Published On: Mon, Mar 12th, 2012

Dahabshil Group vs. Sahel Communities

OPINION | March 13, 2012
By:Ali Mohamed

Last week, a group of elders representing the Sahel Communities ( Dan iyoDuco) raised objection the permit for Dahabshil to build a new cement plant from scratch right next to the ruins of old Berbera cement factory.

As I watched the video of the gathering of the elderly, the Sahel communities concerns about the new cement plant permit were: residents including their own elected local officials were completely cut-out the decision making process regarding the permit for the construction of the plant. The environmental and safety issues that could affect the well-being and the quality of life of the citizens and children in the region were not addressed. However, the most contentious of all was a permit that former Riyaale administration issued to a local group to rebuild the old factory if it is feasible or to build a new one.

Building a cement plant is not easy venture. It is a capital-intensive business, which needs huge investment. Companies with access to a cheaper finance know how technology to make better cement more cheaply and using less power, and the experience to avoid environmental disasters, would have advantages in cement trade.

For example, a typical cement plant with production capacity of 1.2 million tonne/yr, might cost around $250-350 million, to build from scratch, plus unseen budget contingencies and additional cost overruns. Although refurbished plant is much cheaper, it is not as efficient as a new one.

In addition, the builder should have to own property that could support the size of a cement plant and the mill, and should have access or own limestone quarry and other raw materials such as Silica, and mineral rights to produce the primary aggregate needed for the cement.

Up to now, what the Dahabshil group got is only a presidential decree and a letter from a rogue government minister, granting them a permit to build a new cement plant.

Undoubtedly, Somaliland needs investment, growth, development, and jobs; however, awarding Dahabshil a license to build a cement factory is not to going create jobs or entice investment. Because it would only give Dahabshil the rights to claim the sole ownership of the raw materials and the minerals that are essential to produce cement– and then look for a foreign investor as joint venture, maybe in China—for capital and machinery, to build the physical plant to produce anything, and sell it as a cement. There is a possibility this could happen, and we must stop, before it is too late

With global recession, as well as slow demand of cement in Somaliland, I thought Cement trade is not a profitable business venture. Nevertheless, the Dahabshil group think cement a valuable commodity for wrong reasons. The total cement consumption for the whole Somaliland/Somalia was around 200,000.00 tonne for the last year. The average price of cement is around $85.00/tonne. For example, according to the suppliers of cement, it cost $20 a tonne to ship from Berbera to Hargeysa, a total distance of 180 km.

I do not think Somaliland could accommodate two cement factories in 10-km2 area. I really do not understand why Somaliland leaders are silent about this dispute.

Just because Dahabshil group contributed financially to the presidential campaign of President Silanyo do not entitle them to be granted a very complex project such as building a new cement plant from scratch, with out making sure that Dahabshil group have enough equity to undertake the construction of the plant. We would like to know–how much taxes Dahabshill paid for the last 5 years .The consent of Somaliland people, especially Sahel communities, should also be taken into consideration.

Sahel communities are simply asking for: transparency, accountability, and what is the best interest for Somaliland? We should debate openly this important issue, which affect the health and safety of their people. They have rights to demand that.

If Somaliland were a country based on the rule of the law, the Sahel communities and their lawyers would have petitioned to a court of law in Berbera, to block the presidential order or decree granting Dahabshil for the permit. The case would have been called Dahabshil group vs. Sahel communities. A judge would have decided the case.

However, in reality, that is not the situation in Somaliland, the president and his rogue and corrupt ministers are lobbying hard for Dahabshil, and would do whatever it takes Dahabshil to prevail at the expense of Sahel communities.

The Sahel Communities have demonstrated how a united group of people could protect their own environment and natural resources, when their own government sided with special interest groups. If Dahabshill, which has no experience, resources, or idea, what it takes to build a cement plant, is not voluntarily withdrawn his plan to acquire the natural resources of Somaliland. The only course of action is the president to either rescind his presidential decree or stop any permit issued by his ministers for the benefit of Dahabshil.

I would advise Dahabshil to concentrate his tax-free core businesses —the money transfer and telecom; to finish the half-built five-story building— that was erected seven years ago, on the grounds of the former Headquarters of Somaliland police force; and to leave people’s natural resources for the development of Somaliland.

Ultimately, Somaliland has abundant resources to produce a good quality Portland cement, which could become our way of connecting global cement industry. Our President must put the interest of the nation ahead of that 1% of us, who are fighting controlling whatever chance to make money. We need smart and visionary leaders who are able to bring into our country global multinational companies such as France’s Lafarge, with technology and the finance to build environmentally friendly cement plant, which is willing joint venture with a public owned Somaliland cement corporation. I believe private and public partnership is the best way to develop our cement industry. In addition, Somaliland people and their elders would expect our elected leader to the do the right thing.

Allah may bless Somaliland
Long live Somaliland

Ali Mohamed
Co-founder
Growth and development club of Somaliland
Lewis Center, Ohio
aliadm@aol.com

About the Author

- Mohamed Ibrahim Guled is the CEO, owner and chief editor of SomalilandPress

  • ComeAgain

    Glad that the local people are standing up, I hope the government steps in to find a middle ground for both of them.

  • awil

    Dear Dahabsheel.
    We the people of sanaag are more willing to invite you to build the cement factory in Mayh area, which has got the same raw materials that are necessary for making cement. There are hills and hills of raw material near the Maydh. The transportation of your end products will not confront any obstacles. To sanaag people your project will be a blessing. Forget Berbera and don't waste your time begging ……….. people.

  • Liban

    Well written article and straight to the point.

    • Ali

      Liban,

      You must be another bloody sick soul.

  • osman

    The so called community of elders are nothing more than a well connected brokers in the previous government who want a profit without investing a dime in the project.This community need jobs not brokers, who ever have the means needs to build this factory. I feel sorry for the editor to be patronizing this thugs and call them community leaders. These community leaders cannot build two rooms let alone Cement Factory. As for the government, they need to come with transparency and a proper vetting system

    • Ahmed

      Dear Osman

      I advice you to study the dimensions of the issue.
      We already have a cement plant in Berbera that is of high standard and can be restarted in 1 year
      why build a new one that will take 5 years and will have no market to export to, all the nations around us
      have built many plants in the past 3/4 years

      At present Pakistan cement is being dumped in east africa due to export subsidy 35%.

      we should encourage the investment in coal also which is required for cement to reduce the cost of production

      Dahabshiil group has been offered a share in that, like all Of SOMALILAND.

      The consumption of cement in s/l 400mt/day can already bu satisfied by the old plat when re-started

  • Dhugtame

    I can not stop laughing, even those we call educated are more ignorant than the average geel jire in Dubur. The author must understand no matter how good he sex-up his opinion, he will not be able convince most people, because it is obvious his argument boils down to one thing; my clan owns the all the mountains in Saaxil. That notion was repeatedly rejected by Somalilanders.

    Saxiil is not inhabited by only one clan, it belongs to Somaliland and Somaliland is open for both international and local investments. Dahabshiil is a Somalilander and he has the right to invest his money anywhere in Somaliland, not only that but he contributes money to development projects in Somaliland more than any other Somaliland company.

  • Abdi1234

    To the author,

    This morally out of order, you lost my respect.

  • hassna

    Natural resources are owned by government in all developed nations. Companies that exploit these natural resources pay a lot of money to these governments. cement factories built at Mombasa and Tanga towns on coast of Kenya and Tanzania respectively have destroyed the health of the people living there. An environmentally friendly cement plant is needed for Berbera otherwise this town and the nearby villages will end up as ghost places on the coast of Somaliland!

  • Jamal

    Author,

    This is the lowest of lowest level of bigotry one can descend to.

  • inayuusuf

    The author is totally biased and clan-minded to say the least. First of all those opposing to erecting the cement plant are not representative of all Sahil communities. They represent a sub-clan and yet don’t have the well being of the very sub-clan in mind. In short they are Koofyad-Baclayaal with a vested interest who unfairly and immorally mobilize tribesmen.
    Those poor tribesmen are unwittingly used for ulterior motives while their communities are in a bad need for such a factory which is expected to bring their chronic unemployment to an end.
    The “former Riyale administration issued [license] to a local group to rebuild the old factory if it is feasible” because they neither have the knowledge nor the means to do so. Yet Riyale and his ministers escaped author’s bite. No problem! He is entitled not to be a politician and thus keep away from political reproaches that our nation is plagued with. Wait… but why he attacks the current Government for issuing a license to Dahabshil who is capable?
    Contd….

  • inayuusuf

    ….Contd
    By saying “… what the Dahabshil group got is only a presidential decree and a letter from … government minister, granting them a permit to build a new cement plant”, you are implying the Government (represented, in the first place, by the incumbent President) don’t own, is not entitled for, and has no right to issue licenses to exploit, county’s resources. What a fallacy and backwardness!

    Also you are misleading the readers by saying the license “would only give Dahabshil the right to claim the sole ownership of the raw materials and the minerals that are essential to produce cement”. Stop man the government gave Dahabshil license to build and operate the plant (of course at profit) but not to own the resources. That is what the government would have done with any foreign investor. Why you (and others) are upset when issued to a Somalilander? Vested interest and clannish mindedness are the culprits!
    contd….

    • Jambazi

      Dhigshil is a leech who want suck blood from people of Somaliland.

      • muxsin

        What it’s wrong dahashiil The man starts
        Nothing 28 years ago,he did not steal Any money from any one,so take your little mind That you have somewhere else
        The man help him self his community as Well,The only two genuine xawaala are Dhabshiil & amal.

  • inayuusuf

    ….Contd

    The double licensing is caused by your group having got previous license to sell to potential investors. And they had already sold to foreign brokers for tens of millions of USDs. This resulted in the old-plant-site being overpriced with no single investor accepting it for investment. i.e. not only those koofyad-Baclayaal are demanding an unfair share in any potential plant but the foreign brokers are asking for their millions back.
    Then who’s corrupted Mr. Author?

    • Jambazi

      Dhigshil is taking advantage of his uncle being president, that is why he selfishly want for himself resources belonging to all Somalilanders. And his uncle as the president is favouring his relatives and is not treating all Somalilanders equally. Such favouratism is what led to the demise of former somalia. Dhigshil is the new ina xoosh of Somaliland.

  • Mohamed

    Dear writer, I wonder who are you writing to and for? who are youre readers?
    We are no longer at the time where information is a manopoly. If the first licence was worth given to those who could make it work they would have. But it seems that our clans (head of the clans) fera they would be left behind with noincome. Among the tribes of Somaliland the one objecting has put itself in shame, we know what was the demand for Dahbshiil permit be allowed by the locals.

    For an educated man like you youshould have approched the locals aqbout tyhe benefit it will bring to the comunity.
    In regrard of the cement, export is a big market, the demand in KSA is huge rebuilding in many countries in the Middleeast is huge, India and China.
    Please to all writers remamber you are writing to people with brain.

  • Hargeisawi

    this goverment shouldn't be in the bsiness of deciding who should get a permit and who shouldn't. Let the free markets decide and where there is competition for tax-payer owned resources let it go to the highest bidder. reer hebel iyo habar baa dhuustey bay kugu wareerinayaan ..money talks BS walks

    • Abraham

      Could not agree with you more.

  • misslovely

    i agree with awil we don't want another habar habar kkkkkkkkkkkkaftan inadeertimo

    • Jambazi

      If presidentsilanyo continues to favour his relatives and his cronies, the habar-habar fighting will come back. It is as if this president is elected by his clan only and he is there for them only.

  • Abraham

    The author is contradicting himself. On one hand he condemns Dahabshiil for its intentions to enter into a mutually beneficial partnership with a Chinese company to invest in the factory, and on the other hand he is more than happy to invite the French company called Lafarge to take control of the entire cement plant. If the author is not against a French company investing in Somaliland, he is probably not against a Chinese one too. So the only reason the author is opposed to the Dahabshiil-Chinese partnership is because he does not want Dahabshiil to have any stake in this venture. But why is the author against a fellow Somalilander investing in our country?

  • Farrid

    The problem and the whole problem is not what all you, including the author, is talking.
    The core problem is the lack of geniune laws regulating such industries and the likes. Another problem is that our elected parliment, who are supposed to set such laws, are usless individuals who either do not care or do not know their main job. Such problems and more will frequently arise unless our parlimentarians come to sense and do their job in setting laws the country and people needed most.
    Farid

    • Farhaan Faarah

      Stop Diigshiil or there will be another civil war.

      • inayuusuf

        Farhaan Faarah
        Leave true Somalilanders deal with their issues. Whatever we say here doesn't mean that we forgot our main cause. Whenever our national interest is being jeopardized we will magically unite behind our leader at the time. Have you seen how we acted when Kastuumo vapor came into being. Go and beg Sharif once more for vague recognition.

        • hassan jabhad

          @inayuusuf

          Put in your mind khaatumo never ask any Recognition what so ever TFG This was Propaganda,The whole issue behind This Was TFG to use bargaining chip when Dealing s/l,khaatumo will use barrel of The gun to liberate Their territories,I Was wondering what is this all about….
          ‘HABAR VS HABAR WHERE IS THE FATHER’kkkk

  • Asha

    The author is blinded by tribalism and doesn't know what he is talking about. I haven't read such a crap all my life and I didn't knew that there were Somalilanders, who will go this cheap after all we went through in our contemporary history. I think I should stop here, this is not worth commenting.

  • Mustafe

    What's wrong with these Reer Berbera people? Do they really want to sell Cadaygii Laaleeys for the rest of their lives? If you can't build this factory yourself and stop others for doing so what is the solution? Please stop holding us (somaliland) back!

    • Jambazi

      Who said they cannot build that factory, they were on the process of commissioning the building of the factory. First, unlike dhigshil who does not care about the environment and the health of local people, the previous investors commissioneda feasibity study to study how the factory will impact on the environment and befor the conclusion of that study, dhigshill ran to his uncle to ask for permission build his own factory. The local people know the detrimental effect will cause to their life without them benefiting them. And furthermore, the local people were granted permission to built by previous administration, why now dhigshil want cause problem?

      • Naliye

        Feasibility study since 2003 :) interesting

        • ahmed

          Are you saying you have done feasabilty on cement plant

  • ibrahim

    the author is purely blinded by tribalism.

  • Ali Dheere

    The author might have a point saying that the government issuance of permit to Dahabshiil is questionable. The rest of the article is just rant.

    Somaliland badly need cement factories, and believe me, local market is hungry for cement. If, by any chance, we over produce, Ethiopia has big appetite for cement too.

  • abdi2

    There was the same uproar regarding the rehabilitation of the Port of Berbera after the Silanyo adminstration took over. Look how far Berbera has come now. Let is put an end to these nonesense and move the country forward by building factory.

  • abdi

    Congratulations to saahil community, absolutely we as the rest of somalilanders are so proud of your role of protecting our environment from pollution and cancer causing chemical factories.

    Keep in mind for any means necessary we all are your side for keeping Greedy businessmen away from our natural resources.. god bless you and god bless somaliland.

    • Barbarawie

      Full of garbage talk. You will always in poverty if you chase businesses away. Some of us just assume that Berbera is just for on clan. That is completely wrong as much as some people would like to claim. It was a place of tolerance and co-existence before the Habar Habar nuisance and it went out of the hand. Now we need to get our confidence back and seek investment for our town.

  • I Jama

    Total which a the French company given licence to maintain and manage our crude oil ended up damaging our pipe systems before it left. Something tells me the French companies claiming to want to invest in Somaliland have thus far failed due to the economic global situation where insurance isn't possible. Therefore, they left much like the US oil companies who are just holding us back. We need to go with whoever shows commitment and interest.

    Also Somalilander do adhere to law. I don't think the author should make such sweeping statements. Without seeking arbitration if in doubt.

  • Ahmed

    We should protect our environment and not fall to capilist greed

  • Ahmed

    capatalist*

  • abdi

    @dhugtame

    No answer for you,,,, next question pls

  • Ali99

    We say no to monopoly!. This project should be shared by all Somalilanders. I am sure if properly managed, many people could have benefited from it. I am not supporting any group, but it seems like this is UDUB government issued licence v Kulmiye government issued one. This whole thing has been politicised.
    May Allah guide us to the right direction.

    • Ahmed

      great comment we all need to seek the truth, and not jump to conclusions like 99% of people
      The issue at hand regarding our natural resources as Somalilanders is complexed.

      In my opinion we all should benefit from the exploitation of all natural resources.
      This resources could be a curse or a blessing depending on our people.

      Construction of cement Plant will impact our Fragile S/land in many ways.

      Jobs/environment/ Infrastaructre etc.

      Having said that All the parties involved i,e

      1) Government 2) Sahil community 3) Investors .4) Somaliland nation

      Should be involved and have financial interest.

      It is the role of our government to bring all these stakeholders together.

      Dahabshiil and Berbera Cement Group both parties are subject to these universal issues

      If they deviate from above they will never succeed what awaits this companies who are dreaming about cement profits is headache and frustration of running a cement plant.

      The cement they produce will cost more then Pakistan Cement which is 35% subsidiised, and uses
      cheaper fuel to burn the Kiln.

      Alla Mahadleh
      Ahmed

  • Cawil Sugule

    Having read the article and the comments, it is clearly evident that the proponents & opponents of this article have divergent & diametrically interesting view points. Those who support the article are concerned with environmental and health hazards that can spring up from the construction, they are also concerned with the vetting and tendering process which seems to be flawed & not transparent, they are also concerned with one subclan monopoly, that Silanyo & dahabshil hail from one subclan and is widely seen as rewarding his clansmen . Another sticking point that is raising eyebrows is the fact that the president issued a decree. Lastly they are very much worried that dahabshil can not undertake such huge project that requires $300m investment and that dahabshil is only out to get the contract & eventually hand the job to sub contractor. All these concerns are valid and genuine and should not be ignored. We need to dissect the problem and offer concrete solution. Let emotion and bitterness not carry us because our fragile national cohesion will be in jeopardy. We are all humans and we have our little failings. The opponents of this article do not see any problem with dahabshil taking the contract as long as he is a bona fide Somalilander and that Somaliland natural resources belongs to alll Landers while others are simply defending their clan. I think the best remedy would be ; free and fair tendering procedure to prevail, independent committee should be set up to oversee the conflict of interests, a team of environmental experts should be constituted inorder to assess impact of such project, Silanyo should retract the decree, should not be partisan, should not meddle in such grave issues and allow rules of natural justice to prevail.

    • ahmed

      excellent comment, the truth is truly wonderfull.

  • saaxilman

    I would like to say to all my brothers and sisters of Somali Landers ASC.

    We have a problem and we need to resolve it objectively and fairly.

    Saaxil is one of most the important both economically and strategically in Somaliland.

    Today we are facing huge political challenges that can undermine the very struggle that we value so much.

    We need to ask our self number of question before we jump to the Ciisa Muuse verses H\jeclo or dahabshiil bandwagen.

    Who was given the permission to build the plant in the first place?

    Do saaxil elders willing to share and expand the share to include Dahabshiil?

    Can Somaliland and saaxil have the capacity to sustain two cement factories?

    Was it is right minster xirsi to act such insensitively and disregard the all else, issuing precedential decree granting Dahabshiil to built plant ?

    People in saaxil are grateful for the investment and believe we will do better sharing.

    Today our president has the opportunity to resolve this problem lets hope he does so fairly and may allah help him do the right thing.

  • Dhugtame

    I understand SLpress is siding with the thugs, who are trying to extort money from those that are trying to extort money from investors in Berbera. That is the reason you took down all my comments. I just found out that you guys have different agenda other than the Somaliland agenda, which is a clan orientated one. I'm leaving you for good, so good bye big time bigots.

  • osman5

    To the author:_Sillanyo has been in office for less than 2 years and the procurement issue of the Old Berbera Cement Plant has been around for quite sometime. __Furthermore, Dahabshil is a successful businessman, he's innovatively created an empire which employs thousands of people around the globe and now he's trying to expand his business portfolio by among other venture, constructing a new Cement Factory in his beloved city of Berbera. _Would you want him to expand his future business oppurtunities in Bosaso instead or maybe in Mogadishu?_ I don't think Dahabshil would neven attempt to ask you as to how he should run his business. __Thus, let the chips fall where they may and please spare me the political rhetotics_ _It's a quite fascinating that you're trying to establish a connection between Dahabshil and Sillanyo for this particular event. Perhaps you should get your facts straigh before you'd consider posting your strong views on a public domain towards Sillanyo and Dahabshil again.__We, as Somalianders should be trying to leverage our strength collectively to reach common goals. Dividing up our society for financial gains or political scores isn't going to benefit us. ___Thanks,_Osman Qaal,_Ottawa, Canada

  • osman5

    One more thing:
    There's no such thing called Dahabshil Group Vs. Sahal Communities……there're 2 of the same..

    Osman Qaal,
    Ottawa, Canada

  • hassan

    hello every one

    i would argue every somalilander to take this issue serious and think carefully about the danger associated with throwing our lovely country (somaliland) in the hands of capitalist.

    It will be a big mistake for letting an educated and young ministers who are unfortunately ended up running our government offices(specially the presidential office) to ruin the future of our generations for centuries coming.

    Enough was said on above comments for all dangers involved berbera cement factory,, we are closely monitoring how this issue is evolving or developing.A Facebook page will be set soon and shared and invited every one of you for taking the streets of hargeisa, Berbera,Boorama,Burco,Ceerigaabo and Lasanod for demanding justice and refusing Monopoly in Somaliland.

  • Somalilander

    Dhigshil is a leech who want suck blood from people of Somaliland.

    • Jambazi

      To all whom it may concern!!!!!
      I would like to bring into the attention of all contributors in this forum, the person with the screen name "Somalilander" is an imposter and a plagiarizer. The person with the screen name "Somalilander" copied the following one sentence catch phrase "Dhigshil is a leech who want suck blood from people of Somaliland" from my post, then he pasted into his post to create the impression that posters using screen names Somalilander and Jambazi to be the same person. But this is far from the truth. First and foremost Jambazi and Somalilander are two totally different individuals. Because, as you might check and confirm that, I havent posted a lot of post and I am not an avid poster of post due to my limited time. Secondly, as I have mentioned earlier, my time is so limited and due to this paucity of time, I am not in a position to post more than 100 post within a short time span. And finally, my position against dhigshil or dahaabshill is not about his clan, to me his is irrelevant, and I havent got any grudges against that esteemed clan who are my relatives too. But, my opposition against dhigshil was ignited by dhigshil's pompous arrogance which stems from his enormous wealth and his uncle being president.

    • 4west-

      haters

  • Somalilander

    Dhigshil is a THIEF!!!!

  • Somalilander

    Dahabshiil is a leech who want suck blood from people of Somaliland.

  • Somalilander

    Dahabshiil is a leech who wants to suck blood from people of Somaliland.

  • Somalilander

    Dahabshiil is a leech who want suck blood from people of Somaliland. He is a thief who made his money from shipments of old Somali money from Mogadishu Warlords and mixing it in Somaliland for their dollars.

  • Somalilander

    They use all dirty tactics to silence people and the press so you never here anything bad about Dahabshiil but truth is they are the scum of Somaliland they try to show a good image to the people by donating a mark II here and there to people but the truth is they are as dark as they come behind closed doors. Dahabshiil will get his inshallah….what goes around comes around.

  • Somalilander

    They use all dirty tactics to silence people and the press so you never here anything bad about Dahabshiil but truth is they are the scum of Somaliland they try to show a good image to the people by donating a mark II here and there to people but the truth is they are as dark as they come behind closed doors. Dahabshiil will get his inshallah….what goes around comes around.

  • Somalilander

    You heard about Dahabshiil taking 17million USD from the government budget to get repaid from Silanyo for the elections is that what you call SERVICE they are THIEVES AND ARE TAKING YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY

  • osman5

    We shouldn't let our independent thinking be screened over by the influence of those who're seeking particular interests.

    Nothing is wrong on embarking new ventures and creating employment opportunities for the unemployed boys and girls in our major cities. Dahabshil is doing his lion's share to create jobs in his own country so calling it a monopoly is an unfair statement.

    Osman Qaal,
    Ottawa, Canada

  • Cawil Sugule

    @ Hassan i agree with you in totality. We have to stop this monopolistic trend and greed perpetuated by so called dhiigshil group. Somaliland is bigger than dhiigshil interest. We Somalilanders should shun clan driven agendas and embark on principles of fairness. Set up da facebook page as soon as you can.

  • M M Hassan

    SLpress how come you deleted Dhugtame's comment, I read the comment before you deleted and it said: "Who are the Sahil community you are talking about, please clarify?" What is wrong with this comment? He was just asking Abdi to clarify what he meant by Sahil community.

  • Dhugtame

    I am glad you left us alone, and hope you will never come back. Good bey trouble maker.

  • inayuusuf

    @ Somalilander
    How low you are? You don’t deserve the screen name you bear.

    @ the rest of the readers
    This person calling him/herself somalilander is the one calls him/herself jambazi and occasionally Omer Hussein Dualeh.
    Have you got the message?

  • I Jama

    Why is this spamming being allowed? Shame on you whoever you are for you're own monoply of the forum? Pot calling the kettle black.

  • I Jama

    Somaliland has many projects that need investment. So I don't think Dhahabshiil is stopping any one from investing in all of them. They are just Somaliland people taking a risk in their own country and we should support investors especially outstanding companies like Dahabshiil.

    And no I am not from their clan but someone who appreciates loyal committed individuals like Dahabshiil.

  • inayuusuf

    @ Farhaan Faarah
    You were Fanatic supporter for your failed Kastumo and you’re suddenly worried about SLand. I understand that your delusional Kastumo State is died. But this doesn’t automatically qualify you as a SLand advocator. From now on we will let Puntland deal with you. “Cadawgaa Cadawgii waa saaxiibkaa”. …lol.

  • Samaale

    Somalilander<————–we all get ur mess bro inchallah to the next tyme do not forgett tht ua aint nedeed 2 repet ur comments more thn once innit,,bwt refresh ur own mind cuz DHABSHIL is the name of d nigga man!,.Blessed Somaliland

  • Somalilander

    A lot of ignorant comments, but the most ignorant are the ones who are under the impression that the President and D. Shiil are from the same tribe… THEY'RE NOT!

    D. Shiil is Sanbuur while the President is Habar Jeclo. Two totally different sons of Sh. Isaac, they just happen to live in the same territory in recent history.

    Now, as a 5th descendant of the man who was one of the signatories of the first treaty with the British (1827?), I can be ignorant and claim that we are the 'Real Reer Saaxil' community as it was my particular clan that ruled the entire city at the time, but we're more enlightened than that and know very well that this land belongs to all of Somaliland, and especially not a single sub-clan who happens to be under the impression that the Berbera is theirs only because they most recently settled in its surrounding hills.

    When will my Galbeed people realise that this land called Somaliland belongs to all of us?

    Last week I went to the tomb of our forefathers in Sanaag (Sh Isac, Samaroon and even Cissa) and many other sub-clans and the people of the region welcomed us and said that the land belongs to all of us. (Not one city, but I visited at least 30 villages starting east of Berbera and going along the coast all the way to Maydh and back around).

    So what I'm trying to say is that no clan insecurities should supersede a Somalilander's right to invest in any part of the country. The hills belong to us Somalilanders and not to any particular clan.

    To the bigot who authored this article: Somaliland has moved on from this pettiness you preach and we would appreciate if you would grow up and join the future.

    Maxamuud-Aar

  • Askari Burco

    Patriot job creating my a$$ 90% employees of Dahabshiil is his own tribesmen.

  • Berri

    Simple view point of suggestion for this very important of national investment project!!

    1) The Government should take a drastically swift and deceive decision to explore and output for starting of granting license for construction of the plant immediately.

    2) To issue big volume of shares ( 5i% for government ownership portion), the 1% means for voting control power rights as authority responsible of safe guarding and preserving the country's main national mineral sources. The remaining percentage of 49% must to be distributed as public shareholding on equitable pro rata basis in order to raise substantial capital investment base on initial project conceptual design and capacity production estimated total costs.

    To adapt a strategic ally national vision regarding issuance of rigidly clear governmental degree for equitable and fair capital investment distribution policy and procedures. Then, these prolonged and national opportunity losses will be automatically solved completely for the country badly needed economic al developments leverage.

    For stopping for good, this mean less constraints and stagnation for the benefit of fast growing new generations' future and UN nationalistic backward sentiment, suspicious, monopolistic, sub clan and clannish stalemate modes.

  • Berri

    Forgotten an additional note: Of course, taking into consideration seriously and honestly frank basis discussions on the regional – location development ( Berbera) by giving reasonably enough shares of contribution rights benefits.

  • osman5

    Governments do not create jobs. Their roles should be to have an oversight for the businesses to comply the rules set out in the policies and procedures regimented by the governmental regulatory bodies. Thus, checks and balances are routinely maintained to prevent environmental disasters among other violations.

    When governments get involved in peoples lives they become socialist regimes. I wouldn't want my government to tell me which company to have shares and what not..

    Osman Qaal,
    Ottawa, canada

  • Dr. Guled

    I am usually very supportive of local businesses in Somaliland but the cement plant is both health and environmental threath. The problem with big companies like Dahabshiil is, in order to get bigger they step on the same people that made them rich so they can get bigger.
    Research worldwide shows tire burning wil have a serious impact on community health and the integrity of the surrounding environment.

    1) Dioxins are among emissions from tire-burning kiln. The World Health Organization (WHO) has recently classified the most toxic dioxins as the worst known human carcinogens (cancer causing agents). Dioxins also affect the immune system, fertility, and the unborn child.

    2) Particulates are extremely small particles that enter the lungs directly, as they are too small to be filtered out.

    3) No one can guarantee where the plume from the tower will land. Plumes from high stacks can travel considerable distances depending on wind conditions (direction and intensity).
    Studies have shown that a plume from a tall stack drops its particulates within a minimum radius of 11 miles to 47 miles from the stack. The volume of particulates can be quite large and may actually travel considerably larger distances (100's of miles) in any direction with the wind.

    4) A study conducted on illnesses related to tire burning cement plants in Texas showed a 50% to 100% increase in coughing, phlegm, sore throats, and eye irritation in people near the incinerators.

    A similar study concluded that a substantially greater incidence of larynx cancer occurred in a community within 2 km of a commercial hazardous waste incinerator.

    Double blind studies reveal that people who live within five miles of a tire burning kiln in Texas are sicker, it is that simple.

    5) cement kilns do not have the necessary reliability and safeguards to ensure complete destruction of hazardous wastes

  • Berri

    Dr. Guled

    Just a question for clarification about designated site for a new Cement Plant at Berbera.

    First execute me for brief background: I used to live where new Industrial City and residential areas with continuous rapid expansion and industrialization ever since. The industrial city is the largest industrial complex of its kind in the world and consists of petrochemical plants, refineries, fertilizer plants, steel works, industrial port and a huge number of support industries.

    It also holds the world's 1th largest petrochemical company along with other more 50 heavy and primary petroleum and petrochemical plant. Also, a home of the world's largest seawater desalination plant.

    Human habitation dates back at least 7,000 years when the people of Dilmun, almost age of Berbera city. City completed with all the industry, infrastructure, housing, shopping, educational and medical facilities required to support its present population of around one million people.

    These complex plants located same South- Direction like Berbera and were built with modern equipments and machinery, especially burning Furnaces, gas light fuel re-actors and more importantly incinerators for burring emission in order to control environmentally the "cancer causing agents".

    Yes: there were some about that time Dioxins affect the immune system, fertility, and the unborn child.

    My question: What if build semi similarly technology in cost effective way with burning Incinerators and Furnaces? If not is there any alternative technology to build this cement plant?

    • Dr. Guled

      Great question! Let me just say, that i dont have any problem with Dahabshiil. Dahabshiil as a company wants to grow bigger its not surprising at all. We need all of our Somaliland companies to be successful.
      I am not so worried about the economy in this issue. Yes, unlike other factories around the world that pay high taxes, Dahabshiil wants to eat 90% of the cake.

      But to get back to your questions. Why go back 100 years when many countrys are going green? Besides it is completely impossible to destroy all the wastes. It is also very expensive and inefficient to clean, and i dont think Dahabshiil wil do any cleaning . The alternative is municipal sewage wich is now used by every European country.

      The most important thing for the city of Berbera is the peoples health and the environmental threath.
      I think as a young country we should be more humble, and learn from other countrys mistakes and failures without jeopardizing the envormient, and the peoples health. Allah gave us the brain to think, so it would be very stupid of us to make stupid mistakes in general other countrys did before us. We have been sitting on the sidelines eager to participate watching and learning from every countrys mistakes.

      Also that, Berbera has the potential to be the most beautiful city in the world, so it would be very sad to see factorys in that city.

  • ComeAgain

    I agree with Cawil Sugule first comment!

  • Askari Burco

    I agree with brother Ali Mohamed Its true Dahabshiil or Dhigshiil are thieves and only want to exploit the poor people of Saxil. My Allah be with them.

  • Yaxya

    What, then, is ethics? Ethics is two things. First, ethics refers to well-founded standards of right and wrong that prescribe what humans ought to do, usually in terms of rights, obligations, benefits to society, fairness, or specific virtues. Ethics, for example, refers to those standards that impose the reasonable obligations to refrain from rape, stealing, murder, assault, slander, and fraud. Ethical standards also include those that enjoin virtues of honesty, compassion, and loyalty. And, ethical standards include standards relating to rights, such as the right to life, the right to freedom from injury, and the right to privacy. Such standards are adequate standards of ethics because they are supported by consistent and well-founded reasons.
    Secondly, ethics refers to the study and development of one's ethical standards. The feelings, laws, and social norms can deviate from what is ethical. So it is necessary to constantly examine one's standards to ensure that they are reasonable and well-founded. Ethics also means, the continuous effort of studying our own moral beliefs and our moral conduct, and striving to ensure that we, and the institutions we help to shape, live up to standards that are reasonable and solidly-based.What, then, is ethics? Ethics is two things. First, ethics refers to well-founded standards of right and wrong that prescribe what humans ought to do, usually in terms of rights, obligations, benefits to society, fairness, or specific virtues. Ethics, for example, refers to those standards that impose the reasonable obligations to refrain from rape, stealing, murder, assault, slander, and fraud. Ethical standards also include those that enjoin virtues of honesty, compassion, and loyalty. And, ethical standards include standards relating to rights, such as the right to life, the right to freedom from injury, and the right to privacy. Such standards are adequate standards of ethics because they are supported by consistent and well-founded reasons.
    Secondly, ethics refers to the study and development of one's ethical standards. As mentioned above, feelings, laws, and social norms can deviate from what is ethical. So it is necessary to constantly examine one's standards to ensure that they are reasonable and well-founded. Ethics also means, the continuous effort of studying our own moral beliefs and our moral conduct, and striving to ensure that we, and the institutions we help to shape, live up to standards that are reasonable and solidly-based. Whether or not the administration has well- managed or mismanaged is the one million dollar question!

  • Suad Muse

    So true Dahabshiil is so bad they want to steal everything they let people believe they are good but they are worst of the worst

  • abdi

    i think greedy will kill dhiigshiil

  • Yaxye

    @0 

    Is the  government's management of   the Berbera cement dispute ethical?

    Citizens of Somaliland, have differing  about the answer to the above question. Some opine that the government so far has managed the matter logically & ethically, others see the opposite.   Then, what is Ethics?

    Ethics  is two things. First, ethics refers to well-founded standards of right and wrong that prescribe what humans & democratically governments ought to do, usually in terms of rights, obligations, benefits to society, fairness, or specific virtues. Ethics, for example, refers to those standards that impose the reasonable obligations to refrain from nepotism, stealing, corruption, murder, assault, slander, and fraud. Ethical standards also include those that enjoin virtues of honesty, compassion, and loyalty. And, ethical standards include standards relating to rights, such as the right to life, the right  to freedom of choice, the right of communities to exploit, invest, develop & own resources in their land,   the right  to freedom from injury, the right to equal justices, and the right to privacy. Such standards are adequate standards of ethics because they are supported by consistent and well-founded reasons. 

    Secondly, ethics refers to the study and development of one's ethical standards. The feelings, laws, and social norms can deviate from what is ethical. So it is necessary to constantly examine one's standards to ensure that they are reasonable and well-founded. Ethics also means, the continuous effort of studying our own & our government's  moral beliefs and our moral conduct, and striving to ensure that we, and the institutions we help to shape, live up to standards that are reasonable and solidly-based apply.
     

    Now, applying  the foregoing standards of ethics,  did the government of Somaliland:  a) treated the founders of the Berbera Cement Factory & their right to use the license given to by the previous President? And b) in issuing a license in favor of Dhahabshill to build a new  cement plant in Berbera?
    These are the one million dollar questions.!

    .

  • Salaah Ahmed
  • Dr. Guled

    Berri

    Great question! Let me just say, that i dont have any problem with Dahabshiil. Dahabshiil as a company wants to grow bigger its not surprising at all. We need all of our Somaliland companies to be successful.
    I am not so worried about the economy in this issue. Yes, unlike other factories around the world that pay high taxes, Dahabshiil wants to eat 90% of the cake.

    But to get back to your questions. Why go back 100 years when many countrys are going green? Besides it is completely impossible to destroy all the wastes. It is also very expensive and inefficient to clean, and i dont think Dahabshiil wil do any cleaning . The alternative is municipal sewage wich is now used by every European country.

    The most important thing for the city of Berbera is the peoples health and the environmental threath.
    I think as a young country we should be more humble, and learn from other countrys mistakes and failures without jeopardizing the envormient, and the peoples health. Allah gave us the brain to think, so it would be very stupid of us to make stupid mistakes in general other countrys did before us. We have been sitting on the sidelines eager to participate watching and learning from every countrys mistakes.

    Also that, Berbera has the potential to be the most beautiful city in the world, so it would be very sad to see factorys in that city.

  • Salaah Ahmed
  • 4west-

    what happen my comments

  • 4west-

    who do u use to send some dollars after u do ur cleaning job @ Tesco bro

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