalia but still its never about war.
Its evident in this forum and the thousands out there, Isaaqs and Hawiye hardly badmouth each others. They just don't like Dooro cry babies, go cry to Hawiye while wearing that blue flag as a diaper.
Great article I must say..Very straight fowward and honest.. I really supported Muse Bixi's comments towards the stability of Somaliland..However, I hope our current leaders can also highly focus on the existance of Puntland and their crook leaders..Primarily, I want to sway focus on the drilling in Puntland that can be a possible threat to Somaliland's security..Living in an era were Oil is an important resource, illegally drilling in Puntland is highly a problem..If other nations invest into drilling in Puntland, than we can see a changement of politics in Somalia..More arms smuggeling within Sool and Puntland forces will continue to generate..We need to not allow the drilling of oil to take place in Puntland with the possibility of funding terrorism…Puntland can produce alot of wealth from this and create a black market of weapon smuggling through piracy..Somaliland has grown into a large force that should be able to regulate its regions and take its neighbours affairs into consideration…Either Somalia or Somaliland, should take decisive actions on this false leader Farole and his crooks on their wrongful deeds…NO MORE DRILLING IN PUNTLAND!
Don't believe that Puntland has OIL in M;tenia so called Puntland, The A defacto district from Somalia Mudug
whose Capital city is Galkacyo! There's no oil in M'Jenia District of Somalia. They want to steal the Somaliland
oil which will not work for them. This Drilling sites are integral parts of Somaliland. Faroole has no business
in Sanaag OIl of Somaliland, and his A defacto Puntland should report to the Somalia TFG for orders.
Cheers.
Leave Puntland alone ! If you want to make your own state go ahead, but leave us alone ! Stop killing out people !
Somalia must be one and not two simple and if there's someone out there trying to succeed from the union where will be their borders ? Dulbahante gadubiirsi and warsangali don't want to be included in this succession becouse only isaaq can't decide the future of all northerners ,so i would suggest the isaaqs to end their unrealistic search of somaliland.
After Khaatumo was installed it's clear The whole notion of somaliland became dead and burried
ViVa SoomaaliWeyn
Hargeisawi-in-London, I think that Yusufdahir is plagiarizing Allemagan's comments. There are lots of impersonatering lately using other people names.
Correction: Impersonaters, that is. Iam lazy to use the spell check.
YUP YUP….I guess the losers have given up on honest discourse and now determined to simply ruin the entire comment section. From Amal, Gobad, Mohamed cheers, Allemagan etc. Whoever is doing this is just trying to ruin any and all discussions.
My guess is it's Puntlandgeezer, who is known for is split personal. He is one sick puppy:)
@Gobaad
(I hope) you're happy now because Silanyo is on his way to London.
Good to know Hargeisawi-In-London, it is good to be on the stage and have a platform rather than to be absent and not existing. If we don't speak for ourselves, some body else will speak for us. And that is not good.
SOMALILANDPRESS: Is there a posibility that we create a software that smells the blood through finger tips, and able to differentiate between Somalilanders and those who hate us?
My question could be the strange, but I see no other resolve, because those Wanlaweyns took over our Webpage.
I suggest that we may create a "Gate-keeper" similar to the one that Somaliland Forum uses to keep out trouble makers out of the flow of discussions. Somalilandpress should consider this plan.
Somaliland is the greatest asset to PEACE ………… when Sovereignty for the Republic of Somaliland is PROPOSED by UK at UN
The Africa Union Council has received the Report of The AU Fact-Finding Mission of 2005 which recommonded Sovereignty for The Republic of Somaliland at once
AU Council is delaying action for corrupt and illegal reasons
Toby Kenyon
While the forum is open to all for discussion, if people are not willing to use the opportunity to express their God given right in a civil manner, there is no real need for them to waste their time by simply being rude or impersonating each others rather than exchange views. Thus we are strongly opposed to people who are just impersonating others just for whatever reason thus we reserve the right to delete their comment(s) or even block them from the forum/discussion board.
We encourage people to have civil debates that's why the system is there but there is no point really if your just going to waste your time impersonating others, thus your IP will be blocked for good.
We discourage this sort of behavour.
Thank You.
SP
i bet all those demonstrators are paid by sillyaanyo. and it just shows how Somaliland is weak and threatend they feel, what a fearfull act ? Khaatumo now next is Awdal state. bye bye Narnia land.
habarjeclo, if you have such devil and horrible thought please do not use this name. dhulbahante and habar jeclo are so connected by blood . and somalilanders are not enemy to dulbahante as aclan they are againt anybody who hates somaliland
viva somaliland i love u so much am tanzania born somalilander
realy there big differece a somali from south and a somalilander these people actualy there giving us hard time here inn tanzania to be called in names like we dont have country some call us al shababa some call us people from hunger country
these is because many people dont knw somaliland one day somaliland will be recognise
viva soamaliland somaliland hannolato
East African Countries should have a coomon cause to live in peace and prosperity. Tanzania in the
right minds should be no exception.
Cheers.
Hey watch out,,Darood is a big Word. Do you mean the Anti-Somaliland dissidents. That's the Primary
concern.
Cheers.
@nabiel, what a shame every belongs to a tribe,>whether are sijui or najuwa or mlendo all have clans. They will defend their clans. Unfortunately where ever the other Somali came to a country they will find Somalilnaders living there and helped them to settle. But know you have stabbed them on their back. You brought corruption which never existed in Somali families in East Africa. And who gives corruption the angel curse them. Walanweyn they do not differentiate Halal or Haram. Even their muslim scholars are not telling them piracy, corruption is against the teaching of Islam. What they know is money. Garowe and Boassaso is flourishing because of piracy money, While in Somaliland people build the country with their own money, either from relatives in diaspora.
About the oil, Puntland do not have oil;, unless that is piracy stilliong it from Somaliland or area near somali border. Drilling down and then move parallel to reach the oil reserve in Somaliland. What a shame
Horta anigu waxa aan rabaa in aan dadkan la yidhaahdo somaliweyn doonka wax u sheego. Horta maan ku dhalan mana weligay ku fikirin in aan ahay muwaadin soomaliyeed bal keliya in aan ahayn muwaadin SOMALILANDER ah. 20 sano ka hor ayaan dhashay ka bacdi burburkii laxaadka lahaa ee loo gaystay wadankan somaliland. waa suaal ku socota somaliweyn doonka sida maamulada mala awaalka ah ee awdal state iyo khaatumee, Ma iga dhaadhicinaysaa in aan somalia oo aanan weligay waxba ka aqoon in aat tidhaahdid waad u dhalatay? Somaliland keliya ayaa jiraysa joogaysaa weligeed.
I have never been a citizen of greator so-called somalia and i will never be in the centuries to come. I believe in somaliland iyo dadka walaaha ah dhulbahante, samaroon, isaaq iyo dhamaan inta ku nool somaliland way is wada saamaxeen 1991. Laakin waa iga mide Samaroon damiir miyaanay lahayn iyagoo somaliland xukumayay 8 sanadood ayay maanta markuu madaxwaynihii hore sharafta lahaa ee somaliland uu xilkii ka tagay ayay maamul khiyaaliya la soobaxayaan awdal state?
haday logic u fikirayn beelaha darafyadu ma qax bay, dhiig, burbur, mise wax barasho nabad biyo himilo ayay rabaan? dont make your people flee dont choose blood to be shed. if you choose, then i will switch my logical thinking and throw my educational way of thinking and become ignorant and take qabiil as number one dookh. i am going to believe the suppermacy of ISAAQ people and i am going to masscare anyone who stands my way. begger has no choice we know who go the upper hand the ellites of somaliland won't tolerate such maamul mala awaal. wa bilaahi towfiiq walaalayaal.
amal impersonator,
get a life dumbgeezer and at least use your name instead of your cowardly low behaviour and impersonating others. I think you and your ilk are much traumatised with Somaliland's increase level of awareness in the world
How can one Bash some of somaliland clans and at the same time propose unity in order to become independent state fulfillingly, it just doesnt go together
I strongly suggest you guys refrain clan bashing and instead promote peace and unity.
This goes to both pro somaliland and somalia
In this forum, some called me a Neo-fagash whatever that means to silence me from stating my opinions. I don’t know how one hides behind a “unionist agenda” and whether it is a bad thing to advocate for the unity of our people. There are others who complain about how southern Somalia always dealt unjustly with Somaliland and how people of Somaliland were denied fair treatment as equal citizens in their own country.
Gobad, in one of my earlier comments I only gave credit where credit lies. In that comment I stated that “Somalia was run by Somalilanders since its inception. Civil servants such as teachers, bankers, heads of departments, education and most government bureaucracies, military and police were run by cadres from northern Somaliland starting from the establishment of Somali state. It was the Somaliland camel corps who put down the first uprising in Mogadishu in 1961. Where Somaliland goes, there goes Somalia. There is Somali proverb that says" you kill a snake by cutting its head off". Today, Somalia is a headless entity”.
I stated the above facts based on the reality of Somalia at the time of independence. Soon after the independency of our country, education and government administration moved from Italian system to an English system. That meant people from northern Somalia had the necessary qualification and education to hold many prominent position in all over Somalia. This trend continued even after the ruthless Somali dictator Mohamed Siad Barre came to power. One could even argue that Siad Barre wrote the Somali script to take away that power and advantage from the hands of the people of northern Somalia.
However, I think it is disingenuous to claim that all the people in southern Somalia harbour pathological hate toward the people of Somaliland. It also does not serve any purpose to claim some sort of superiority of one region over another. It simply does not serve any good goal or purpose to sow seeds of divisions and animosity among Somali people on the basis of tribalism. And last but not least, it is not “flip-flop” to state facts and be fair minded about your convictions and dislikes. If you read all my comments I try to be objective, refrain from clan politics and I do not honour personal attacks and name-calling with an answer. I always stand for the unity of our people and don’t want to lose hope that one day soon it will be realized. As Amal always says I only wish “milk and peace” to every Somali.
You are right Allemagan, not many admits that Somalia is a headless entity without Somaliland. You are also right that "… Soon after the independency of our country, education and government administration moved from Italian system to an English system. That meant people from northern Somalia had the necessary qualification and education to hold many prominent position in all over Somalia. This trend continued even after the ruthless Somali dictator Mohamed Siad Barre came to power. One could even argue that Siad Barre wrote the Somali script to take away that power and advantage from the hands of the people of northern Somalia …" Not only one can argue that Somali script was to take away the power and from the hands of Somalilanders, but it was a well-known fact and thanks for bringing that up.
to be continued
Somalilandpress, please put back the second part of my comments to Allemagan. There is nothing I said that he didn't say. My is incomplete without the second part.
guys this is not the place to have this male moments and fight just support and be greatfull for this unity