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Israel says ready to recognize Somaliland
February 11, 2010 · 164 Comments
HARGEISA (Somalilandpress) — The government of Israel is ready to restore the de jure recognition it has offered to Somaliland in 1960 as it eyes the Red Sea and the Horn, an Israeli spokesman says.
According to a local source, Golisnews, Mr. Yigal Palmor, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman is quoted on the Israeli newspaper of Haaretz Daily saying his government was ready to recognize Somaliland again. He cited Israel was the first state to recognize Somaliland in 1960 when it received its independence from Great Britain.
However, Mr. Palmor admitted Somaliland government has not contacted the Israeli government to seek ties.
When asked a question regarding Somalia, Mr. Palmor answered: “Somalia looks like the Afghanistan of the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden, historically speaking we know the Somali people have different believes and politics. The Somali people have different political values of which they unified in 1960 that led to the whole misunderstanding and ultimately the collapse of Somalia,” he told Haaretz Daily.
While answering to a question regarding Somaliland-Israel ties, he said: “Israel was the first nation to recognize Somaliland and indeed was the first country the State of Israel has recognized, after it received it’s Independence from Great Britain. When it unified with Southern Somalia, again we were the first to recognize it. We always wanted a relationship with a Muslim country in East Africa and which we can share the Red sea with.”
Mr. Palmor said his country was ready to restore Somaliland’s old status however currently the two states have no bilateral ties.
He added Israel has ties with number of East African countries including Tanzania, Uganda and even Djibouti.
Many analysts believe Israel has growing national interest in the Red Sea region, a key shipping route. According to well-informed regional sources Israel believes the region is also a key route for arms from Iran for Hezbollah, Sudanese regime and number of other groups in Palestine. The Red Sea gives Israeli ships access to the Arabia Sea and are within cruise-missile range of Iran. Israel also concern about Arab nations such as Egypt blocking it’s commercial shipping lines.
There are unconfirmed reports also suggesting Israel wants to deploy submarines in the Somaliland port of Berbera and possibly establish a military outpost. Many Arab states have in the past expressed concerns about the proposed Israeli-base in the Horn of Africa seeing it as Israel surrounding them.
The region is well known for it’s strategic importance and it was days ago when an Al Qaeda spokesman, Said al-Shihri, said “taking control of Bab El-Mandeb, will constitute an escalating victory: the Jews will be crushed in a vise, because it is through the Strait that the United States brings its support to Israel.” Bab El-Mandeb, which means “tears of gates” in Arabic is a 20-mile long inlet located in the narrowest point of the Red Sea, between the shores of the Horn of Africa and Yemen.
It is no secret to Somaliland though, the former president, Mr Ibrahim Haji Egal addressed the very issue in a letter to the former Israeli head of state, Mr Yitshak Rabin in 1995. Fifteen years ago, Mr Egal saw the threat of Islamic fundamentalism and the importance of Bab El-Mandeb.
Mr Egal, who became prime minister of Somaliland at the age of only 30, wrote: “Today, however, although the West had won the cold war and the threat of communism appears to be vanishing in many parts of the world, we, in the Horn of Africa, are being threatened by a more sinister and pernicious enemy in the form of encroaching Islamic influence.”
Mr Egal continues, “my government firmly believes that owing to this region’s strategic geopolitical importance as a result of its propinquity to the oil routes and the narrow Bab El-Mandeb entrance, as well as its proximity to the Gulf, the Middle East and the access to the Indian Ocean.”
Egal, who was a champion politician, died May 3rd 2002 in the South African capital Pretoria. He was succeeded by the current leader, Mr. Dahir Rayale, who is said to have avoided approaching Israel in order not to harm Somaliland’s current fragile relations with the Arabs and Muslim world, which it heavily relies on for it’s only surviving economic engines – livestock.
However many of the youths in Somaliland believe ties with Israel is better for Somaliland’s economic environment because of it’s economical and technological achievements. Many argue livestock is not sustainable economy because of health issues, climate change and urbanisation and prefer developing economy based on service and high-tech sector, similar to that one of Israel and Taiwan.
Somaliland, like Israel, finds itself politically isolated, in the middle of a hostile region and at a thorny crossroads and if anyone is to reach out to the unrecognized republic, it would be Israel. It too knows how it feels to be denied it’s statehood and self-determination. While Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, Somaliland is the only Muslim democracy in the region.
Somaliland has it’s own hybrid system of governance under a constitution was former British protectorate which gained independence 26th June 1960 and was recognized by 34 countries including Israel and the United States. It later joined South Somalia in a union that was never rectified which lasted until 1991.
Somalilandpress, 11 February 2010
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I read the comments with amazement while some of you are still thinking about the Arabs we have our country to think about, I agree with Kayse and J.A and I believe we are Arabs when it suits the Arabs and other times we are completely forgotten. You talk about the Somaliland Youth well majority of this youth you are mentioning lost their loved ones and there was no Arab nation to help while we are being oppressed and killed. In fact most of the arms trade Siad Barre Regime used was financed by them.. think again when commenting and get your priorities right people. We welcome recognition other governments will hopefully follow.
Anybody who favoures of Israel-somaliland ties …Please read SUURAL AL MA'IDA verse 51 (aaya 51) and see what allah say about this relationship. I will die for allah and then my country (somaliland).
Long life to those Love allah not an Israel.
Somalilanders are very proud people, and they would not compensate for their pride. Their pride, first and foremost, lies with their identity, which is Islam. We have gotten rid of former president Siad Bare because he acted cruelly towards his people and vialoted the very fundamental values that Islam promotes; patience, care, respect, protection and thus (the big one) peace. These are the values we hold higher than anything. My point here is that having ties with Israel can jeopardise that, since Israel sees all Arabs and most Muslim countries as its first and only enemies. We may have elements of misunderstanding with some of our neighbour countries, but we will not invite an outrage with them. Israel's intention of relations with Somaliland is to gain ways to intimidate those countries that lay close range with Somaliland. So, what interest has it got in for Somaliland to have friends in far away lands by creating enemies in closer lands? If the desicion-makers of Somaliland contemplate on having friendly ties with Israel, they should consider the risks as such desicion would be a reminiscent of the ones former president Bare has made.
Is it true that Israel says it is ready to recognize Somaliland? Let's verify first. If it is true then we need to move to the next step: Israel declares publicly that it recognizes Somaliland as sovereign nation; and similarly Somaliland declares that it recognizes that Israel is a sovereign nation and it has right to exist. Wait a minute, what is the benefit for Israel to recognize Somaliland? We have to know what is for Israel to recognize Somaliland. Unless they tell us they are doing it only for sake of Allah! On the other hand, what is for Somaliland to be recognized by Israel? What Somaliland will gain from recognition by Israel? What Somaliland will lose by the recognition of Israel? Somalilanders are intelligent people and can easily analyze and understand the benefits and harm of associating with Israel. If the benefits outweigh the harm then the relation makes sense. Otherwise it does not make sense.
But I have problem with Israelis believes: First, they believe that they are the “chosen people” and the rest of human race is “gentile”.
Continue……
Then, I just would like to imagine what would be the relation between the “Chosen people” and the “Gentile”. All that I could think of is “Master – slave” relation. So, we need assurance from Israel that we will not have such relations with them. Second, look how they treated Palestinians of Gaza – that really scares me, that was inhumane. Third, look how they treated the ambassador of turkey – can you imagine Somaliland ambassador treated similarly. Forth, look how they are treating president Mahmud Abbas, he is willing to kiss their —- just save his people. But that is not enough for them unless he brings all Palestinians with to kiss their — too.
Leaders they're the ones who seize the moment, who're really have a good asssesment on their Country, regardles of the Authencity of this Statement we have to benefit by the chance and the golden Opportunity because I don't know wuts the wrong with having ties with a state like Israel. as we're intelligent people we also need to be wise on taking that right decision for our own interest. and for those who bring the Religion and the Arabs I tell them u don't represent us and we're not an Arab State to decide for us, and that goes for the guy who studies Economy who labelled us as "DISGRACE Diaspora" because what he can't understand and will never is that Today's world is been ruled utterly by the Interest, therefore I'm for that Initiative.
Long LIfe Somaliland
The following is my response to Da Lander. Somalilandpress keeps deleting it, and I am wondering what their intention on doing so is? I does not recite violence or contain derogatory language. —————-
Yes, my name is Salma; an Arabic name, but also an Islamic one. What is yours? You are entitled to your own opinions and what an opinion you got on everything including people's names. For your information, I am a proud Muslim/Somalilander. When I speak for for both, I try my best to be truthful, and not to suck up to others. I suggest you try the same, if you are a Somalilander at least. I love all my Muslim brothers and sisters (by the way to do so is not an Arab ideology, but a firm recommendation from our prophet S.A.W). Don't get angry when you see others seeking facts. Something you should be doing, too. And like you said, "God will judge everyone". Should you be working for a better judgement from your creator? Please, one more thing, don't analiys others manes when yours doesn't make sense in any culture or religion.
oh,oh, thank you israeli Government,you were the first to recognise somaliland in 1960, and now we are welcoming you, why we are saying muslims, they refused us and they are suppressing as, but now the time has come and we can see the breeze of the recognition. look at Egeypt, Jordan and Morocco they Arab countries as well as muslims and now they have good ties with israel why arabs are saying somaliland cannot do so and so, Iam saying we can do.
thank you again israel and come and settle the strategic port of Berbera.
Well i think its time for us to stop thinking about not making relations with Israel consider about being Muslim and fearing of losing other Muslim countries while you don't have any Muslim country which considers your issue. so we should stop caring about these so called Muslims issues with Israel, because if they are real Muslims they will behave you well when you are in their countries, they think that they are better than you,,,,,and i believe that they are not even Human, because there is one basic thing to be human and its to behave like a human, and they don't behave like a human they think that they are better than you…..So, why would you be with them in their war, when they don't care about you, when they don't want you……. So, as long as i can get a diplomatic relations from any country whether its Jewish or Cristian i will welcome them with open hands…..You know Prophet Mohamed made agreements with the Jews in Medina that shows you that being Muslim doesn't mean don't have ties with the Jews or the Christians, so i hope you will think out of this box..its time for you to wake up, and go to get what you deserve.
Anybody who favoures of Israel-somaliland ties …Please read SUURAL AL MA'IDA verse 51 (aaya 51) and see what allah say about this relationship. I will die for allah and then my country (somaliland).
Long life to those Love allah not an Israel.
As long as there is no credible source for where this information came from this is just a whisp of smoke with no substance, it really compromises the journalistic quality of the site when fake news is invented, shame on you. It quotes Heertez but the website has no mention of it this or in fact anything to do with Somaliland. Surely this cant be made up news..or can it? As a freelance journalist that was considering working with the makers of this site i feel betrayed and ashamed. Plagiarism, Phony stories, and out right dilusional writing is of no use to me or the people that use this site and believe what is written here. I am waiting to be proven wrong people and i do so hope that i will be, for the sake of your site.
The news is a window into places and events that are far and unreachable to us; when that window is tainted or broken then our views are also tainted and broken and then it leaves us suseptable to any intruder that might want to take advantage of this misfortune.
Listen people; NEVER believe something without verifying it, they can feed you whatever they want but in the end its you that decides whether to eat it or not. so THINK, BE SMART, DONT BE A SHEEP FALLING OF A CLIFF
-MOHAMED AHMAD ALI WARSAME
PEACE AND LOVE
Anybody who favoures of Israel-somaliland ties …Please read SUURAL AL MA'IDA verse 51 (aaya 51) and see what allah say about this relationship. I will die for allah and then my country (somaliland).
Long life to those Love allah not an Israel.
isreal is very busy building greater Israel, this is the reality on the ground, but they are very quick to divide you Somalis, WHY? they travel all over the world to fine other Zionists to build a greater Israel, and some of you Somalis braising them? its called divide and conquer
Somaliland is belong to somalilanders, no one or earth can dictate or tell us whom we be friend with or not,,,,,,,,,,,
Those from Somalia need to know that we hate them more than any other thing in the world, but we don’t want to harm them us they did and want to do, simple because we are peaceful ppl. Somaliland policies and territory belong to Somalilanders only, and those who can’t see that can go to hell. The true Somalilander will put the interest of his country above other issues, and those who can’t are in the wrong track. Some of the ppl who are commenting about this issue are twisted minders who are not representing Somaliland ppl or its interest. Yes I’m Muslim but there is nothing in my religion that says don’t be a friend with Jew ppl please stop being raciest, I’m not supporter for the Jewish actions and honestly I don’t care, and for those who are claiming to be the defenders of (——), I honestly I can’t see what you are so pissed-off, could be that your (country) is getting independent? How nationalist you are!!!!
Just read and recall the past, you will learn a lot from it, that those alleged brothers of faith were the ones who where supporting the dictator regime and funding his atrocities against the ppl of Somaliland, and later on imposed sanctions on the poor ppl of Somaliland. the mass graves stands as memorial fact to my words, so please stop being hypocrites and know that we will but our country interest first… not this and that country. Do you know way the Saudis lifted the embargo, not because that they care about us or Islam, but because they put their interest first. And my message to those Somalis living in the Diaspora is, incase you don’t know your alleged arabs (brothers) behavior when your ppl go to them seeking asylum in to their country, and instead of helping them they are using their weakness and attacking on your women’s, and turning them to prostitutes in their markets… there is a long list of attacks, and there isn’t, that much time to mention it, but know that none of your alleged (brothers) cars or know that you exist…
http://somalilandpress.com/11607/desperate-somali…
Any country whether Israel or not, that volunteered to recognize Somaliland first will be welcomed with open hands. Mind you it;s the Somaliland people's wish to be recognized as an independent Country and any country to recogize this whether for their own selfish reasons or not, the Somaliland people will accept with open hands. All these people who are making noises against this idea is nothing but the enemies of Somaliland who are panicing because the international communities are welcoming Somaliland into it;s fold. Long Live Somaliand and it;s people.
What is the big fuzz don't you heard that all Arabs are now bound to sit with State of Israel? [refer the ongoing Doha Forum] This action could help the issue of Palestine. If you always say I don't want to sit with my enemy, you will never get anywhere. Sit with them and see how things develop. Israelis are human like any other, and when they see they can survive the piece of land they hold on to [half of palestine proper], they do not have any reason to be the enemy of Muslims. All the people include Palestinians themselves are now ready to accept pre-1967 border. Somaliland needs to be a member of the international communities and that is our goal. Anything else is trivial to me.
Israel’s possible recognition of Somaliland has recently been a popular topic of discussion among Somali news websites. The idea seems farfetched, if not wishful thinking, for in reality the possibility of Israel recognising Somaliland is only marginal.
Nevertheless, assuming these claims are correct, bilateral ties with Israel could have some serious implications on Somaliland’s quest for nationhood.
This is undoubtedly a great prospect for the recognition Somaliland has been waiting for, for decades. If it handles it correctly with due diligence, this could be the master key to unlocking many new opportunities with either the Western/Israel or Arab nations. Recognition from Israel could encourage other nations to recognise Somaliland. This partly depends on how well Somaliland articulates its case.
Ties with Israel could have some serious implications for its ties with Arab nations on which Somaliland depends for much of its trade. However, Israel could prove a strong partner with regard to being a possible export market and exploitation of Somaliland’s resources.
Israel's recognition of Somaliland would not come without strings attached as the previous Somaliland press article touched on. One benefit to Israel is the strategic position of Somaliland opposite the Arabian Peninsula, at the door of the Bab-el-Mandeb Strait. A military base there would enhance Israel’s military capabilities and give them the upper hand if conflict were to occur in the Middle East. However, Djibouti is a more realistic alternative for the military base. It has often displayed its sheer desperation for foreign investment in trying to earn some foreign currency. It currently hosts a number of foreign military missions and is far more pliable, secure and accessible.
Another reason is Somaliland’s unexploited resources which will be accessible to Israel probably within an agreement giving them preferential if not near exploitative conditions. The truth is that Somaliland has very few friends, Israel wants to exploit a poorly governed, poorly informed and poorly defended enclave in which it realises potential to fulfil its own aims and ambitions.
The Arab nations may feel they have greater leverage over Somaliland as exports, foreign exchange and tax earnings consist of mainly livestock exported to these Arab Nations. A renewed livestock ban would be a real possible pressuring technique employable by the Arab nations to prevent it from establishing a relationship dangerous to them. Also any recognition of Somaliland by Arab nations will be due to their own interests rather than anything else. Therefore Somaliland needs to understand the strategic interests of foreign nations it is trying to lobby for recognition and take a cost benefit analysis when redefining bilateral relationships. When they realise this and learn to master the art of politics (deception?) (formerly only a forte of the Darood) is when they will succeed to achieve their aims.
A very important aspect in the case of Somaliland should be the case of Somalia itself. Somaliland currently is a government, a people and a power in limbo, imprisoned by those fearing what good it might achieve/do. Somaliland is trapped along the sidelines, unable to partake in activities so vital to its existence. This is the last hurdle of the revolution.
Somaliland and Somalia are perpetually linked and the people, government and conscience of Somaliland owe it to the suffering children, women and elderly in Somalia to establish peace. Somaliland can do more for Somalia as a sovereign country in the political arena (than as a spectator) to balance the negative influence of Ethiopia.
It is unquestionable that foreign forces, of which most notably Ethiopia, led to the downfall of Somalia. And my instincts tell me now that the seeds bearing the anarchy and chaos prevailing now, were planted by those same foreign forces. Somalia or the rebellion didn’t need a downfall, just a change of government, they fell fool to their enemies. This once proud nation has been fragmented and divided.
Somali regions have no benefit in each other’s failure, and the only realistic conflict visible to the naked eye is potential conflict over resources in Sool & Sanaag. Somali regions should not try to control/rule each other as history has taught us that that is doomed for failure. Walk not in front of me, walk not behind me, but walk beside me as best you can, for together we can achieve so much more.
Any future government that is going to succeed will be a decentralised, coalition of parties from different parts of Somalia who co-operate to achieve their wider political and economical aims in the environment of the greater political arena. The foundation stones were laid in Somaliland, Puntland and peace was moving downwards to Galmudug and lower Somalia when those same outside forces acted to defend that which was in their interests (war & anarchy).
Somaliland should not be seen as deserting its Somali identity and conforming to western/Ethiopian the pressure but rather be a cornerstone to a new era in Somali identity. One not associated with death, destruction and anarchy but where peace, prosperity and development flourish.
Nevertheless, Somaliland should actively seek ties with Israel. Recognition will be conditional on certain agreements (as described in the article and above) designed to enhance Israel and achieve its wider strategic and political aims and ambitions (particularly in the Middle East).
If and when Israel is content with recognising Somaliland, the Somaliland government should use this to lobby the (more numerous) Arab nations for recognition. If not recognition, Somaliland could usher greater support and perhaps even investment from Arab countries. Considering the historic conflict between Arab countries and Israel, the Arab nations would a risk to their national security. This may spearhead the nations standing in the way of Somaliland recognition to reconsider their view and see the other side of the coin or support Somaliland more. Maybe it’s time to stop the sweet talk and play hardball.
Even between Somaliland and Puntland Ethiopia has created conflicts. It is a normality that politicians from both entities travel to Addis Ababa for ‘meetings’. This reminds me of the UK Channel 4 documentary entitled the ‘Israeli lobby’ depicting how UK politicians were flown to Tell Aviv for similar ‘meetings’ after which they were more favourable to Israeli interests. Such meetings often, overtly or covertly, aim to achieve the goals of one party as there is always unequal power in a relationship between two parties.
Somaliland’s de facto independence has been hard-won and should be nonnegotiable in such a volatile region. Somaliland furthermore needs to be careful in its international dealing and should foresee the pressures of being internationally recognised. On the fine road to peace all Somali entities need to co-operate and establish strategic partnerships. Somaliland is one of the few peaceful Somali regions and should be an example for others to follow. The intense disapproval of many Somalis towards Somaliland is unfounded; Somaliland should not be regarded as an opponent but given a chance to prove herself.
Ahmed, why are you copying the "Somaliland Recognition and Somali Unity" topic as you own, are you the author? I read it. There is no author identified.
dont forget history the european killed 1/3 of somaliland population for 100 years ago.
[5:51] O you who believe, do not take certain Jews and Christians as allies; these are allies of one another. Those among you who ally themselves with these belong with them. GOD does not guide the transgressors.
The somaliland people will not fall the european dajjal again insha allah. may allah protect us. we dont like them. i live in europe and they hate us muslim no job no hijab. we only have allah to protect us.
Israel says it is ready to recognize Somaliland!!!— After Dubai incident, it is like – Binladen saying he is ready to recognize Somaliland; or the Italian Mafia saying it is ready to recognize Somaliland; or the Somalia pirates saying they are ready to recognize Somaliland. How do you like it? What kind of image we will have in front of the world?
While I strongly welcome any country willing to recognize Somaliland, however it is the Somaliland interest and image that I care the most, and accordingly any strategic decision should not be made without taking them into account.
muhammed. This is just politics were not actually befriending them.
Most of these negative comments are from somalis pretending to be somalilanders.
I'm a true somalilander (ishaq) and i welcome anybody to recognise my country and do business with us.
Can anybody give me a logical answer to why Israel chooses to recognise now?!
When Iran is apparently producing 'Nuclear bombs' which is probably propaganda. They will not I repeat they will not give SL enough funding or material due to the infrastructure of Somaliland which is poor. They will only give Somaliland's Govt enough to get on which will then lead to them using the port for their evil military. Basically a military adventure on the most strategic area on earth.
Not that i am arguing against Somaliland recognition, but what exactly will Somaliland gain from recognition ? For those of you who are not aware (remind yourselfes) just do some research on the policies of the World Health organisation, World Bank, IMF, UN and how 3rd world countries are virtually excluded from trade, they must buy not sell. Aid leads to corruption and sell-out politicians looking after foreign interests', Structural adjustment programs which reduce public spending and development, this list is very long and inexhaustive… We, especially the diaspora should develop our economy while it is still protected by international isolation. For now we need business… recognition can come later.
Taiwan has succeeded in terms of affluence and living conditions but is unrecognised by most countries.
I would rather DIE than have ANY relation with Israel.
It's a embarrassment as a Muslim to do this.
IT'S TWISTED
arab don't want to recognize somaliland but isreal is ready to recognize it. then israel should be supported its logic and pragmatic. i believe. thank you.
forget the stuped arabs if they had any love or brotherhood for somalia, we been in war 20yrs killing our own people, were was the arabs that thing we close to them and for somaliland case they only care about what is good for them also they my see the light and stop keeping somaliland isolated when they think about the fact israel is at bombing range from them at berbara port.
we need friends arabs are not friends, i just hope the somaliland gov are smart enought to take this chance also get good deal from israel.
alot of jews in here lol posting comments pretending to be somalilanders
It is often argued that Somalilanders will do anything for recognition, from deporting fellow Somalis to their death bed in the Ogaden, whoring their women to "interested" foreigners, to putting some white loser on their money rather than an actual Somali just to suck up (in vain) to the British. I therefore cannot say that I'm surprised that the descendants of the very traitors who stabbed Muhammad Abdullah Hassan in the back and attempted to derail his anti-colonial struggles should now stoop to consorting with the Zionists, the people who have done more than anything to sully the good name of Islam. Somaliland, you have shown your true colors and are not truly worthy of the Somali name. It's 'Landers' from now on.
Mahadi…. the so called mad mullah stabbed us in the back, it was Habryounis that fought with him the most, then he started robbing and killing everyone, even the dhulbahantes.
He stabbed us in the back so we chased his backside out of our country! and the dhulbahnates chased him out too.
And BTW most of darawiish were isaqs ( habryounis) from Burao and Erigavo
So you darood need to stop claiming a war which mostly isaqs fought!
And BTW we isaq are not somali, to be somali you have to kill your own people, rape your women,rob boats and then run away to other peoples countries as refugees and get abused!
Exactly, 'changes'. You are not worthy of the Somali name. I'm glad you too realize that. That you should equate your own blood (presumably) with the same ugly stereotypes the Western media have been relentlessly promulgating is proof alone of that (I see the irony and tragedy of deporting fellow Somalis to their death is completely lost on you). By the way, I suggest you stop mentioning the Dhulbahante. They have nothing to do with your disgraceful little secessionist ambitions (as, incidentally, didn't Abdirahman Ahmed Ali Tuur, your own region's first president), and neither do any other non-Isaaq/SNM clans. 'S-land' is what it has always been: one historically low key Dir sub-clan's shameless, selfish, and ultimately very transparent bid to be first among equals — even if that means claiming foreign origins. Thanks for proving me right.
i would like the Isralean Government to recognise Somaliland because of political reasons. The so called "arab nations" are not there for their muslim brothers so why not ask the isralean government to recognise us.Each country has its own interest so if our interest is for the isralean or the iranians to come as long as its in our best interest we should not care who they are.We can see the world is changing and every nation wants a democratic state. Mogadisho is dead. Sheikh Shariff takes the money and pockets ut while inoccent country men and woman are dying.Is that the country to join.It is not.Somebody who has a common sense will never join Mogadisho because it's a dead place to go.Bread is more expensive than a life of human beings in Mogadisho.We support Israel and Israel must support us.
I WANT TO GIVE PIECE OF ADVICE TO SOMALILAND YOUTH . LET ME TELL YOU ONE THING TO BE FRIEND WITH ISRAEL OR ARABS WILL NOT BE BENEFITED BY OUR COUNTRY.
Somaliland NEEDS ITS YOUTH TO STAND UP STRONG AND FIRM . IF YOU LIKE SOMALILAND TO PROGRESS DO ONLY THREE THINGS :
1. EDUCATE YOURSLVES.
2. WORK HARD .
3 DO NOT EMMIGRATE.
Somalilanders wake up ! Why should i honour some one who is against my existence?
In the last 20 years NONE of the Arab or Muslim world accepted somaliland as a free independet nation.
Simply DEMOCRACY is ´not wanted in thier region. How ever some Arab and Muslim countries maintain a very good relationship with Israel. Why shouldn`t i ?.
I personaly wellcome with open hands the republic of Israel and its offer to recognize Somaliland as an Independent Nation with a perminent seat in United Nation.
My proposal is: Somalilanders particularly President Siilaanyo and his goverment must change their attitude toword Israel. World policy became global and somalilanders must fellow the wind direction.
Mr. Yigal Palmors offer is a golden chance for somalilanders to come out of their isolation and a new chapter to devolop a nation with prosperity and progress.
if somaliland agree watch what Allah will do to the country!
A lot of the people that are supporting israel are very very selfish to the core. It is evident from their comments that are basically saying ''anything for recognition and anything for Economy''.
How does one accept to *support* a so-called country that STOLE the lands from a people that was living in peace and to this day are being raped,tortured and killed. To this day. We as somalilanders know how it feels to be treated with Discrimination and to suffer under a rule.
But israel is a thousand times worst than the previous Somalis government.
israel is a Racist entity, it hates the native Arabs of the land (Palestinans) and a lot of blacks who are jews are discriminated against. Hell, they discriminate against the Eastern jews(from Arab countries,the original jews) and put European Jews on top.
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What Muslim, would accept such humiliation? We should be a beacon of light that HELPS the OPPRESSED not the OPPRESSOR.
What will we say when we look back at History and see who we supported, the Criminal against a Weak people?I would then be ashamed to say I am a somalilander! This is totally Haram. Even if the Palestinians were Non-Muslim we should still not Kill them indirectly by supporting their Murderer.
Use your brains, not your stomach people. Don't be selfish,just beacuse others were selfish, like the Arabs. We are supposed to be refined people blessed with Wisdom and Compassion.
Many jews themselves are against the so-called zionist stae of israel and are not supporting it, so are we to come and cheer on supporting them for a few dollars which will last for a short-term?
Also, that zionist state hates something called ''Muslim'' and ''Islam''. Check out Memri -tv , a translating company owned by American jews that attacks Islam by distorting its Image in the West!. And FOX news channel?They own it! . It spreads Islamophobia and fear of Muslims to the general public.
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Israel has an old history and most of the prophets came from prophet Yaqub/Jacob known as Israel(as). Anyone who curses Israel/prophet Yaqub is sinning basically. Common reason is that there are special families whose lineage come from most prophets that hail from the Land of Israel. Please read about Interfaith and the common wisdom of the Abrahamic Wisdom.
The nation of Philistine were Arabised and they used to fight with Israel from ancient times history never changes. They are the same people whom prophet Daud/David(as) fought with and until today they are still fighting with the people of Jacob/Israel(as). Just like how Somaliland is fighting with Somalis who will never rest until they wipe Somaliladn of the map of the Africa. There are people out there who don't want peace no matter how much you offer them they don't want certain nations exist.
Why should Israel be denied their lands where their own fathers who were prophets lived and ruled. If Somaliland have ties with Israel we are honouring the legacy of our great Heritage which is the Heritage of Abraham(as). Speaking of common sense no one who curses the children of Abraham(as) would get any blessings that is why until today Somaliland and Israel have common history. They are both fighting wars on their own and if these two nations become friends I'm sure good would come out of it. Somaliland is in an Africa and a muslim nation and their wisdom is highly needed to settle the Middle East Crisis. Somaliland is a noble nation and knows the true spirit of freedom and liberty.
Somalia is getting more chaotic by the day and they don't see how they are slowly destroying their souls from Islamic point of view. It is just as worse that the Internaitonal Community is helping towards this.
To end the post Israel has a moral duty to support Somaliland since both nations have a common heritage regardless of how the rest of the Arab nations see that especially at time when their dictators are breaking down one after the other. Somaliland and Israel are both clever nations that can help each other and help Africa heal from poverty and diseases. Africa has been subjected to destitution and their dignity has been violated. Why Somaliland a noble nation beg the Arab nations for anything that is totally immoral and wrong.
I do not blame the Arabs for not recognising us(we are a new nation) because frankly, the Southerners are MORE than us in NUMBER. They have more voice and were accepted as a country before us,it was an Isaaq man who put Somalia in the Arab League.They are thinking about ''Helping'' their Fellow 'Arab' Nation: Somalia.
Put yourselves in the shoes of the so-called Arab leaders, what would you do if your friend and neighbour country would split up, would you interfere and help the splitting or act loyal?? Of course you would act loyal. We need to LOBBY MORE to these countries and show them that Somalia is hopeless, and that they are just sticking to a corpse that bites the head of anyone that interferes with internal affairs i.e. somaliland secession etc.
Seriously most of your reasoning are pure emotion-based rantings. Some of you are trying to get revenge from those Arabs, because of this recognition business, when recognition will come when Allah willls.It will come when its Time.
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I have never seen a more Impatient people than Somalis. We can survive without recognition now like Taiwan. It just takes time. In the mean time, it is good for us as the corruption levels are very low and Government Officials cannot steal as much as would happen because of low national budget. So all in time ,we should be building more and begging less. Do more Good works.You see, we are not as poor as other nations, we should try ast as good Muslims and help thosr worse off as we have a lot of mashAllah smart young men and women,and that will bring more barakah to Somaliland. The hand that gives is BETTER than the hand that Takes.
And I remind you and me of the noble verse: ''O ye who believe! persevere in patience and constancy: vie in such perseverance; strengthen each other; and fear Allah; so you may prosper.'' [Surah Al 'Imran, Noble Quran]
And: ''Not so do those who show patience and constancy, and work righteousness; for them is forgiveness (of sins) and a great reward.'' [Surah Hud, Noble Quran]
Finally, may Allah Protect Somaliland and its people, and guide us to do good and what He loves Best :D
we dont need this regime
Does anyone honestly think this recognition is innocent? The fact that Israel, the U.S puppet and slave in the Mid-East, who can't even recognize the indigenous Palestinians, who starts wars with all of it's neighboring countries and is a big enemy to all peace-loving countries in the East, wants the best for a MUSLIM AFRICAN COUNTRY?
Remember the "Divide and Conquer" rule. Never has Israel "helped" for the sake of helping. There is always something the West and it's allies want from the East.
I'm glad most of the Somalianders are smart enough to realize this.
Look at Peter's comment above. lol I doubt he ever heard of "Somaland" before. Of course he'll love to encourage the separation of a Muslim country. Much easier to influence,eh ;)
Somaliland and its political elite should deeply look into the overall interest of the country and the people. We may think that as Somalilanders that we have some sort of link (be it tribal, religious or otherwise) to the Arabs, but to them, we are merely some people they can manupilate. Let us remember that the ARAB does not care about his/her brethren, let alone us, who by the way are not Arabs. I would love to see Somaliland seek recognition from Israel, as I see the advantages to that symbiotic relationship.
Freedom and respect of human dignity is my religion. The rights of palestinains and the rights of israelis are equal to my own rights.
None of those arab muslimhood respected or recognized the legal rights of my nation (somaliland). Instead they enjoy a better relationship with the state of israel and they deny my existence as a nation. ( why should i care?).
I do support the rights of mankind (plastinians and many others as well) but there is no law that prohebits me to deal with my fellow human (israel etc).
In islam it says ( you can make a deal or commerce with erveryone).
Somalilanders must be aware of their interest without doing any damage.
AU SAYS NO US SAYS NO 20YEARS THE WORLD SAY NO RECOGNITION 20YEARS AFTER STILL SOMLILAND IS ISOLATED NO COUNTRY CAN SIGN BILATERAL AGREEMENT GDB 80MILLON$ YOU MUST TELL THE WORLD THE REASON YOU WENT TO BE AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY ARE YOU ISOLATED IN TERMS OF RELIGION YOUR ETHNICITY SOMALLAND DO NOT HAVE OIL RIVERS INDUSTRY ROADS ONLY THERE ARE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT ROADS WE HAVE NEVER SEEN KILOMETER OF ROAD BUILD BY SOMALILAND GOVERNMENT
watch where somaliland will end up if u get too close to israel they dont care somaliland these people are evil they infect mongos and orange with hiv they stole body parts from poor haitans pretending to helping them
they see non jews as their slaves they are so recist against black people have u seen how they treat falasha people imaging what they will do to u black and muslim u think they care about somaliland all they care is their intrest they will not only use u but abuse u 2 no israel no israel
You All have spoken your emotions. Prior to answering the following questions Please give a great of of thought.
1- Is the Conflict with Israel one of Muslim Vs Jewish or Arab Vs Jewish in nature?
2- For those who profess to hate Israel, What has Israel done to you Somalilanders or Somalis in general that makes you HATE them?
3- Does the Quran and Sunnah clearly state to Hate Israel or Jews?
4- Are Somalis Arabs?
Thanks.
NOMAD SOS: The smartest person to comment on this article, the rest of you idiots welcoming ties with Israel are disgusting, do you know what the ZIONIST state of Israel is doing to our brothers and sisters in Palestine every single day and you people think it's right that Somaliland gives them a warm welcome :o for the comments saying what has the Arab world done for Somali people…bought the religion of Islam for one what more could you ask for..if your talking more recent..the children of Gaza (whose oppressor your so happy to welcome) raised $17,000 for the SOMALI children dying from starvation. How much did you donate/give (even tho your Somali and aren't under seige and have a hell of a lot more opportunity to donate more) don't take the time to write a comment and say you speak for the majority of the Somaliland community when you say we welcome Israel…How can you say that and then say the shahada or stand before Allah in prayer…the hypocrisy is disgusting..what are these people you are welcoming doing to the fellow belivers..our brothers and sisters…the muslim ummah are a brotherhood…any muslim regardless of race in the eyes of our creator is as much a brother to you as the child of your mother is to the eyes of society…how dare you then welcome their oppressors…as Somali people our name is only worth something if we stand shoulder to shoulder with our muslim brothers and sisters whether it be in Palestine, in Kashmir or any other muslim country…not even just muslim country…we should free and campaign for the freedom of anyone oppressed as the prophet (pbuh) freed/fought for the slaves and anyone not willing to do so should re-look at their morals…How can you complain about Siyad Barre and welcome Israel..slap your self…I would hate to be you on yomal qiyamah where is your sense…how can money be more important to you than your brother or sister…and you want to speak as a representation of Somali people..if I wasn't Somali I would be beyond disgusted at the Somali people if these comments were all I had to know of them uff you people are shameful….LONG LIVE PALESTINE, LONG LIVE GAZA and I stand in solidarity LONG LIVE SOMALILAND! We don't need Israel…Somaliland should fight for the freedom of Palestine and Kashmir and its fellow brothers and sisters…not get in the same bed as their oppressors I pray Allah forgives you for even contemplating such foolishness..as for 'the Arab's have ties with Israel why can't we' if the Arabs all jumped off a cliff would you?!? Arabs have done nothing for Palestine..neither has the rest of the world including Somaliland other than side with its oppressor..Somaliland seemed free of that until now…I pray Allah forgives all of us..what he has to watch his people go through with his "other" people watching infact siding with the wrongdoers…There was a young girl gang raped by soldiers and rather than a swift death they set her a light merely to hide evidence..because she was Palestinian, a group of young children who had to live in the same house as the bodies of their dead family members becuase they we're not allowed to leave the house by the Israeli army for 4 days…this is not even the tip of the ice berg or a day in Gaza and you people want to support this…dont represent for Somaliland…I'd worry about your right to call yourself a muslim too if thats your stance..remember who your brother is